Passage of light-rail proposal met with awe

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You might call it "the little bill that could."

A proposal to study an extension of Norfolk's light rail line to near the Oceanfront somewhat unexpectedly passed the General Assembly during a largely fruitless transportation special session that ended earlier this month.

And it gained more steam in recent days when Gov. Timothy M. Kaine signed it into law.

"Miracle of miracles," the bill's sponsor, Del. Bob Tata, R-Virginia Beach, said with a laugh. "I'm tickled pink."

Within 90 days of taking effect in November, the bill directs state and regional transportation officials to begin a study of the project. Money for that has not been identified, nor have project costs been determined. There is $15 million available from the state to help buy the right of way needed for the line.

So while the bill is only a first step in the process of stretching a light rail line into Virginia Beach, it is an important one in a city whose voters and politicians rejected light rail less than a decade ago.

Mayor Meyera Oberndorf called Kaine's endorsement a "pleasant surprise." "It looks like he is making a commitment to this region," she said.

Councilman John Uhrin, who represents the city's resort area, said a study will go a long way to answering the unknowns about light rail, including the cost, the route and whether rail is the best form of mass transit.

"The time is right for the city and the state to take another look at what the pros and cons are of that corridor," Uhrin said.

Hampton Roads Transit Vice President James Toscano said the bill helps advance "the needed discussion in Hampton Roads about the value of light rail, and potentially its expansion."

The Virginia Beach extension is envisioned as a 10-mile stretch from Newtown Road at the Norfolk border to the Virginia Beach Convention Center.

It would connect to The Tide, Norfolk's $232 million rail project that will run 7.4 miles from Eastern Virginia Medical Center to Newtown Road after its planned 2010 opening.

Securing federal money for mass transit can be challenging, but tying into The Tide may help the cause, said Robert Matthias, an assistant to Virginia Beach's city manager.

"The good news is it's easier to get federal funding for extension of an existing line," he said. "The bad news is it's a lot of money... and the cookie jar is fairly empty."

Julian Walker, (804) 697-1564, julian.walker@pilotonline.com

Richard Quinn, (757) 222-5119, richard.quinn@pilotonline.com

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Henry has a crush on me - its cute.

Glad to see you are so taken with me Henry! LOL!

It's a start . . .

Let's see how well Norfolk does with its effort. The LRT system can be added to: it doesn't have to be built all at once, even though it would most likely be cheaper that way. Lines going from EVMS up to ODU and then on to the Naval Base would be great. Even better would be to have an elevated line that does follow I64 with a definite branch line going directly to the airport - I can see a lot of people using that. Branch lines could be created going out to the VB TCC complex and amphitheater then down to the court house. Others could be added going up Great Neck. The trick is to get the lines to where the people go to and from and placing the stations correctly. And there's another big benefit: fewer cars on the road mean less air pollution. It could turn out to be a win - win situation for all of Hampton Roads.

Further down

You refer to the Navy base and Transportation relief.

OK, and?

I stated the voters selected no to LRT due to the poor decisions of norfolk and HRT in the choice of a "starter" line. What does that have to do with the statements you claim the VM has made?

Oh Really?????

According to aalto, "200+ years ago the citizens of the United States voted to give the citizens of VB the right to vote against light rail."

Hmmmm..... I wasn't born but I had no idea light rail was even an issue in Virginia Beach 200 years ago......

re: aalto

Reread what you said about the Navy base in your "Unfortunately No" post.

Back to the facts...

Henry, You blasted me ... I quote "2. Your comment about redevelopment is flat-out wrong", yet I provided documented proof that both the chairman of HRT and the President/CEO state LRT is for economic development. Why do you change topic?

Yea so?

What is the position of VB council then?

Does the VM speak for the city now?

Is that the "official" position of VB?

Is VB looking to spending over $230+ million of tax dollars to "generate economic development" as norfolk states?

Vice Mayor Louis Jones

On at least two occassions has stated that Virginia Beach should not build light rail without the Naval base and ODU.

Statement of fact

http://www.ridethetide.com/pressroom/newsletter/Newsletter_Norfolk_LRT_April_2003.pdf

A word from Chairman Randy Wright (norfolk councilman) "Generate economic development at key sites and serve as a catalylst for increased growth among business"

No where does he state anything about reducing traffic congestion.

Per Michael Townes, President/CEO of HRT "enhance the continued development and redeveopment of the city of norfolk" (just norfolk? #1 priority)

Not once in that press release does either of the "leaders" of HRT say anything about reduction of traffic congestion.

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