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650-plus turn out to fight proposed OLF in Virginia

Posted to: Military News OLF Virginia

COURTLAND

Days after a band of committed farmers celebrated their defeat of Navy plans for a jet landing field in North Carolina, a group of Virginia residents turned out en masse to start a similar battle.

More than 650 people packed Southampton High School's auditorium Wednesday night to hear advice from Barry Steinberg, an attorney from Kutak Rock, a Washington-based firm.

Steinberg, a retired Army colonel, wasted little time in telling members of the audience what they wanted to hear.

"It's oversimplistic to say that we are in a fight with the Navy. We want to help the Navy solve its problems. But the solution to the Navy's problems is not in Sussex,

Surry and Southampton counties," he said to applause.

In January, four years after Washington County, N.C., filed a federal lawsuit against the Navy's plans for a landing field there, Navy Secretary Donald Winter took the North Carolina site off the table.

He designated five other sites - two in North Carolina, three in Virginia - for further study. Those sites were among more than a dozen recommended last year by the governors of the two states.

Winter's decision jump-started the nascent opposition to the Virginia sites.

Wednesday's meeting demonstrated how organized Virginians Against the Outlying Landing Field is. In the high school cafeteria, volunteers staffed tables to collect donations, sell red and white "No OLF" yard signs and hawk raffle tickets to raise money for the effort.

The group also distributed pages of contact information for elected officials to target with letters of protest.

Steinberg outlined the process that will unfold over the next three years: scoping meetings, a draft environmental impact statement, and then the record of decision on which site best provides for training squadrons of fighter jets from Oceana Naval Air Station in Virginia Beach.

Residents like Jim Hunnicutt said they resent the possibility of their homes' being affected because development in Virginia Beach and Chesapeake has rendered current facilities less than optimal for training pilots.

Hunnicutt bought a $5 sign to display on his 10-acre property in Sedley, about three miles from one of the proposed sites.

"We're getting dumped on," he said. "If we were getting the whole base - with the tax base and population and jobs - it would be one thing. There's no incentive. I don't particularly want it anywhere in

the area."

Steinberg told the crowd that not wanting the landing field isn't a strategy for fighting it.

"We've got to give them ammunition," he said, referring to congressional representatives with some power over military funding.

He advised residents to raise questions about every aspect of the project: How will county finances be affected from losing thousands of acres of taxable property? What would clear-cutting timber for the field do to the population of red-cockaded woodpeckers? How would paving an 8,000-foot runway affect flooding and drainage?

"Running to court is not the answer," Steinberg said. Instead, the community must build an administrative record so it has a case if it does sue later, after the Navy makes its decision, he said.

Steinberg also said the Navy's biggest issue isn't finding a landing field for Oceana's jets - it's pondering Oceana's future when the Joint Strike Fighter, or F-35, replaces the F/A-18 Super Hornet.

"The Navy ought to be looking at the bigger issue," Steinberg said. "Oceana has a problem that needs to be fixed."

The attorney finished his hourlong presentation with an abbreviated civics lesson.

"In a democracy, the will of the people counts," read his final slide. He urged the audience to reach out to state and federal elected officials.

"We don't live in the Soviet Union. We don't live in Red China," he said.

Responding to a question about the likelihood of winning against the Navy, Steinberg cited the Washington County group - a grass-roots effort that fought the field on environmental grounds, in court, and by attracting support from politicians.

"The Navy basically gave up," Steinberg said. "David, 1. Goliath, 0."

Kate Wiltrout, (757) 446-2629, kate.wiltrout@pilotonline.com

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SOY NOT OLF

What would the cost be in paving over the highly productive farmland that is currently managed by those who grow the food we consume? How would those farmers duplicate the wealth of food once that land is consumed by the OLF? Who is advocating for the farmers and ourselves, who rely on them for .... food? What is the economic cost of losing this farmland? This needs to be determined in order to counter the notion that the Mason OLF site is a desirable one to pave over with a landing field.

I wonder if the representatives/ politicians/ and other individuals drive the roads of the sites before their vote. One day out of their tenore to consider the real impact on lives of our commonwealth would go a long way in making a sound decision that represents the constituents who placed them in office. Drive those roads and look at the farmland. Get out of your car and listen. What do you hear? Let's keep it that way.

Battle Won......War Lost

No OLF......No airplanes (they will go where they can practice). No airplanes.....No aircraft carriers (they will follow the airplanes). No aircraft carriers.....No need for big ship yards (they will follow the carriers). No ship yards, no airplanes, no carriers......you get the picture. Everyone in this area (including the farmers) will suffer for that decision. Mind you, someone else will probably benefit. Anyone up for moving to Mayport?

I already have suggested the area I live in be considered.

I think the area I live in, or at least really close to would be appropriate for an OLF. I have no problem moving for the USN. They provide something that is very specialized. Extremely few men are talented enough to do their job. I live on one piece of land that has been in my family for years. I consider it a privilege to live here, not a right. As far as people losing jobs goes, my family has been through that a few years ago. We did just like the Ford plant workers, we transitioned. I know it isn't easy but it is possible.

I Must Be Missing Part Of This Story

So why in any of the stories I have read about OLF, hasn't Suffolk even been mentioned as a possible site for OLF. There is still a lot of space there...Have they found a way to "Head them off at the pass?" I mean you look at the map. VB & Chesapeake has a share, NC and regions west of Suffolk are being considered, but, not Suffolk itself, The proximity of the city, makes it seem like a far more logical choice geographically. Sorry citizens of Suffolk, not trying to make enemies, just wondering what I am missing. You obviously possess or have found a loophole for exemption...

I get so tired

of people always saying what is "patriotic" and what is "unpatriotic" when for so many, it's just talk. Ask yourself, what have you DONE to give back, to contribute to the nation, to share the load? I don't advocate anyone losing their home or land arbitrarily because some government official came in and took it. But this is NOT tyranny folks! The Navy has been absolutely cooperative in considering environmental concerns, community concerns, the emotional concerns of affected people. They are not trying to strongarm anybody. People are compensated, concessions are made. That's how it is done. The Navy, the NATION has a need. It is not US vs. THEM. They are us!!! When is it your turn to give, like these men and women have given? Good Lord, you all act like it's George III or Stalin at work here. Play a role in the nation, show some support, compromise, stop just occupying space.

Fight is right and the American Way

I'd fight the OLF if they tried to put it in my backyard. Standing up for yourselves is the American Way. You fight for what is right and in the end a decision is made then we all learn to live with the outcome. It's your right to stand up for your community as much as it is our right to ask you to support the OLF so the jets can remain in VB.

I love the Navy but the city has outgrown the airfield. As much as I love to see the jets in the air around VB, I'd have to say it is time to start moving them toward Cherry Point in phases... Just my 2 cents.

It's the Sound of Tyranny, Not Freedom

Eddie, when you're at sea, another carrier group will be practicing touch and go's. There is no end to it.

To those of you who support OLF's, how would you like it if your occupation as a farmer was cut short by the federal government? It's not about patriotism. It's about our occupations. We have farmed that land for years as our ancestors farmed it. The land has been passed down from generation to generation. Now the mighty federal government wants to come in and take it by eminent domain. Whatever happened to freedom? If we must give up our freedom for safety, soon, we will have neither.

Carolyn, maybe you should volunteer to give up your home for the OLF if you want it so badly.

We are a republic lawyer dudes

The attorney finished his hourlong presentation with an abbreviated civics lesson.

"In a democracy, the will of the people counts," read his final slide. He urged the audience to reach out to state and federal elected officials."

What's the difference? According to my Merriam-Webster:

Democracy — Government by the people; government in which the supreme power is retained by the people and exercised either directly (Ablsolute, or pure), or indirectly (representative).

Republic — A state in which the sovereign power resides in a certain body of the people (the electorate), and is exercised by representatives elected by, and responsible to, them.

O.K. folks,

not me but others in my county in NC don't want the OLF, the other county in NC doesn't want the OLF, you guys in VA don't want the OLF. So, who do you think is going to get it? We are being told by NC politicians that if the site chosen doesn't have "broad local support", it won't go there. Everybody can keep saying they think Va Beach should provide for it but there isn't a chance in this world a major recreational/tourist area is going to take down the buildings. It just isn't going to happen in the world we live in. So, who do you think is going to be the lucky winner out of the five sites.

Holding my sides

"I live out here and a little jet noise is a small price to pay for a well prepared military."

I do hope I meet you in person a year after this occurs(if it does). Your tune will change. When it happens non stop-day and night, your tune will change. A little? Is that what they call it now?

Harvey, I can get you one of those signs.

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