'This is our time,' Obama declares to Beach crowd

A D+ student in high school, was able to enter Yale, through the affirmative action program of legacy,( legacy allows a non-qualified student a spot in a great university on the merits of relatives). He again maintained a D+ average. He was admitted to a Harvard graduate school, again not on his merits. He then had a mediocre business career. Later, he was elected governor of Texas. Finally, this person was appointed by the loaded Supreme Court to be President of the USA. If this person has been able to hold office as Governor & President, despite having no qualifications, other than bloodlines, why not Obama?
Let's face it. The person now serving as President, if not for his bloodlines & connections, would be lucky to serve as assistant manager of a lemonade stand.

One of the earlier posters wrote a comment that no one should receive a government check for doing nothing. In some circumstances, I would agree. So any of our posters that have like opinions, should be all for getting the biggest "Do - Nothing" in all America out of town. That person is Dick Cheney. He should be made to repay taxpayers for 8yrs of "welfare."

We've been reduced to repeating quotes from children's movies... Goonies?

Give me a break. Please do us a favor. Go back to AOL.

Will you vote for me I promise to change everything, smile and then do a little dance? That IMO is what I see from Obama. How can you put your trust into a representative who prefers to enter a vote of "present" instead of showing his true convictions. Not much of a representative if you ask me. Obama is simply a modern day snake oil salesman pitching an empty bottle of elixir.

It appears Obama is the winner in VA. If he continues to win states, the outcome is obvious. You will have a republican president. This may make some of you angry, but it is true. Save this post. Remember you helped elect the next republican president with your vote for Obama.

And for Speak English (mostly, anyway):

My name is Danielle, the feminine form of Daniel.

I have read several of Obama's detailed plans, as suggested by my post in which I directly quote a document on his website. I am glad to have discussions and debates on this board, but please do not presume to tell me what I have or have not done. Let's keep our language respectful, leave the personal out, and stick to addressing the issues.

For better or worse, the Constitution of the U.S. has frequently been amended because the "founding fathers" could not have foreseen some of the matters pertinent in later years. If we hoped to limit our policies to those explicitly detailed in the original document, we would need to do more than just abandon health care reform - we would need to end many existing government programs and services. Maybe some of them deserve to go - but the bottom line here is that our government is already large and likely will remain so, no matter which candidate or party wins the presidential election. The issue worth debating now is: where do we draw the line? What sorts of initiatives are worth "bending" or adding to the Constitution for, and which sorts take

To Orion:

If you read my full sentence (which may have been hard to do since I split up the post), it says that Barack Obama graduated first in his class at Harvard Law. George W. Bush did not do this. He graduated from Harvard Business School and he was not first in his class. After graduation, Obama became a community organizer in Chicago while Bush went to work in the family oil business. I'm not arguing that either path is the "right" one to the presidency.

I meant "our time."

"Get over yourself!!!!!!!!!!!"

You could have shown me you have nothing to offer in this discussion except insults by using less exclamation marks. Your comment is just as useless and uninformative if you had used one instead of the eleven. Back to the question. Do you have anything to tell me? No? What a suprise. I am pleading w/ you to "enlighten" me. To answer anopther poster about what "out time" means, I think it is similiar to the speech that Corey Feldman gave in the cave in the movie The Goonies. Remember when they were at the bottom of the well? "This dream, this was my dream...and it didn't come true. So I'm taking it back. I'm taking them all back."

Would some one explain to me what "Our Time" means. Was that a veiled racist remark meant to spark people to vote racially? Did he actually mean him and his wife? What does he mean when he says that? I am so confused that people can't look past his charisma and look at his experience, his stated goals and how he is to reach them. All potatoes and NO meat, no experience either. He needs to wait 6 more years and then he may possibly be ready, after we get a chance to see that he votes on the tough issues and takes a stance. For now he is a much better dance partner, picking and choosing what to vote on so that he looks good. Develope a record and then run on it, he just doesn't have it yet!

Get over yourself!!!!!!!!!!!

is going to be a very long and interesting 9 months.

So you don't really know do you? VB, it would appear I have made you plenty mad. Glen, many of us have indeed read about Obama. That is the point. There is no substance in his pledges. As for the accusation some of us are actually out to create gains for republicans, that is not true. It has already been addressed by myself in this thread. The only way I will vote republican is if the person is running against Obama. A lot of people will. McCain over Obama is a no brainer. Per glen's own statement, we really need a capable leader here. I have no proof that Obama is that leader. I am convinced he is not electable. Those of you who say he is in the lead ignore Florida and Michigan. Why do you ignore a states results that cost Gore the election? If it were a real election and not a primary Clinton would already have won hands down. Your shooting yourself in the foot. Many of you have turned it into a black vs. white thing. None of these results are good for us. How am I narrow minded?

I suggest you keep with "Indy Cars" and stay away from posting about history. Not one thing in your endless rant was factual.

Try taking off the tin-foil hat and do some reading of history.

And thank you Phrog for reiterating what I said. Today's "entitlement" society is killing our country. You are given the right to three things, the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, period.

To back up Joyce, that is what I am saying. He has the gall to critque his competitor for their votes when he didn't even show up. Do you all really believe someone's intentions when they don't even bother to take action? Is it better to not act upon important legislation than to be wrong? Heck no it's not! This idea of becoming a leader just because of image and popularity has to end. We need someone who takes action, not one who derides others for doing so.

Don't vote for someone just because they are really good as an orator. That has happened before and it didn't turn out so well. Obama is still vague on many policies and I looked at his Congressional Voting Record. It looked as if he chose not to vote at all on more issues than he voted one way or the other. You can't ride down the center all the time, sometimes you have to make a choice one way or the other. I think this country is going to be in a world of hurt if Obama becomes President. It is unrealistice for him to think that he can have all all military out of IRAQ in 16 months. He may sound good when he is saying it, but so far everything I have heard from him is just the wind blowing.

Ira don't flatter yourself buddy. I could never let anyone with such ignorance and bitterness make me mad. You do your thing today. But just remember YOU WILL never praise Obama because your narrow mind won't let you. See Ira it is called voting and it's a democratic process that is the ultimate priviledge of being an American. I vote for mine and you vote for yours. Trust me it's all good. Watch and see what the outcome will be today and in November. Cry all you want but the people make the choice.......not you Ira. Thank the good Lord!!!!!!

all i can say is good luck to Obama, Clinton and McCain because they are going to need every bit of it during their presidency.......

oh my goodness....the stuff you people come up with...give it a rest already....

on a side note, the people who keep saying Obama is a muslim, Obama hates whites, Obama is planning to take over the country, blah blah blah blah blah, PLEASE go sit down somewhere and let the new blood help run this country....im willing to go out on a limb and say that the majority of the people who are spewing incorrect facts about Obama probably voted for George "Dubaya" Bush BOTH times.....those same out of touch people are a LARGE part of the reason why the country is separated and struggling now, both financially and morally...its time for an open-minded, fresh-faced candidate to take control of this debacle that Dubaya has caused over the past 7-8 years.....and i know whats coming next...."But George Bush had to clean up Clinton's mess, blah blah blah blah." No.....that argument is old and false....Bush baby has had 8 years to shape this country....if anything , he's made his time in the White House the worst time period in American history.......

PS....no matter how you slice it, there's a BIG mess that needs to be cleaned up and its going to take a while to fix it....all i can say is go

Can someone please "enlighten" me? I have read the United States Constitution over and over and over again. I can almost recite all the articles in their entirety. I have not read anywhere in our governing document where it says that Health Care is a right. I cannot find in its lines where Stem Cell Research is a requirement for our federal government to support and mandate. In its tenants I have failed to find the part that says Education, Welfare and Social Security are mandated federal programs. According to the articles of the Constitution, Income Tax is unconstitutional, but somehow our politicians back in the early 20th century slipped the 16th amendment into the Constitution. Well, they are the same politicians that gave us the 18th amendment...remember that??? It was called prohibition. It took 14 years for the politicians to realize just how insane that was. Why has it taken over a century for anyone to start telling people that federal levied income tax is wrong and unconstitutional?

I shouldn' even venture here but... For a society that first robbed and killed all the Indians in this country and stole the land, stole everything out of Africa, even it's people to create this glorious society of ours. People who have established a war on blacks since slavery, a war on drugs to incarcerate enterprising black males who didn't fit into the caucasian system and now make money building prisons to house them(i won't even mention crooked cops). Now, there is a war on anything non-white(hispanics, asians, arabs, etc.)and you feel you are justified in being the policemen of the world by going to war with anyone that disagrees with our point of view in world events. I prefer someone with an alternate value system. Because the one you are clinging to only reminds me of what Jesus said. "Judge not lest ye be judged". ABC

its sad that so many people who are talking down on Obama either cant or wont take the time to go to his site and read up on him.....you cant always get handouts...sometimes its best if you get the facts for yourself....after all, this is the future president that we're possibly talking about....why would you want to be misled by people who dont know what they're talking about when you can easily access the website for yourself......

oh yeah, and Ira, i think the only thing you forgot to mention in your previous posts is "Nanny, nanny, boo, boo".......haha

Come on. You have got to be kidding by saying that "Obama is the most qualified". Let's look at this with FACTS. Obama has been a US Senator for 4 years, and an Illinois Senator for 7 years for a grand total of...11 years in a leadership role. Let's look at the other candidates.
Clinton, US Senator - 6 Years
McCain, US Congressional Representative - 4 years, US Senator - 21 years
Huckabee, Arkansas State Governor - 9 years
Paul, US Congressional Representative - 17 years
Seems to me that there are at least two others who are far more qualified than Mr. Obama. Please place facts before rhetoric.
Yes he speaks well. Very likable. Has a very polished presentation. Impressive to say the least. But...Promises need to be backed up with substance. He has yet to explain just how our children will have to pay for it. Believe me, all these promises today will require pay-back tomorrow.

Listen to Oprah in SC ranting, thier time has come-At the core of the Democratic front-runner's faith — whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two — is African nativism, which raises political issues of its own.
In 1991, when Obama joined the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, he pledged allegiance to something called the Black Value System, which is a code of non-Biblical ethics written by blacks, for blacks.

It encourages blacks to group together and separate from the larger American society by pooling their money, patronizing black-only businesses and backing black leaders. Such racial separatism is strangely at odds with the media's portrayal of Obama as a uniter who reaches across races.

The code also warns blacks to avoid the white "entrapment of black middle-classness," suggesting that settling for that kind of "competitive" success will rob blacks of their African identity and keep them "captive" to white culture.

danielleUNC wrote:

"the last few lines of "The Specifics of 'Change' and 'Hope'":
class at Harvard Law (the mark of a very, very smart man)"

As did our current president and I wouldn't "mark" him as a very smart man, would you?

...Obama is a breath of fresh air, much like the cold front in July that brings destructive tornadoes behind it. danielleUNC, please get off your soapbox concerning health care. I suggest you get your head out of Obama's writings and read the Constitution of the United States. Health care, education, welfare, social security, and even voting are NOT protected under this document! And as far as who will pay, yes, the taxpayer, ME and anyone else who makes a decent living. I do not want to pay for socialized health care; it's obvious you do not know of the horrors of what it is and will do to the US populace. Call it what you will, but his [and Hillary's] policies revolve around income redistribution, the mantra of Marxists.

And keep it up Ira, the more detractors you get, the more it tells me how many sheep are really here. They don’t want a leader; they want to be herded…

Quotes from Barack Obama’s book, Audacity of Hope:
"Lolo (Obama's step father) followed a brand of Islam ...."I looked to Lolo for guidance".
"I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION." "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"
"never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself..". Just how clear does Obama have to make his disdain for the white race and his admiration for Islam? Is this a veiled threat that if he doesn’t accomplish his goal of winning the Presidency he will join Muslims….www.lakeregionbattlefield.webs.com

Obama has been in office for ten years and in public service for longer than that. He majored in international relations at Columbia and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. He is bright, articulate, and well versed in international politics. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he has been getting CIA briefings for years. He also has been in office longer than Hillary Clinton. He will make a great president, and he will present a different face of America to the world. A multicultural, multiracial face. The face of the real America.

Instant lame duck if you ask me. He is set up for failure backed by droves of wishful thinkers grasping at straws.

Really people. Who is this guy and what experience, knowledge, and results does he have to bring to the table? If this guy gets in office you will soon be treating him worse than Bush.

Ride the bandwagon while it lasts... Just like the folks who got suckered into adjustable rate loans you too are suckered into a no-where candidate.

But please define "Taxpayers". Will taxes go up to support and pay for all the new feel good programs? Who is going to pay for his "living" wage programs? According to what I read, every person that makes over a certian amount will pay more, but if they have to pay more in taxes, will that not bring them down to a lower amount of "true" income? He wants to get rid of the "tax breaks" that Bush put in place. Yes, the mega rich would pay more, but then again so would "middle income" persons. Come on Daniel, read his "blueprint" then discuss it.

...If you are committed enough to being an informed voter to look for it.

BarackObama.com contains a 15-page document outlining Obama's plan for healthcare. The last few lines read:

"The Obama plan will realize tremendous savings within the health care system to help finance the plan. The additional revenue needed to fund the up-front investments in technology and to help people who cannot afford health insurance is more than covered by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire for people making more than $250,000 per year, as they are scheduled to do."

Maybe that is not specific enough for some people, but I challenge you to find a candidate who is publicizing a more explicitly defined plan.