Mourners remember detective killed in line of duty

Angelak, Have you been keeping up with all of this... They recovered marijuana from the house... and how do you know he was sleeping... Were you there... As posted previously if you don't know the facts and can't keep up with what was already told by the media, not that they're right half the time, you probably shouldn't waste your time commenting... Try to keep up please!

can buy a badge and a helmet with police printed on it. Anybody can stand at your door and shout "police". It doesn't mean they are the police. And at 8:30 in the middle of January, it might as well be the middle of the night. The guy wasn't a convicted killer or child molester. He doesn't even have a felony. Just your every day average joe that may smoke a little in the privacy of his own home. No different than you 40,50, 60 or older people that come home from work and pop the top on a can of beer or pour yourselves a bourbon. But because the people with the guns have you told you all your pathetic lives that marijuana is bad, well then it must be bad. We need to bust peoples doors down and stop this outrageous bunch of lawbreakers. Sheep! I guess as long as you wear a badge and a gun, you live at the foot of the cross and can do no wrong.

In regards to weed not being such a big deal, well, I have seem first hand what it can do to people that smoke it. It affect everyone different - some people just mellow out and go to sleep, others get all hype and some others need it to give them the extra boost of confidence. I can tell you that weed is just as addictive then Heroin or crack; drug dealers make just as much money of it and most smalltime dealers start out in weed and then step up to the bigger drugs. So, would you like for this man to be selling weed to your kids? Get them addicted to it to just ending up letting them use bigger and badder drugs?
Hopefully we will all find out the whole truth. In the meantime you have two mothers mourning the loss of their son - one lost forever and the other locked up. To me that is the part that we all need to remember, two lives lost.

Are we all on the same page here? Are we all reading and watching the same news? When I watched the suspect on TV last night, it turned my stomach. Now to read the comments made to my question, makes me hope I don't live in the same area those people live in. As one of the other commentors stated, the police was wearing body armour clearly stating who they were; they anounced themselves and did what we ask from them...simply to do their job and to protect us. The guy was in his house at 830pm, not the middle of the night, downstairs, with the bedrooms being upstairs, stating he thought someone was breaking into his house, like someone did the previous week across the street, not his house but across the street. So, maybe he was high and did not hear anything and just reacted the wrong way. But if he thought someone was breaking in, why didn't he call 911 instead of grabbing his gun? Did he have is gun laying on his chest or by his side, so that he was able to shoot as soon as the police officers entered the building? Yes, according to all of the reports, he shot as soon as the door flew open. There are a lot of unanswered questions and only time will reveal the truth. Hopefully eve

First I would like to extend my condolences to the Family and Friends. My thoughts and prayers go out to you all. I work near the church where this service was being held. Standing outside watching the procession go down the street myself and co-workers couldn't help but to shed some tears. It's a very sad thing that has happened.
Second to everyone who is posting negative comments about this officer please be mindful his family and friends will be reading this and they have just lost a loved one. Everyone has the right to express their opinions just be mindful of how you go about doing so.
Thirdly unless you were there that night you have no idea what went on. The officer is not here to give his testimony of what happened. I'm sure the facts will come out however I find it very unlikely we will know the full story until the trial of this young man.
Keep in mind just because there is no record on this guy doesn't mean he wasn't doing anything wrong... he may just have never been caught.
Lastly I would like to thank those who do these thankless jobs every day to protect the people.

This man is still innocent until proven guilty. YOU would do well to remember that. Let's say that someone ''informed'' the police about you having a marijuana farm in your garage. Would that be true? You should save your radical judgements for the legal system. Rational thinking citizens would not be asking for Capitol Punishment based on very little evidence thus far. You don't know more than anyone else. At this point he has NOT been charged with narcotics possession, nor have they reported finding any....not that it matters. Having pot does not justify the police raid the way they handled it. They lost one of their own so obviously that is a bad plan. It isn't necessarily the shooters fault. There is a better way. We as citizens have the right to defend our homes. Maybe it was poor planning. Maybe it was too much adrenaline, not enough procedure...or maybe the procedures are faulty. Maybe the guy is a raving lunatic that shot a cop when they broke his door down. It still doesn't mean he is wrong. He was sleeping. He was startled, and most likely didn't hear the cops (if he is innocent.) The point is, take all of this in stride, absorb the facts as they come.

what happened. It is an ongoing investigation. According to the latest info in the paper, the police did announce and then knock in the door, wearing body armor and helmets with POLICE in big letters. They have not filed what they have found from the search yet, so you don't know if they found drugs or not. And I find it hard to believe that someone in a bedroom, could grab a gun, get out of the bedroom and into the area of the front door to shoot someone BEFORE the door was busted in. And watching this man on TV, his crying is phony, not one tear in all of his act. And lets not forget, unless the law has been changed, if someone breaks into your house, you have to retreat to an area furthest from the point of entry. Then if the person comes in there, and pay attention, THREATENS YOU, you can shoot him. You do not blindly just start shooting at any noise. And as far as "pot" not being worth it...if he was growing, how much could he produce in a garage annually? So, lets not second guess, unless you're going to second guess the suspect as well.

please read the other article. The police were in armor, labeled "POLICE" with badges showing. They were also wearing helmets, hardly plain clothes. They announced themselves prior to entering, and it happened at 8:30 PM, not in the middle of night.

For those "Monday Morning Quarterbacks", Chesapeake is accepting applications for new police recruits. Why don't you all apply, then you can see first hand what a cop's job is like. If you don't want to give your 9-5 Monday through Friday, higher paying job, try a ride-a-long or a citizen's police academy.

From a cop's wife point of view with 3 children myself, a husband and father are lost because he was simply doing his job, making a living doing what he loved to make a difference in the world and support his family. For those of you who have no idea what it is like to be in a situation like this, it is awfully bold to make such strong statements. Let's just all calm down and pray for Nicole and his 3 children who are suffering and have a long road ahead of them.

You really think first degree murder is not enough? Have you paid attention to the information released on this case at all? The defendant thought his home was being broken into a couple days prior to the actual police break-in. The police approached his home in plain clothes, did not announce themselves, and busted down the door, in the middle of the night, without probable cause. When they busted in his door, he did what any law abiding citizen with a firearm would do, he shot. They did not find any drugs, and even if they did, marijuana is no excuse for busting in the door of someone with no previous record. The police department made an extremely foolish decision on this and it cost an officer his life.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the fallen officer. But there are ALOT of unanswered questions in this case. We cannot judge and prosecute souly on how we feel. and i am glad and thankful to see there are allot of free thinking people who are not media brainwashed in this area who are standing up for their beliefs. I pray that all the real truths will come to light in the case, and the proper actions will be taken.

bottom line - i pray for the men/women in blue that protect each and everyone of us and i pray most for the family who recently received a loss.. Your all in my thoughts and hope they get through this.. To know their husband/father/son died protecting them and their neighbors is a very honorable thing and they should be proud he did what did- sad and stinks but he died in the line of duty and we all should commence him!

I have read some of the sensitive and insensitive comments. First and foremost, I would like to say that I send my prayers out to the Shivers family and friends. I have several friends that are police officers and detectives, so I know how scarey it is to be associated with people who may not be here the next day considering what their jobs detail. I do agree with some of the comments posted as to figuring out a better way to handle certain situations as a police officer. Even though Mr. Shivers was doing his job, he too, had no idea what was on the other side of that door. I would have reacted the same way if I thought my house was being broken in to considering I have children to protect. In this particular case, that unidentified person happened to be a police officer. From the evidence so far, there is nothing to back up the reason for the warrant. Therefore, this could have been a case of he said, she said, and now a man has died because of this. There has to be a better way of saving lives and doing your job other than breaking down doors unidentified and taking the chance of being assumed you are a burglar. And let's say this officer was in fact a robber and the resident did

Seriously people.. Police Officers serve the community and that includes the citizens that reside within that community. This officer did his job and duty as an officer to protect everyone from the individual whom residing within that household. They got a tip from someone who obviously knew what he was talking about so in this, they got a warrant from the magistrate with probable cause upon the warrant, allowing her to issue the warrant, and went to house to serve the warrant. They only need to annouce their presence before knocking the door down.. LOOK IT UP! I dont think anyone needs to be on the indviduals side whose house got busted down because "he was growing illegal narcotics" and had a firearm within the presence of growing those narcotics.. Bottomlime, the officers did what they were suppose to do and Thank goodness the individual that pulled the trigger on the detective will never see the outside of a cage ever again: ) How could stand up for such a person? Thats it...

D.E., you are apparently significantly misinformed about the specifics of this case.

This was not a "split second decision" - this raid was several days in the making.

Someone chose to have this raid executed at a time when the house was occupied and to force entry into the house before announcing their presence. All with no physical evidence or criminal record.

The situation in which Officer Shivers was caught was created entirely by the actions of the police, and was entirely avoidable. This is not a trivial matter than can wait for a time and place you find more convenient.

All Chesapeake SWAT-related activities should be immediately suspended until there's been a review of the entire chain of command which let this fiasco take place.

What a tragedy! I will continue to pray for the officer's family. I used to work with Ryan Frederick and I am just so shocked that this happened. He was a sweet and caring person, this just doesnt make sense to me! My thoughts and prayers go out to all the lives that are forever changed in the blink of an eye......

Let me explain what daniel wants to know. He would like to know that the individual he is pulling over is swd2k. Why? Because he has read enough of swd2k hateful rants against police officers in general to know that this is a potential confrontation in the makings from Mr/MRs, "I don't like you, respect you, fear you, I will make your job as difficult as possible for you because I know it all, I know my right's and I as swd2k know that you are all out to get me. I believe swd2k has all the same rights I have. I aslo believe he/she has some serious personality problems. No sense of decency, to the dead, their families or friends to say the things he has said, and thank God the pilot had the backbone to draw the line between 1st ammendment rights and respect for the family of this officer.

I came to the story because my heart goes out to the wife and the kids, who now have to continue their lives without their husband and father. I'm really not sure what him doing his job now has to do with the fact he was murdered. That's it. Regardless on how or why the Police Dept. saw fit to execute the search warrant or where they got the information that there were criminal activity going on in that house; the point still remains that they did and it ended up with a heinious crime being committed, a life taken for nothing. My only question now is, why is the murderer only being charged with first degree murder and not capital murder of a police officer? When Officer Reeves was murdered 2 yrs ago, the person killing him was charged with a capital crime. Are the procecutors upgrading the charge or is it because the murderer is white, its only a first degree offense? One race gets the death penalty and the other gets 25 yrs? Where is the justice in that?

This is not the time and place for such discussion. There will be time and place for that later....just not now. Law enforcement make split second decisions that are forever second guessed ad nauseum.... To the big talkers....put your mouth were your bravado is!!! Sign the dotted line.....Law enforcement needs all you smart, wise folk......then we can Monday Morning QB everything you do in a media microscope.

Daniel says "It's a shame that the Pilot can't supply their names to law enforcement agencys so the cowards couldn't hide behind "pen names"."

Does Daniel suggest that swd2k and the like be arrested for expressing his views? There is that silly First Amendment that is supposed to protect speech whether popular or not. The other is that The Pilot who controls this board has it in it's power to censor or choose not to post their comments. I don't believe that swd2k's comments deserve such censorship. It is sad that Officer Shivers lost his life. One has to have sympathy for his family. However, this officer knew the risks just as a fireman knows that he can lose his life going out on a call. Life is sacred whether you are a police officer, fireman, or swd2k. I don't feel that an officers life or firemans life is worth any more or any less than mine. I think that may be part of swd2k's point. There still are unanswered questions in this case. I will withold judgement until all of the facts are out.

The city of Chesapeake needs to give serious thought to why this officer's life was put on the line in the first place.

No criminal record, no hard evidence. With no evidence but the word of an informant they forced their way into a house which was known to be inhabited. Couldn't this have been done while he was away? Couldn't they have knocked and civilly inquired?

Any of us could have our door busted down based on the word of a single anonymous informant. That policy represents a gross violation of our Fourth Amendment protections, as well as a reckless policy that puts private citizens and officers in danger.

I am far less inclined to blame the citizen protecting his home from a presumed invasion than I am the police leadership who planned and allowed the raid in the first place.

It's interesting the you title yourself on this board after a historian known by two names: 1) The Father of History and 2) The Father of Lies. Which do you see yourself? I know where my money is.

Only someone that knows not the first thing about another can surmise they need "help". I might need help, but then I live in Hampton Roads, don't I? It is well-known that Herodotus was seen by many as gullible and a fabricator of stories, embellishing them to make them more interesting regardless of the facts. I'd find a new name...

Last, it's not hate, or even being mean, to be well past tired of the ceaseless news coverage. Do you get it now?

I understand the reaction of decent people on this board to some of the bitter and heartless comments here. But the people making those comments are ignored and unknown in their real life and should remain so here. The Internet may give them the anonymity they need to spew the bile caught in their throats, but it doesn't make them any more significant in the eyes of the community. Charlie99 makes a good point below when he notes that a real community of decent people has responded visibly and publicly to this loss. There is no need to pay attention to those who post hate.

My sorrow goes out to the family, friends and co-workers of Officer Shivers. May he be with God.
However, there a lot of unanswered questions that still need to be addressed. For myself, if someone is breaking down my door,I don't care what they are yelling, such as "POLICE". I'm shooting and shooting to kill. How do I know they are who they say they are. Home envasionist can yell "POLICE" just as loud and just as often as the real cops can.
But, I am a law abiding person and there would be NO reason for the Police to ever bash in my door. Except for them having the wrong address.
This sad unwarranted untimely death of a Police Officer screams out for a civilian reveiw board to oversee and make sure, a true and factual investigation is performed.

A friend of mine commented recently that the world has never been meaner. As a student of history and an optimist, I reject that notion, even with all the ignorance and cruelty that seems to surround us. But I admit that many of the regular posters to these boards, often hiding behind anonymity, prove there is still plenty of meanness in the world. The bitterness, paranoia and despair that these posters try to hide behind twisted and ill-informed logic is appalling. Every person's life has value and focusing on one tragedy does not demean other, even greater, tragedies. I offer my condolences to the family and my pity to swd2k. You should seek help. This is not the way to get the attention you crave.

Detective Shivers is a hero. But it’s possible Mr Frederick is a law-abiding citizen who feared for his life. The informant may have been mistaken. Food for thought: the police recently raided a house across from Mr Frederick's due to drug activity, Mr Frederick believed someone tried to break into his house a couple days before the raid on his home and according to the evidence list on the warrant released yesterday - no drugs found at the scene. We can best honor Det Shivers by respecting the process that will determine whether or not Mr Frederick has committed a crime. If Mr Frederick is found innocent of murder due to self-defense, Det Shivers still did the job to the best of his ability.

As usual, so many can't read and discern the context from the written word. For those that can't deduct the point, it is this: The guy was a cop, nothing more nothing less as far as his profession goes, so five days and five nights of news coverage is hard to fathom. I think it's a tragedy when anyone dies, and I pray for their souls, even the cops'. However, there are those that have served their country all their lives dying today. There are those that have served their charities all their lives dying today. There are those that have served their churches, schools, and communities all their lives dying today. WHERE IS THEIR NEWS COVERAGE??? This guy was a cop for a mere eight years, but you'd think he was Divine by the coverage. To those that suggest the cops protect us, I hope your delusion never gets tested when the chips are down! To those that think freedom of speech should be "turned over to law enforcement", you really should READ the US Constitution. Yes, it's a tragedy for this man's family, but people die every day; it's a fact of life. He was in a high-risk profession, and it cost him the highest price. I pray that he rests in peace; maybe the news outlets

As a regular reader of these comments I'm sure there are others out there that have noticed postings from both SWD2K and BCHCAT1124 pertaining to anything involving law enforcement. Their problems with the law are deep rooted. In fact I have a gut feeling that they are both probably out at this time on probation or parole. Once they are picked up again we won't have to put up with their jibberish. It's a shame that the Pilot can't supply their names to law enforcement agencys so the cowards couldn't hide behind "pen names".

As a personal friend of Jarrod's & his family, I'd like to express my deepest thanks to those of you honoring his sacrifice & praying for his family at this difficult time. I understand that a post was removed from this chain & that that person chose to use his freedom of speech in such a way as to be deemed disrespectful. That same freedom of speech that Jarrod dedicated his life to preserving, in the Navy & as a police officer.
Trust me when I tell you that that person has been drowned out by what we've read on this chain & by what we saw today. It seemed as though every citizen of Chesapeake & beyond stood still as the procession passed, hands over hearts, saluting or just standing in honor. A million thank you's could never begin to express the gratitude we felt as those who did not know him paid their respects to not only a fallen hero, but a dad, a son, a brother & our friend. May he rest in peace.

I have numerous friends and family that are Police Officers and I couldnt imagine going through something like this. My heart goes out to Officer Shivers family, friends, and fellow officers.

May God bless all of our American Heros....