An inside look at expenses for a session to convene

Posted to: News State Government Virginia

RICHMOND

The white minivan pulled up to Commonwealth Passenger Terminal last week and four tired-looking men hopped out.

They grabbed their bags and overcoats from the trunk and paced the few feet to their private turbo-prop plane, avoiding all those layers of time-consuming security found elsewhere at Richmond International Airport.

Within minutes, they were ready for a $985-an-hour flight to Southwest Virginia.

These aren’t CEOs from the state capital. They’re Virginia lawmakers. Two senators and two delegates, to be exact.

Their jaunt home is just another example of the costs of convening a General Assembly session in Capitol Square.

The state pays more than $1 million a year to transport, house and feed the 140 members of the House of Delegates and the Senate each session.

The costs – estimated this session at more than $1.2 million – grow thanks to rising mileage reimbursements and per-diems paid to lawmakers traveling in from the farthest reaches of the commonwealth.

“I’m due south of Detroit, ” said Del. Terry Kilgore, R-Gate City, whose 5½-hour drive home takes him through Tennessee. “A lot of people don’t realize that.”

Actually, they do.

“Oh, yeah,” joked Del. Sal Iaquinto, R-Virginia Beach. “We’ve got it much easier.”

 The kitty for lawmaker spending isn’t endless, mind you.

Legislators get a set per-diem for the time they spend in Richmond. This year’s session is scheduled for 60 days. Every other year, the session is supposed to last 46 days.

In the House, for the second year in a row, the daily rate was $135 for housing and food, said Bruce Jamerson, the House clerk. In the Senate, where the per-diem has risen each year since 2004, it’s $169 , said Susan Clarke Schaar, clerk of the Senate.

There are no expense accounts and no receipts to submit. Lawmakers get their checks every week during floor sessions, Jamerson said. Mileage reimbursements are handled after the session. The money doesn’t count the roughly $18,000 salaries lawmakers receive, the $1,250 monthly allowance for district offices or any money for aides and staff.

Lawmakers say the money doesn’t go as far as it sounds.

“Even though you get a per-diem, it costs a whole lot more,” said Del. Charles Carrico Sr., R-Grayson. “By the time you rent a motel room, pay for your meals … it just kind of gets into a costly issue.”

Not that anyone would dare complain unless asked about it by a newspaper reporter.

“We volunteer for that,” said John Welch, a former delegate from Virginia Beach. “If anybody’s whining, tell them … go back home and enjoy your retirement.”

Both houses pay mileage for one trip home a week and that only applies to people who live at least 50 miles from the Capitol.

Those closer to Richmond get no mileage pay and – since they might not even need a hotel room – their per-diem check is taxed. Delegates and senators outside the 50-mile circle receive their money tax-free, a system governed by IRS guidelines.

Welch went home more than some others, he said, because he needed to earn a living as a chiropractor.

Del. Robert Marshall, R-Prince William, said he’s driven home every night for about 10 years, preferring to be in his district and with his family. It also means he can spend his weekly check on whatever he wants.

Gas is one option. His commute is 196 miles a day. A thousand miles a week. For nine weeks.

He doesn’t mind that he’s not in town for dinners with Richmond power brokers or the back-room social scene one political blog describes as “where legislators meet to smoke cigars and discuss policy.”

“I’m here to interact with citizens, not lobbyists,” Marshall said. “To the extent I miss that, I don’t miss anything.”

 

So the Richmond-area legislators have it easiest, right?

“It’s kind of like the grass-is-greener syndrome,” said Del. Dwight Jones, a Richmond Democrat who works as a Baptist minister in the city. “I wish I was away so I could do this job.”

That’s why Del. Jennifer McClellan, another capital city Democrat, took a two-month leave of absence from her job as an attorney for this year’s session. Between upcoming nuptials and the daily grind of the session, she “loves” going home every day.

Not to a rental in Shockoe Bottom – home to Sen. Ralph Northam, D-Norfolk – or a room at the Zagat-rated Jefferson Hotel, like Del. Harry R. “Bob” Purkey, R-Virginia Beach, booked.

“It’s a lot easier at the end of the day when you’re going home … instead of going back to a hotel room,” McClellan said . “It’s nice to sleep in your own bed.”

 

That brings us back to the plane. The commonwealth offers it as a service to legislators representing Southwest Virginia.

“They’re closer to … other state capitals out there than Virginia’s,” said Schaar, the Senate clerk. “If they drive every weekend, you’re barely home before you’re turning around again. They’re so far removed from Richmond.”

Flights home for legislators were grounded from 2004 through 2006, a casualty of tight budgets. They resumed last year, and, including last week’s takeoff , there have been nine in-session flights since, according to the clerks of both chambers.

The plane is a King Air 350, with room for nine people, if they bring luggage. It only flies when at least four delegates or senators request it. And only those Assembly members who live in Roanoke or west are eligible to board.

Lawmakers such as Del. Joseph Johnson Jr., D-Abingdon, who calls flying “the only way to go.” A longtime delegate, he didn’t run for re-election in 1969 because the commute was too much for a man with two young children. He didn’t come back until his children were grown, in 1990. “Then, we didn’t have interstate highways,” Johnson said. “It took me about 12 or 13 hours to drive to Richmond from Abingdon. Through all the small towns. Railroad crossing, you’d have to stop. Traffic lights, you’d have to stop. It was a slow go.”

Now it’s an hour’s flight.

Just not for Kilgore, the General Assembly member who lives farthest from Richmond, but is still more than an hour’s drive from Virginia’s western line.

Kilgore doesn’t use the state plane because he sits on a panel that meets Friday afternoons. So whenever that ends, he drives home in his new Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo – he traded in his old Jeep after two years and 130,000 miles.

Sure, he could get better mileage in something smaller, but …

“Comfort is primary,” he said. “That’s a long drive.”

 

Richard Quinn, (757) 222-5119, richard.quinn@pilotonline.com

COMMENTS ADVISORY: Users are solely responsible for opinions they post here; comments do not reflect the views of The Virginian-Pilot or its websites. Users must follow agreed-upon rules: Be civil, be clean, be on topic; don't attack private individuals, other users or classes of people. Read the full rules here.
- Comments are automatically checked for inappropriate language, but readers might find some comments offensive or inaccurate. If you believe a comment violates our rules, click the report violation link below it.

Yes, the same old stuff!

I wonder how the first group of state representatives managed. The job used to be nonpaying. In fact, it used to be as a privilege to represent your community. Today, do you believe these representatives aren’t gaining something from their position in the government beside communal respect? Just take a look at a large portion of the laws and how some of these laws benefit specific industries/individuals. Then look at the background of the legislators who introduced and pushed the legislation. If these individuals were gaining an advantage they wouldn’t put up with the criticism. Follow the money!!!

One thing I have learned about Virginia is that it has been a pioneer with respect to innovate ways to govern. Bicameral Legislature etc…and a large portion of the individuals responsible were uneducated slackers (by your definition), who would have had a difficult time working at Burger King, farmers for example.

Federal representatives, yes…what a scam!

So Sorry, rrc1943

But your analogy is totally wrong, however your subject line was exactly correct. Tobacco money had little or nothing to do with the killing of the smoking ban bills. Small business owners and average citizns, who are the employers of the legislature, had far more to do with the defeat of those property intrusion bills than the tobacco industry. In fact the tobacco industryin general ignores smoking ban bills, they just don't care.

As for the "gun lobby," once again the majority of that is made up of taxpaying citizens.

In short, the legislators listened EXACTLY to who they are supposed to be listening, the average resident of the Commonwealth.

silcnlayc - Thanks for proving my point.

You are criticizing actions of our FEDERAL CONGRESS, not our state legislature. Do you know the difference? Our Congress is a year-round, full-time institution that spends gazillions of dollars. Our state legislature is a part-time institution made up of people who have real jobs and homes back in their districts.

LET THE TRUE EMPLOYERS OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE PAY

The "representatives" don't represent the ordinary people of Virginia; they represent those who pay the most in bribes (euphemistically called "campaign contributions). Need an example? You need look no further than the recent shenanigans regarding the proposed smoking ban in restaurants. Once the tobacco industry money started to talk, the no-smoking bill died. The legislators showed that they were less concerned with the health of their constituents than they were with the fiscal health of the tobacco industry.

I say that since the tobacco and gun lobbies are the true employers of the state legislature, they should pay all the expenses.

Let's replace the state slogan "Virginia is for lovers" with the more accurate "Welcome to Virginia, owned and operated by the tobacco and gun lobbies."

Regardless of how you think the legislators perform...

That amount is really about on target. I have to travel in my job and I certainly don't expect to pay for it. Why should they? My company pays for the hotel and transportation and gas (either a rental car, company car or mileage) and I get $35 a day per diem. I can assure you that $35 doesn't go very far and often I end up paying out-of-pocket. I certainly can't eat fast food every day. My company's expense for 1 day is at least $200. Mileage reimbursement is regulated by the IRS, not the state. This has nothing to do with greedy lawmakers milking us out of tax dollars.

Jim Dillon, you are so off base..

"If you want a legislature to represent you, you have to pay for it."

When has the public EVER been represented? The only representation given is to the ones that have the big bucks..
Here's a classic example...over 2 million online players of poker and casinos voted no to the UIGEA...now I ask you, how was this passed?

It was "rammed" through (another representaatives words I might add)in the middle of the night attached as a pork bill to the Ports Security act that was a bill that couldn't be voted down by our wonderful senator that was best friends with Bush.

Now, I aks you, because so many citizens were against this, knowing this is an invasion of home (playing online for money in your own home)and passing without a voice for the public..how is this representation? The only time anything is passed during the 2 months is their pet projects.. Yes, I voted and yes, anyone getting into my home and telling me what I can do and can't do there is crossing the line IMO!

Look at their full time jobs

I'd rather see an article about where the legislators work and/or who they work for. Maybe add a paragraph or two about why their ethics policies don't restrict them from taking money from the same companies that then lobby the legislature. Why is it that once someone gets elected around here, they suddenly find employment with a big law firm? Maybe its time for full time legislators with real ethics policies.

What a waste!

This article comes one day after a friend on mine advises that the Virginia Beach Circuit Court's budget was cut approximately 10% for the upcoming fiscal year! Not only does that cut any possibility of a pay raise being added to their meager salaries but a pay cut since they will be "furloughed" 8 hours a month starting July 1, 2008!!! Absolutely garbage!

What a bunch of whiners

If you want the job, then run for it. Nobody will stop you, save the voters. Goes to show you that people will complain about anything.

sounds good but...

Yes the overall cost sounds low but....anytime you pay something and get NOTHING it's no deal...

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Please note: Threaded comments work best if you view the oldest comments first.

More articles from: News rss feed    State Government rss feed   


Toolbox


Partners

special features