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Bill would force a return of topless dancers’ pasties in Chesapeake

Posted to: Chesapeake News

CHESAPEAKE

About seven months ago, customers of Headlights and J.B.’s Gallery of Girls saw a change in the 50 or so dancers at the Chesapeake clubs:

The women’s pasties were gone.

The, er, uncovering was the result of a federal judge’s ruling last year that a Virginia law prohibiting lewd conduct at establishments with liquor licenses was unconstitutional and too broad.

Come July, however, the owner of the two Chesapeake clubs said a newly approved House of Delegates bill will force him and his dancers to bring back the nipple covers – or face losing his mixed beverage licenses.

The Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control “needs to get out of the business of regulating topless dancing,” said Buddy Brown, who owns the two Chesapeake clubs.

Del. John Cosgrove, R-Chesapeake, who sponsored the bill, said it will put ABC back on “constitutional footing” to enforce the law. Cosgrove argued Thursday that dancers at the Chesapeake clubs never had the right to go completely topless, despite the federal ruling last summer.

“The law had really never changed,” Cosgrove said. Once the judge prohibited ABC agents from enforcing it, club owners “just knew they could get away with it,” he said.

ABC agents have long been able to ticket restaurants or clubs that are deemed to have noisy, disorderly or lewd conduct on premises.

For Brown and his clubs on George Washington Highway, this meant all of his dancers had to wear pasties.

If the pasties fell off, Brown knew he could face a violation. So some of the dancers would use super-strength glue or double-sided carpet tape to keep them on, he said.

The Aug. 2, 2007, ruling of U.S. District Judge Walter D. Kelley Jr. changed all that, at least for a few months. The ruling was issued after a challenge to the law by six South Hampton Roads nightclubs repeatedly cited for disorderly and lewd conduct.

ABC asked for an emergency action to “restore the status quo with respect to the regulation of nudity and sexually oriented behavior” in licensed establishments, according to state documents.

Brown said business increased after his dancers went completely topless, but it wasn’t long before word got to Cosgrove .

A modified version of Cosgrove’s bill was approved by the General Assembly. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine has not signed it yet, a spokesman said.

The bill says an establishment can have its mixed beverage license suspended or revoked if there is entertainment of an “obscene” nature, “entertainment commonly called stripteasing, topless entertaining, or entertainment that has employees who are not clad both above and below the waist.” Brown feels this part of the bill is unfair.

“Who’s to say striptease isn’t artistic?” he asked.

For Brown’s club, dancers will cover up with pasties starting July 1. He said he will comply if Kaine signs the bill.

But he said he might challenge it.

 

Mike Saewitz, (757) 222-5207, mike.saewitz@pilotonline.com

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a response

I understand what you're saying now, but we obviously had a misunderstanding. The group of people who respond to marine mammals in distress in this area is known as a stranding team. It doesn't matter what the animal's predicament, they are the responders. I associate the stranding of marine mammals with an animal beached and unable to return to the water or stuck in netting offshore. The seal came ashore on its own and was able to return to the water and swim on its own. It was, however, in distress and needed help. Regardless, seals, unlike dolphins, do not rely on sonar and don't seem to be bothered by the Navy's sonar testing. The fishing net it was tangled in couldn't be blamed on the Navy either. I think that's what I was getting at; more that the animal was not "beached" and therefore it was unrelated to sonar testing.

Re BBINVB. Compassion, Covered Nipples, & Stranded Mammals

Actually I have no problem with compassion for animals, or strippers for that matter.. I'm all for it. The post, not "posts", I was referring to is the one where YOU, claimed that an animal that was actually was stranded, was in fact not. Perhaps you should review the post in question. Click on your comments.. If you did work at VMSM, as you claim, that makes the misidentification even more baffling. I mean the story did mention a "stranding team" 3X, & the animal, by definition, was stranded. And frankly I liked your comment on the "cover up the nipple story" & thought I said so, even though it's been many years since I've been to a "gentleman's club" myself. If I didn't say I liked that one, I'll say it now, & apologize, but the seal was stranded..While I don't worry about sensitivity, I was not trying to come off as unfriendly, & fear I may not have succeeded...:-) contractorva

contractorva

Obviously, you do not have compassion for animals if you disagree with my posts on stranded marine animals. Modern science has taught us how intelligent these creatures are and why we all need to coexist peacefully. I used to do volunteer work for the VMSM (now called the Virginia Aquarium), in school I was most focused on marine science, and I am involved in animal rescue locally. I am not a PETA person, in fact I dislike them in a BIG way, but I do believe in treating all animals humanely and doing what we can to help them. I am not a stripper, however, I do not believe my upper body is obscene, or that women exposing their breasts in a place where people pay for it is going to hurt anyone. Arguments against things like this are based on religion and shouldn't be allowed.

Too conservative

This state is going to hell in a hand basket over these petty bills and issues. Is this what my taxes are going towards?? Nipples are part of the human body and are in no way lewd. I think the lawmakers need to visit these clubs more often to loosen up a bit (I'm sure they do anyways)...

Get a grip...

Our legislators should just get the heck out of the way and let the ladies dance. It's irritating to be stuck in Virginia's transportation debacle while our legislators spend their time deciding whether a female dancer can show her nipples.

hmmmm

Lets see,

1. Truck nutz

2. bare nipples

3. What's next?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

I am putting Cosgrove on my

I am putting Cosgrove on my "do not vote for" list...and Kaine will follow too if he signs this waste of time bill. Funny how they have time for this stuff but no time to figure out what to do about the roads!!!

Re BBINVB

I agree with a lot of your post & it certainly does display a certain amount of deductive reasoning. I would like to point out it's possible that your 300# hairy man could actually be "stranded" on the beach, due to his sheer girth, & unable to get up and cover himself, depending upon how tall he is.. Kind of like Ralphie's little brother in Xmas story when his mother overdressed him for the snow. However after the post "It Says Nothing About Stranding" in your comments..I have usually been taking your submissions at "face value" so to speak. To me personally, this post may be your only redeeming one, that I've read of yours, since prior to 03/08/2008. lol

When you get the chance

Look up some OLD ABC Laws still on the books for the Commonwealth of Virginia. You would be surprised who can and cannot drink, or even serve alcohol. These laws aren't currently being enforced, but they still can be.

The Degree of Covering Up Is The Only Difference

Men in extremist religions require that the women cover up from head to toe on the street and restrict women's movements in public. The men in these religions are enforcing modesty because they cannot control their urges. They justify their own shameful desires by making it "the woman's fault" that they cannot exercise self control. Furthermore, if topless dancers are such a threat to society, then it follows that there would be many more crimes at these establishments, which I haven't noticed in the newspaper's crime reports.

(By the way, General Assembly, take down that state flag too, oh ye of little self control.)

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