The Virginian-Pilot and PilotOnline.com from March 2-5 are presenting State of the Gun, a series on the laws and culture of guns in Virginia.
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Listen to 911 Tape
Go to the following website of a Pilot sister paper in Roanoke and listen to the 4 minute and 27 second tape (taken from a 13 minute 911 call) at http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/201127 Those without a gun and don’t believe in the value of self defense should seriously think about what they would do in such a situation. There were children in the house when this attack occurred. What would you do if such a thing occurred at your home?
How News Is Biased
What should be noted about this series is that there is information about “shooting sprees” but nothing is included about us using firearms 2.5 millions times a year for self defense; there is no information about specific examples about uses for self defense. (Kleck’s Point Blank: Guns and Violence in American, and Targeting Guns: Firearms and Their Control). Media claims to be unbiased, but this is one of the ways how they do it. They print factually truths but leave out other factual truths. They do this regarding a number of societal issues. This is one of the reasons people have stopped purchasing newspapers. We need balanced news sources. Unfortunately it is necessary to read a variety of sources to understand the complete picture.
Everyone Needs to Know 1, 2, 3
Everyone needs to know: 1. police have no duty to enforce restraining orders (Castle Rock, Colo., v. Gonzales, 04-278 - Supreme Court October 2004), 2. police have no duty to respond to 911 calls and provide individuals protection (Warren Vs. District Of Columbia, D.C. App., Atlantic Reporter, 2nd Series, Volume 444, p 1 – 12), 3. “... that citizens can depend on police for effective protection, is simply untrue ... the idea that modern police are so effectively in controlling crime that they have rendered citizen self protection obsolete is widely at variance with a large body of evidence that police activities have, at best, only very modest effects on crime (Point Blank: Guns and Violence in American, Dr. Gary Kleck, 1991, p 121).
Mix and Match
More guns for the criminals, more guns for the citizenry , more guns for the army, more guns for kids to play with, more guns for the nuts. A severe rescission. What a lovely mix.
Many of you are just going
Many of you are just going on and on without reseaching what your saying, Look up crime statistics since CCP/CHP/CWP have been allowed in each state. Every one of them will show you that crime has gone down. It will also so you that a very small amount if any in some cases are the ones commiting the crimes with weapons.
Pappy62 and other gun advocates
You don't want a discussion what you want is for everyone to agree with you. In no way are you going to change my mind nor do I expect to change yours. Sitting here bantering back and forth makes no common sense whatsoever, and it's a waste of time. None of you will have the final say on what direction gun contol bills will go in the future, and I don't need to justify anything to you or anyone else. My position on gun control will be stated with current elected officials and those running in up-coming election. You do as you please. BTW belittling others IS your forte. With some of you that's all you want to do. If I'm being attacked, you bet I will attack back, but I have a limit on such behavior then the discussion is over. Talk among yourselves!
I don't know why my "In Conclusion" comment was pulled. There was certainly nothing wrong with any part of it. What I would like to know is what warrrants a comment to be pulled. Maybe some day the VA Pilot will answer that question.
Still Trying To Help
Again trying to help you understand the Pilot’s comment rules. For example, they probably would pull a comment by someone else saying you might be in need of a clue holder. A clue holder is a device given to someone who doesn’t yet have a clue, but will need a place to put one if they ever have one. Many people who receive clue holders carry them empty throughout their lives. You will have to think about your comment to see if anything was in it that might violate their rules. I hope this is helpful.
The Rules
You should notice the: "By posting comments, you agree to abide by the following rules" statements that appear above the area where you write in your comments. Surely that will provide you with clues to why they pulled your comment. If I run across you when a criminal is trying to kill you and your loved ones, do you want me to use my gun to save your life or should I stand aside and watch? I don't want you upset with me for saving your life being as you don't believe in guns and self defense.
I repeat -
How many people here have looked up kennesaw Georgia?
Here it is in a nutshell. One of the LOWESTviolent crime rates, and murder rates in the nation!!!
How did it happen one might ask?
How about a law that all head of households are required to carry a gun, unless religiously against it, mental problems, or perhaps totally against guns.. Who wants to hold up a 7/11 when there are potentially half a dozen armed people waiting for you to turn your back..
Maybe the wild west wasnt so bad, at least people were polite! A lot more so that what I have been reading in these posts!
BTW, do I have a right to speak? Absolutely, I spent 10 years of my life in Submarine forces, willing to do what was necessary to protect these United States and the Constitution. That Constitution, and it's bill of rights, allows me to own and carry a GUN.
DonM, read the quotes I posted about 12 posts down
DonM, read the quotes I posted about 12 posts down, georges61555, like most of the other anti-gun folks, has tried more insults to make his point than facts.
I like your plan! I have no problem with a law like that.
As far as the "Depression can hit a man hard between 35 and.......", I would worry more about women going through menopause!!! :D
I think georges61555 has concluded his inputs, but I sure hope he/she is still reading them.