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Penalty license plates urged for 3-time DUI drivers’ cars

Posted to: General Assembly News Virginia




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Get caught driving drunk three times and you’d be the not-so proud owner of a bright yellow license plate under a law proposed by Del. Lionell Spruill Sr., D-Chesapeake.

“With this, you see people with that car and you watch out for it,” he said. “We’ve got to do something to let everybody know this guy is a danger to society.”

But civil libertarians say the “Scarlet Letter” approach goes too far and could unfairly mark a car driven by innocent family members. Anti-drunken-driving advocates said it just won’t work.

The bill, HB 1281, would require people with three or more DUI convictions to buy $500 yellow plates with red letters and numbers and keep them on their cars for five years after they get their driver’s licenses back. Spruill made a similar proposal last year, but the bill died in committee.

“This is a sound-good bill based on soundless logic and will likely meet the fate it deserves,” Kent Willis, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia, wrote in an e-mail.

“It’s well-intentioned, but I don’t think it will have a real impact,” added Chris Konschak, executive director of Mothers Against Drunk Driving for Virginia and Washington, D.C. He said an ignition lock that requires an alcohol-free breath test would work better to curb drunken driving.

About 955 Virginians got a third DUI conviction in 2006, according to Spruill’s 2007 bill.

Other states have tried variations on the idea, but most abandoned them because they didn’t reduce drunken driving, MADD’s Konschak said.

Spruill likened the measure to publicizing the addresses of repeat child molesters. “Just because you got that license back,” he said, “doesn’t mean you’re not still an alcoholic.”

 

Staff Writer Julian Walker contributed to this report

 

Aaron Applegate, (757) 222-5122. aaron.applegate@pilotonline.com



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A person's life must be worth nothing in VA

After reading all of the comments. It makes me scratch my head and wonder what is wrong with people. Many need a serious reality check. Who would value a person's feeling or humiliation over someone’s life? The plates are another stupid idea, and don’t even do anything to fix problem. I am a child of an alcoholic and a career navy man that deals with this stuff all of the time. But when I sit in court observing judge after judge waiving fines and jail time, I wonder how this can possibly solve the problem. If you hit an alcoholic where it hurts the most. Hit them in the pocketbook. Take away their money to purchase alcohol or send them to jail for a long time to feel withdraws. Then they start to get the reality of the situation. Counseling or AA doesn’t work as a punishment. Alcoholism is a disease and needs proper attention to correct, but has a small success rate. Simple DUI = Impound the car and auction it off, with the proceeds going to the local Police Department, that made the arrest. + 1 year of straight jail time. (No weekends or conditional driver’s license). + Heavy fines. Then they will only be a burden to themselves. NO CAR, NO DUI. Then they can walk to the st

Forget about drunk drivers , lets...

Forget about drunk drivers, this is a waste of time and energy for we all know if one is determined to drink and drive, the only thing stopping them will be jail time. Save my tax dollars for something more appropriate such as, lets insert chips into all convicted pedeophiles while in jail upon their release, to monitor their whereabouts during an Amber alert....we all know time is of the essence when one child goes missing and how better to track all offenders in the area of the missing child? This would quicken response time and rescue time tremendously by locating every known offender within the radius of the missing child. Drunk drivers? Lock them up after the 2nd offense for 6 months. Make them go to AA upon release and check in once a month. If caught the third time, lock them up for a year. License plates are a very dumb idea, for one shouldn't have gotten a license after the second offense, geez...

I agree. Anyone with 3

I agree. Anyone with 3 convictions should be in prison for at least 10 years and never be allowed to drive again.

I happen to think a lot of

I happen to think a lot of this idea! Why not? I'm not particularly interested in "drunk drivers" ~ I also have nothing to worry about as I DON'T DO THAT! Just a few thoughts . . . .

3 Time Looser

Anyone with 3 DUI convictions should be in jail. Once released they should NEVER have a drivers license again. If an innocent family member is driving an auto with a yellow or any other designation, they assume the scorn of the general public even though they are completely innocent. This a stupid idea. Address the problem of the drink driver directly with prison and denial of all and any driving rights. It doesn't matter, a 3 time looser will just put stolen plates on their vehicle anyway.

Stupid Idea

Just another waste of time by legislators who can't find anything better to do. So the last thing someone sees before they die is the flash of a yellow license plate? Put some teeth in the laws already on the books, and just get them off the streets! You really think the 3rd offender gives a crap about the color of his license plate? Like somebody inferred earlier, you'll probably see them all over the place!

waste of money

how about allowing taxi's from norfolk to pick up people in virginia beach, or instead of getting your car towed after 2am at the oceanfront, let people leave them there. why are we making it so hard to get home by any other way? how about some mass transit, train, trolley, anything quicker than the bus. give people a chance to be responsible, instead of the alternative.

One is too many

Ohio already does this. I am sure other states do as well. I can not believe that someone who has three DUI's is allowed to have a drivers license. Must be a commonwealth thing.

Zero BAC

Do I know what it's like to blow a .08? No...I don't get behind the wheel unless I'm sure I can blow a .00. If I have been drinking at all, I hand the keys to someone else. If you drink and drive, you're a moron. Period.

If the courts would enforce the existing law.

I've seen several people get charged DUI several times and the courts either reduce the charges or dismiss the charges if they complete a silly little program. Few of these people ever completed the programs but the went to them until their next court date and the charges were dropped. It's time for the judges to stop being enablers and uphold the law and the efforts and work of the police departments. More laws and programs are not the answer! The answer is to uphold the current laws on the books.

Seriously?!

I read these comments and people make it seem like this will actually deter people from driving under the influence. This would have ZERO effect on the decision making of an enebriated driver. Even organizations such as MADD (quoted in the article) realize that this plan is useless. All I see is that some legislator wanted to take a "tough" stand on drunk drivers and make some headlines.

Get caught driving drunk three times ...

They shouldn't be able to own a car moreless drive one!

Why not

Perhaps the plates should have "Jack Daniels and Jim Beam ride shotgun with me!!!", also.

Huh?

Why do they still have a license with 3 DUI's? I rather not see any of those plates on the road. We can take away a license for non payments of child support but we keep those with multiple DUI's on the road? What part of the game is that?

Missed the target

Anyone with three DUI convictions should not be able to obtain a license, much less own a car. The General Assembly missed the target on this one.

Hate to say this....

but there are drivers on the roads perfectly SOBER who present more of a danger to my life and yours than a drunk....why single the drunk driver out? BTW, the license plate is a crappy idea.

hang them

THREE DUI's they shouldn't be driving and if they are they probably don't own a car and they are using someone else's.
DMV should not allow any one with two DUI's to drive yet alone three. Three they should be locked up for a long long time... And DMV should be held accountable for their actions.

YES give them the plate after 1 DUI and have them keep it for 1 year at a cost of $1000 + civil costs.
Tattoo their forehead after 2 DUI's using PINK ink.
Jail them forever after three.

Lets face it if some is charged and convicted with attempted murder three times they wouldn't get out of jail. No different than using your vehicle as a weapon for murder.

Sounds Good

w is this plate any different then someone having a personalized plate?? You can brag what college you went too, or you have confederate pride. If you drive drunk, then why not allow the rest of us to know to stay away. What happened to all the anger from last April, when two young girls were killed by a drunk driver?! We should label them, they broke the law, endangered lives and maybe the will learn not to drink/drive. Would they rather have the guilt of killing someone, while driving drunk. If they have that yellow plate, they shouldn’t care how it looks and what others say. Stop DUI/DWI too many people have been killed, and this can help-a little. That is better then nothing!

elsie-eye

Great comment that should put the debate to sleep. What amazes me is how Americans are jumping on board every stupid idea some politician come up with. This sheep-syndrome is growing at an alarming rate.

Plain silly...

....unless we are going to A license plates for Adulterers, S license plates for sex offenders, T license plates for tax evaders, etc. Seriously folks, they tried the scarlet letter thing in the 1600s...I don't think it worked. Far better to take away licenses and put people in jail.

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