VIRGINIA BEACH
The fate of the old Dome site may depend on how much redevelopment the city wants to bite off at one time.
If city leaders want to transform the Dome pad into an entertainment complex, they might be eager to partner with a group promoting VB X Park, an extreme sports center wrapped by shopping and restaurants.
If leaders want the same firm to redevelop all along 19th Street, including a headquarters hotel for the Convention Center, then they might be tempted by a trio of developers featuring Armada Hoffler.
So, what does the city want?
Good question.
“We’ve got a tough choice to make,” said Steve Herbert, the city’s chief development officer. “What’s the value of this project beyond the boundaries of the vacant Dome site?”
As city leaders prepare to interview three interested developers this week to work on the Dome site, one group is making the most noise.
Wave House Extreme Times LLC would build VB X Park, a complex of some two city blocks that would feature a 75,000-square-foot wave pool with a retractable roof, a multiplex, an indoor wind tunnel, a rock climbing wall and a live theater venue.
Craig Dean, the group’s managing member, said there is also 150,000 square feet of space set aside for future development.
“We want to build what the city sees,” Dean said. “They’re the ones with the land.”
VB X Park has a Web site with a mock newscast that makes it sound like the proposal has already been approved by the City Council. Only at the end of the video clip does a woman wake up from a nap and say, “What a dream.”
“I know what the Beach needs,” Dean said. “And if it’s anything but entertainment … it falls short. People need something to do.”
The plan has gotten the attention of the Virginia Beach Hotel-Motel Association, which stated in a recent letter that “these are things we currently do not have in the resort.”
Linwood Branch, association president, said his group has not endorsed Dean’s plan, but finds it intriguing because it has all-weather activities.
“You need a year-round type of experience,” Branch said. “That’s what we’re hoping the decision makers realize.”
Dean is already a familiar developer in Norfolk, where he is a partner in several Granby Street projects. Those buildings, including Granby Theater and the historic Bankers Trust Building, have come under fire in the past year for structural and public safety issues
Dean said he is proud of his work in Norfolk and he has lined up at least $100 million to put into the Dome site, if his group is selected.
He also said that focusing on the Dome site first – and not the entire 19th Street corridor – will jump-start Oceanfront revitalization.
“Everything else will follow,” said Jack Strickland, one of Dean’s partners.
Lou Haddad, president of Armada Hoffler, sees it differently.
To redevelop the Dome site, Armada Hoffler teamed with local development firm Bruce Smith Enterprise and The Cordish Co. of Baltimore. Cordish redeveloped part of that city’s Inner Harbor and built mixed-use districts in Louisville, Ky. and Kansas City, Mo.
Haddad’s triumvirate hasn’t submitted a plan yet, preferring to instead wait to talk to city leaders. His vision for the Dome site is a mixed- use district of shopping, eating and music venues – similar to Armada Hoffler’s work at Town Center.
But Armada Hoffler and its investors may not stop at the Dome site. Haddad said his team is working to submit a plan to build a headquarters hotel for the convention center. The city has given developers until April to submit plans .
“The kind of investment that we’re talking about, you can’t just say, 'Here’s a nice plan, let’s do this,’” Haddad said. “We’re talking in the hundreds of millions of dollars. They really can’t select our approach without being willing to look at the whole corridor and what it needs to make us into a first-class destination.”
Councilman John Uhrin said the third firm to be interviewed, Leisure and Recreation Concepts Inc. of Dallas, has been quiet, but is still “a major player.” The company’s president has said he would build a district of restaurants, shopping and, possibly, a “moving theater.”
“If I were making a proposal to come in, I may not give away my hand either,” Vice Mayor Louis Jones said.
Jones said the council is months away from any decisions. None of the three developers have hinted at how much public funding they would ask for, and city leaders haven’t said how much they’d spend.
And even if the Virginia Beach Development Authority chooses one of the developers to work with exclusively for six months on a Dome site plan, the council – which has the final say – won’t be committed to any project or company.
“To say somebody’s in the front-running really would not be fair and not logical at this point,” Jones said. “We’ve got to see what the deals are. That’s the way this goes.”
Richard Quinn, (757) 222-5119, richard.quinn@pilotonline.com







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26 million dollar budget short fall...Is it real?
I just love the new ideas being looked at but when you are 26 million short in the budget, it is hard to look at these things as realistic. I can't wait to see how the city manager's budget overcomes the 26 million. Forcing a 6% cut in department budgets to fund this type project isn't going to win city council members any new fans...
Great Idea
I love the whole concept of this new entertainment complex. Why, I remember how that big swing thingy used to be down at Rudy Inlet. Such a shame they took it down. People would start to line up at the tilt a whirl on 15th just to ride it.
Look Up At The Sky Above This Lot
The vultures are circling, & licking their lips, or beaks. Looks like it's already a parking lot. Why not let local swimmers or fishermen park there, & not charge what they are gouging the tourists for. Oh wait...I'm waking up now. I must have been dreaming. The last time i fished at VB, I was run off by the police saying I couldn't park my truck there after midnight, even though I was parked at a meter which still had lots of time left from the quarters I put in.
Va Beach Needs "Things To Do"
Whatever they choose to build down there needs to be entertainment,sports and or culturally oriented. We cannot build another strip of malls or pubs to grab a bite at. Too much of this type of building has given the Beach a reputation as being a cheap, tourist oriented, cardboard box architecture, destination. The city has tremendous potential to become a beautiful town, full of vibrancy. Va. Beach needs more entertainment and cultural venues. The Beach has so little of these things. Why do you think everybody goes to Norfolk for major events/ cultual/entertainment venues? Because Va. Beach has none or very litle at all! Build for our future, for our citizens, not the tourists.
tear down the ghetto
why not tear down the ghetto of homes between the convention center and pacific ave and build all three options incorporating the 1 or two businesses worth a hoot in that corridor (WRV and Beach Bully). There could be a whole mixed use "city walk" with retail, music venue, condos, etc... Let the developers foot the bill, they are rich enough to take the risk - have you seen the hoeffler house for sale for 42 million on the eastern shore?
Great Attraction
The idea of an X-Treme sports center is brilliant! Not only would it be a huge draw for tourists but it would be a great place to spend a cold winter day with your family. There are so many other beach towns that have fun attractions like this and I'm sure they would get used by all. Think of all the times when the rip currents are so bad that people don't want to go in the water. Instead of flooding hotel pools they could walk over and have multiple fun activites. Also it would be great to have a big indoor concert area. People need to start thinking outside the box to keep Virginia Beach as a fresh and fun place to visit.
I agree
Contrary to some postings, I think this is this is a fabulous idea. It's a year round activity etc,etc. However it's not going to happen. Armada Hoffler has spoken and THEY WILL BE OBEYED!! Forget it surfer guys, you're going to be run over....the votes were bought long ago..
Virginia has no waves!
For those of you who find it absurd to have a wave pool next to the ocean, just remember that good surfing waves are hard to come by. Also, it gets cold in the winter and we do have storms in the summer, it is much more practical than you think. Not to mention it has sky diving, a movie theater, virtual reality games, shopping, food, and a concert venue. the other two proposals just have shopping and movies. This is the most innovative of the 3.
Yes the city needs.....
A wave pool right next to the OCEAN?!?!?! Once again, Virginia Beach looks to screw up any opportunity they have to become a top destination!!
Entertainment Complex
We really need an entertainment complex in the city. I'm not too sure about an all out X-sports center. This is the perfect opportunity to localize clubs & bars. They really need something similar to Paradise Island.
No Tax Dollars
As long as there is no taxpayer money given to the developers. Let the developer assume all the risk. We are tired of the in-the-pocket developer being given "incentives" to build. It is nothing more than a back-door pat on the back for a campaign contribution. No to public/private partership. Elections in November -- RE-Elect No One (RENO). Wanna bet VB council puts off the decision until after the elections?
Wave pool?
At the OCEANfront? Kind of redundant, don'tcha think?
More of the same?
Why use such a unique tract of land for more restaurants and more shopping? If there's one thing we already have plenty of in Virginia Beach, it's shopping and restaurants.
Those who focus on activities and giving people new things to do are on the right track.