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Half-inch-short swimming pool in Virginia Beach will be fixed

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VIRGINIA BEACH

For want of a half-inch, 10 national records were lost.

Now, the swimming pool that spawned that controversy is about to grow.

It will take five weeks and $29,900, but when the work is done, the pool at the Princess Anne Recreation Center will be up to snuff. The city will close the pool to start construction about March 10. The pool is expected to reopen about April 14.

The controversy began in February 2003 after a state high school championship swim meet at the rec center. Ten national records were set and 28 swimmers qualified as All-Americans.

That made some people suspicious, so they measured the pool. It came up short.

The pool is supposed to be 25 meters long. But it was not built with state championship regulations in mind, so precision was not crucial, City Engineer John W. Herzke said at the time.

Measurements were taken at various times, under varying conditions, but all came up short. Final measurements showed one lane short by a half-inch, another short by 3/16ths of an inch.

As a result, the Virginia High School League struck down the 10 records and the 28 All-American performances.

“Every inch a person swims is critical when you’re measuring in hundredths of a second,’’ an official with the National Interscholastic Swimming Coaches Association said.

For a while, Virginia Beach considered fixing the pool. Instead, the city used the pool at the Bayside Recreation Center for all swim meets. That pool, a virtual twin of the one at Princess Anne, is exactly 25 meters.

The pool at the Great Neck Recreation Center is not an option, said Teri Dalone, the city’s aquatic coordinator. While the Great Neck pool is nearly identical to the one at Bayside, only some of its lanes are certified for length.

At first, using only the Bayside pool worked. As the number of swim meets and number of swimmers grew, the pool became overused, Dalone said. For each meet, the pool had to be closed to the general public.

The Bayside pool is one of only three statewide used for Virginia High School League championships in the AAA group, for the high schools with the most students. Other cities are reluctant to host such large meets, said Tom Dolan, VHSL’s assistant director.

Virginia Beach officials “are the greatest at getting the most out of marginal facilities,” Dolan said. “They are the very rare exception to the rule.”

Early last year, Virginia Beach officials agreed to relieve Bayside by fixing the Princess Anne pool. The wall at the shallow end of all eight lanes will be moved slightly.

When the work is done, swim meets will alternate between Bayside and Princess Anne, which are at opposite ends of Virginia Beach. The Princess Anne center has more parking and is closer to the Oceanfront, Dalone said.

The city is not considering fixing any more pools, she added.

Meanwhile, league officials have not found any more too-short swimming pools. “That was an anomaly,” Dolan said, “a once-in-a-blue-moon type of thing.”

 

Marc Davis, (757) 222-5131, marc.davis@pilotonline.com

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30K IS A WASTE

Cliff writes "Again, 30k is very small compared to the TAX REVENUE that can be generated for the city by hosting these swim meets."

Cliff, 30K is a lot of money and is a waste of money for something that I feel is idiotic as adding 1/2" to a freeking swimming pool for swimming meet regulations. Virginia Beach HAS a regulation swimming pool that meets the swim meet requirements for competition. Give me a break!

Tax Revenue

Again, 30k is very small compared to the TAX REVENUE that can be generated for the city by hosting these swim meets.

Also, fractions of an inch are very small and seem insignificant but if you compare that to other sports it really isn't all that ridiculous. In football think of a receiver who just misses catching a pass becuase it is thrown a fraction of an inch too far and just grazes off of his fingertips. Think of baseball where a batter just misses making contact with the ball by a fraction of an inch.
And finally, stop watches are not used anymore. There are timing pads on the walls that automatically stop when the swimmer touches them. Stop watches are only used as a backup.

How to pay for it...User Fee!

How about we raise the cost of a rec center pass or membership so those using the rec center fund the improvements or maybe we charge those holding a swim meet a little extra until the $30,000 is paid for? This doesn't have to be a taxpayer funded issue. User fees are the answer...

Yeah...You're probably

Yeah...You're probably right...Bush's fault. OK

My bad

keithh41833, I type corrected. A thousand apologies for my oversight and assigning credit to where it did not belong. I'm pretty sure it's Bush's fault.

CS - glad to help with the analogy thing

"blaming him for everything under the sun"

And thanks for continuing to make my point. Two Bush apologistic "oh you blame bush for everything" posts, to zero posts where someone does blame shrub.

Thanks for the "tip"

cs writes "And keithh41833, I’m flattered. You responded to my original post once, stewed about it for another three hours, then added another response. I tip my hat to your, sir."

Actually cs I only made the one post, but thanks for the tip though. There are two of us "Keith's" that post on the blogs. I didn't disagree with your analogy as to the benefits of fitness, but what appeared to be the justification of spending 30K to add a 1/2" to a swimming pool that wouldn't benefit any more or any less to ones "fitness"
The paper stated that it was not built with state championship regulations in mind. There is also a pool at Bayside Recreation Center that DOES meet the regulations for qualifications. This is the sort of frivolous spending of taxpayer money that I believe pisses off the majority of the bloggers out there. $30K is a lot of money regardless of what percentage of the budget it accounts for. It's easy to be charitable with "other peoples" money.

THE RULE IS 25 METERS, NOT ALMOST 25 METERS

The requirement is that the pools be 25 meters long. It doesn't say "approximately 25 meters," nor does it say say "almost 25 meters."

We start on the proverbial "slippery slope" when we start to ignore regulations. What lesson are we teaching students when we say its OK to only approximate, not meet, requirements. Should we forgive an athlete because he said he only used 95% of a whole dose of steroids? If we forgive this pool's 1/2 inch discrepancy, does that not imply permission for other pools to be built at that length, thus effectively creating a new standard? What happens if a future pool is built 1/2 inch short of the implied revised standard? Do we forgive that shortcoming because of the precedent set by ignoring the discrepancy at the Princess Anne Rec Center? Do we then say its OK to have pools that are a full inch short? Where does it stop? The line has to be drawn somewhere and in this case I submit that the line is set at 25 meters, period.

I believe that the Virginia High School League has done the right thing in striking down the records that were set at a pool that did not meet the requirements. Someone has to stand up for what's right. Want to fa

Anaology - now I get it...

Thanks for the help. It wasn’t the analogy with which I have an issue, per se, and the current occupant of the White House is hardly my boy. Quite the contrary, in fact. I am just tired of having everyone blaming him for everything under the sun, just as I did when Bill Clinton was in charge. Now, with my marathon comparison what I was doing was what’s called hyperbole. hy•per•bo•le -noun Rhetoric 1. Obvious and intentional exaggeration. 2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally. I still maintain that my point is valid. Yes, running only a small part of a marathon and extrapolating a finishing time is an exaggeration, but it is the same in principle to averaging a swimmer’s pace and then extrapolating what his time would have been had he finished the race. The half inch makes a huge difference in competition. I get the distinct impression that those of you who are so adamant that it doesn't have never participated in sport at any truly competitive level.

I am going to save you guys $29,500

Duh. Just get a custom tape measure made that matches the correct length with the 25 meter measurement. This issue is kind of silly, the measurement is such a small fraction I seriously doubt the time difference is measurable, even if you had a scientific camera with a very high FPS. This ain't no Olympics.

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