Hampton Roads home prices begin to show signs of slump

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When Tom Edwards and Cyndi Culpepper put a house in Port Norfolk up for sale last summer, they thought it would easily bring $330,000.

Edwards had bought the Victorian on Douglas Avenue in Portsmouth in rough shape for about $90,000 in 2004. He and his wife invested about $110,000 more to refurbish the place.

The house didn't sell. In February, the couple hired a new real estate agent who convinced them to drop the price to $291,000. Culpepper said she was reluctant.

The couple are like many Hampton Roads home sellers who have resisted lowering their prices as the local housing market slowed and values across the country dropped.

Through the first three months of this year, the median sale price of existing single-family homes nationwide fell 7.7 percent from the same time in 2007, according to the National Association of Realtors.

In Hampton Roads, the median price inched up 1.6 percent over the same period. But that increase hasn't held.

More recent regional data, through May, now show median sales prices down 1.1 percent from the first five months of last year. The median is the middle point - with half of all prices higher and half lower.

As sellers here have held out on price, the inventory of available homes has piled up.

The number of active listings across the region - including all Hampton Roads localities as well as outlying rural areas such as Western Tidewater, the Eastern Shore and northeastern North Carolina - climbed to 15,183 at the end of May, almost 11 percent higher than the same time last year, according to the Real Estate Information Network Inc., the regional multiple listings service. Current listings are almost five times the number in May 2004, when the local market headed toward its peak, said Vinod Agarwal, an economics professor at Old Dominion University, whose data includes a slightly smaller regional slice.

Listing prices for homes in Hampton Roads may be indicating more angst ahead for sellers. As of the end of May, according to REIN's data, the median price of active listings fell to $289,900, down more than 9 percent from $320,000 a year earlier.

Agarwal, a member of the university's Economic Forecasting Project, said he expects home sale prices to end up down by about 5 percent in 2008 from last year. "In our thinking, resellers of homes will sooner or later realize that if they want to sell their homes, they're going to have to lower their prices," he said.

 

Sellers' reluctance to come down in price isn't always about making more profit, real estate agents said. In many cases, it's about paying off what they owe.

Homeowners who bought at the pricing peak in Hampton Roads will want to cover their mortgages and still have enough for their next down payment. Others refinanced in recent years, taking on additional debt on the increased value of their homes to pay for upgraded kitchens, roof repairs or a new car.

Juliette Brown, a real estate agent for Nancy Chandler Associates, recently listed a home in the Olde Towne neighborhood of Portsmouth for $450,000. The owners bought it for $360,000 in September 2005, city assessor's records show.

They made many upgrades to the historic house and now, with a growing family, hope to earn enough to put down on a larger place, Brown said. Like other sellers, they cannot give too much on their asking price "because of what they already owe the bank or because of what they need to buy their next house," she said.

No matter their financial needs, sellers must face the reality of today's market if they want to move their properties, agents said. Many look back at a neighbor's sale two or three years ago and want to cling to those prices.

Brown said she bought her house in the Greenbrier area of Chesapeake in 1998 for $125,000. Four years ago, a neighbor's home sold for $375,000. A similar house nearby is listed now at $299,000, she said.

"It's hard for them to understand, to fathom, that it's different from a couple of years ago," Brown said.

They think, she continued, "My neighbor across the street made $100,000. I want to make $100,000 now."

 

Much in the housing realm has changed, though. The woes of the credit industry have led lenders to tighten criteria, leaving as unqualified many prospective buyers who would have received loan approval a few years ago. Banks today are more reluctant, for example, to write mortgages before applicants have sold their own homes.

When the market boomed three years ago, buyers couldn't be choosers. If the only house available at the right price in the desired neighborhood needed some repairs or sat on a busy street, that's the house a buyer took.

That's generally not an issue now. "If I have 15 houses to choose from, I'm not going to live on that main street," said Joyce Howe, an agent for Rose & Womble Realty Co. "There's a lot of good homes out there."

Keith Abernathy, one of Howe's clients, said prospective buyers in recent years couldn't find an available townhouse in the Sandie Point development in Portsmouth. He bought his condominium there in 1998 for about $150,000 and put it on the market in February 2006.

Listed at $300,000, the three-bedroom condo's appeal suffered when the housing bubble began to contract. Abernathy took it off the market for about six months over the winter 2007 holidays.

This spring, he relisted it at $279,000 and has since dropped it to $269,000. Now, Abernathy is offering other incentives: a home warranty, a year of paid condo fees and $5,000 in paid closing costs.

"There comes a point where you don't want to lower the price and bring the values down for your neighbors," Abernathy said, adding of Sandie Point: "It's one of the best-kept secrets in Portsmouth."

Back in Port Norfolk, Culpepper and Edwards recently told their agent that they would entertain offers as low as $250,000. The couple, who live across the street from their home on the market, has invested in a number of properties in Portsmouth.

"We buy, we rehab, we sell - well, we try to sell," Culpepper said. "Lately, we haven't been very lucky with the selling part."

Carolyn Shapiro, (757) 446-2270, carolyn.shapiro@pilotonline.com

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For the record...

Thanks to all that think I am a real estate agent but I am not. My comments are completely based on my experiences as a recent home buyer in this market. When faced with 20 similar houses to buy in April, I COULD have simply relied on price to buy but location, schools, travel distance to work, age of home, and amenities were all apart of the decision process. My housing choice was based on all my preferences and my budget. I think what was different for me this time was that two offers on two different properties fell through. On one, we were only off $1100 but the seller did not want to budge-which is his right. Maybe in another market, I would have found the extra money but instead I went to the next house on my list and was able to negotiate a sale.
Honestly, can you remember the last time Hampton Roads saw a buyer's market? I think many sellers don't realize how to sell in such a bloated market.

The Real Deal

This article feeds to fears and unsubstantiated rumors that drive an economy into recession. Like most journalism today, it is one sided and fails to deliever the news. News doesn't sell ad space; rumor, gossip and fear sell newspapers and therefore support ad space.

The real facts for Hampton Roads, are that the average household income cannot support a mortgage of more than $300K. As we all know, the local economy is based on the Government, the Military, and the infrastructure necessary to support those sectors. Jobs in those fields provide comfortable incomes, but not crazy lifestyles.

The people in this article were naive in their planning and put too much money into a home. Now the value created will be lost because the majority of the buyers are not going to be looking at homes above $300K in this area. Anyone trying to sell a home above $300K is going to fall into this same perdicament. However, houses below this threshold should maintain their value. (Unless, of course, journalist and uninformed bloggers continue to pollute the bandwith).

This is nothing new!

Gas prices are high... Why? The BRIC countries are growing at ridiculous paces and the dollar is weak. There are more folks who want it than there is supply to sell. Housing is no different! When the stock market fell apart (2000-2002), and rates were at 40 year lows, speculators, as well as normal home buyers, were shopping for the same commodity. There was not much in the way of supply, so prices climbed considerably! As far as the return on real estate, the average, as Ethan mentioned, is NOT much above inflation. The "real" return is rather small, but at certain times real estate can surge. The federal government basically forced banks into bad loans, and banks began to buy and hold ticking time bombs in their books. We can blame anyone we want, but fear and greed run all of these markets. Convince someone that they'll miss out on a "good thing", and they'll make stupid decisions. Convince someone that things are never gonna be the same, and I'll be buying whatever it is that "won't ever come back". Warren Buffett has it right. When folks are scared to death, I'm buying. When folks are greedy, I'm selling. As for making a buck, don't give house flippers a hard t

Killed my dreams of homeownership.

This artificial inflation has killed my dreams of homeownership. At least for a couple more years. Where is the criminal prosecution of the fraudulent loan providers and takes? And why in the world are we going to bail these crooks and idiots out?

IMO this free market of ours has been hijacked and our government and leaders allow this to happen. As the economy continues to die expect to see more urban crime and more scandalous dealing exposed.

ODU or Baobabs.....decisions, decisions.....

Baobabs said: "...But the real problem is that your ilk is completely incapable of admitting that the market conditions in Hampton Roads are better than those in most markets around the US...."

From Pilot writer Tom Shean today: "...The weakest sector of the regional economy remains home building, where the dollar value of permits for new single-family homes tumbled 25 percent from the January-through-April period last year, the ODU economists said..."

A 25% decrease in the stock market would be catastrophic. But it's no big deal in the housing market? Says who?

So who should I believe...Baobabs the probable new and used house seller, or ODU, an impartial center of learning? Decisions, decisions.

Too expensive to live here

People in this story are bellyaching because they won't make a 50% profit or $100 grand on top of what they owe? Cry me a river.

It's flat out obscene how quickly housing prices spiked around here. Now with gas at $4/gallon, moving out to Elizabeth City or other places is out of the question.

Can't afford housing here, and can't wait to leave...

Rents are supposed to be higher than owning!

Did you know that traditionally rents should be higher than owning? This is because when you rent, you make your landlord (funny term) come fix everything that is broken. So landlords have the burden of upkeep. It's only in the distorted market, with the notion that there are huge amounts of riches waiting after owning for 3 years. But I'm noticing something else. Recently constructed homes are garbage, rush construction to milk the money while it was good. Often criminals were using illegal labor. On top of this, appliance quality seems to have gone to garbage. Probably all made in China with very little QA. What's more, renters have freedom. They can easily leave if they dislike their neighbors, or get that fat job offer. So why the big rush to buy houses? They have a high carrying cost, that is, the maintenance. The instant riches and virgins promised by the Realtor isn't true in a sane market. They are illiquid in a sane market. They are just houses, easy to build, plenty of land for them... nothing special. Oh yea, people were trying to make up for the gap in their retirement savings and lack of increase in income with rising costs of living.

Adamc--a.k.a. cheerleader for Ethan!

Adam, dearest Adam. I do love your pessimism masquerading as "realism." Neat trick, really. You've been reading too many naysaying, doomsdaying blogs. That much is painfully obvious to everyone here.

But the real problem is that your ilk is completely incapable of admitting that the market conditions in Hampton Roads are better than those in most markets around the US. There is ample data out there if you care to look...e.g....local foreclosure rates, local appreciation/depreciation data in both month over month and year over year form, local current inventory data, local listing times, local sales price to listing price ratios, etc...etc.. Maybe you're not really interested in the facts. Or, maybe you're just confused. I doubt the latter; I fear that you know exactly what you are doing. You just loooove to glom onto any iota of negative, national data and then use the same to cast aspersions on the local market. The fact is that we in Hampton Roads have not seen the ultra-high level of oversupply relative to demand as have many, many other markets around the US.

Yes, you know very well that the truth is that the folks who bought in 2005/6 most anywhere in the US, who paid

stevem, most return for the buck

Stevem - mcmansion gets the most return for the buck. Huge tyvek wrapped box on a postage stamp of lot. Often times the builders use HOA to take care of the roads so they can make the roads smaller to squeeze more profit out of a neighborhood, and the homemoaners get stuck paying for the roads where neighborhoods with legal width city streets don't have this burden (both pay same amount of taxes). Realtor is a made up trademarked term to hide the true profession, new and used house salespeople. This has lead to a false trust of these salespeople, as some sort of financial adviser. The barrier of entry for Realtor is low, and most don't seem smart at all. It's fun to pick apart their stupid lines they say, and in other professions they would be in jail or loose license (guarantee of future returns). With the internet, we don't need Realtors and their 6% burden.

Who's deluded, Babs?

Simple economics would tell you that the gross disparity between home costs and rents indicate a serious problem with home prices. If you go back to a more sensible era (say, two decades ago) and look at the sort of loan a family with a $60,000 income could afford, it is obviously far different than the $300,000 McMansions that have flooded the market.

Your silly cheerleading that somehow housing in general, or specifically in this area, defies well-established rules of investment and economics regarding return on investment is rubbish.

Have a look at this chart:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/08/26/weekinreview/27leon_graph2.large.gif

There are still major market corrections on the horizon. This is just the beginning.

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