If we go strictly by the numbers, even ignoring the riveting drama he's brought to the Beijing Games, Michael Phelps is the greatest Olympian of all time.
In America, we tuned in each night to watch him win eight gold medals and make the biggest splash in the history of the Summer Games.
But if everyone eagerly agrees that he's the "greatest Olympian," does it automatically follow that Phelps is the "greatest American athlete of all time"?
I don't think so.
It's inevitable that discussions about the "best" and "greatest" would spring from Phelps' performance. On radio and the Internet, at the water cooler, this is a conversation starter, and a welcome subject of debate for anyone exhausted by the Brett Favre saga.
It's also a waste of time.
No question, Phelps is the athlete of the year. Not just in America, to the world.
But taking nothing away from the Baltimore whirlwind, the identity of the "greatest athlete" shouldn't hinge on who is the biggest celebrity at the moment.
Besides, arguing over who is or was the greatest is a meaningless exercise, and not only because the sports landscape is broad and diverse. It's just that everyone's definition of exceptional athleticism differs so much.
For instance, I'm biased toward athletes whose talent involves a ball, hand-eye coordination and some sort of running and/or jumping.
By that definition, the members of the U.S. men's Olympic basketball team are superior athletes to Phelps, though none will resonate with the world the way our best swimmer has.
Phelps is fortunate to participate in a sport that makes available to the hardiest and boldest eight or nine gold medal-winning opportunities, whereas the nature of track and field limits even the best all-around runners and jumpers to four or five events.
Judging strictly by athleticism and versatility, couldn't you make the case that the best athletes at the Olympics are the decathletes? Can you name one off the top of your head? Neither can I.
Phelps will be the world's most famous champion until he returns the title to Tiger Woods. But as a golfer, Tiger is disqualified from any serious "greatest athlete" debate. C'mon, now. At the U.S. Open, Woods won a playoff over 45-year-old Rocco Mediate. How many 45-year-olds are in the Wimbledon draw? Or playing in the NFL? How many 40-year-olds did Phelps have to beat to win a gold medal?
Tiger is the "greatest" lots of things as long as you don't add the word "athlete." He's going after Jack Nicklaus' record for career majors, but those of us of a certain generation remember that Nicklaus won some of the biggest tournaments when his nickname was still "Fat Jack." Golf, in other words, has never demanded world-class fitness.
Many would ask Lance Armstrong to pose in the group shot of "greatest athlete" candidates. I would, too, if Lance had navigated the Tour de France while dribbling a basketball.
While his name is barely mentioned these days, wasn't Bo Jackson - who created a stir in the NFL and in Major League Baseball - as great an athlete as America has produced in the last half century?
If we've forgotten Jackson, it's because Bo didn't know records. His relatively brief careers left few lasting marks.
But numbers crunchers shouldn't be allowed to hijack a Greatest Of All Time discussion. Hank Aaron hit more home runs than Willie Mays and Barry Bonds overtook Aaron, but Mays is baseball's GOAT.
Who says? Well, I do.
You're welcome to disagree. There are no right answers, only talking points.
I started by saying that any attempt to identify America's best or all-time greatest athlete is a fool's errand, and then I wandered into the very trap I warned against.
Feel free to follow.
Bob Molinaro, (757) 446-2373, bob.molinaro@pilotonline.com





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Mark twine
The only political ax I'm grind is the fact that the media too often concentrates on one person and not the group. As in this case Phelps is the hero, and yes he is, but there are so many other athletes who are worthy of media coverage.
Hey Gertz
I understand that you're just looking for another place to grind your political axe, but isn't Bob a member of the media?
What happened Bob? Didn't you get the Phelps-only message from the Liberal Media Control Center?
ROGLOL
Ray......
Tiger won a four day golf tournament after playing the entire round with a torn knee ligament and two fractured bones in his leg.
Your point about John Daly is well taken, but in reality I meant those upper tier golfers who compete at the top level.
Fitness is indeed a part of the golf game at that level.....
Huh
To RobertG: You mean golfers like John Daly, -- and there are more on the course that are just as bad looking as him. Real athletes play golf to relax. That's why you have all the promotional tournaments. I haven's seen any golfers joing any major sport to show off their skills. I suspect that there are some golfers that were or are good athletes. They just need a better platform to show off their skills. As far as acclaiming Tiger a top athlete, he's got to show more skill that what I've seen on the golf course. You can go to any gym to see well built with their shirts off. That doesn't make them great athletes.
news media, phelps, obama
The News Media is treating Michael Phelps the same way the did Obama. Not trying to take anything away from Phelps, but there are more athletes making history then just him, just like with Obama, he was not the only candidate running for president, but that's all we saw.
And about present day golfers.....
Ever wonder why there's a fitness trailer at EVERY PGA event?
Ever seen Tiger with a t-shirt on?
Yep, he's HUGE!!
The "better" golfers of today have more to do with fitness than good old Fat Jack....
Of course then your "Kerry-like" article wouldn't have the same draw with the facts now would it?
Swimming isn't so easy.......
Just because it doesn't involve a ball you seem to disavow Phelp's achievements?
I'm no swimmer, but hey Bob have you ever tried to swim just ONE length of that pool?
Yes certainly Lance's achievements were unbelieveable, yet in your world with no ball even he is suspect.
What is sad is that the U.S. sends NBA caliber players to compete and then you marvel at their success.....
What a joke..... When I've heard where you swam but one length in the pool, I'll consider your argument viable.
Until then maybe you can write about what a great athlete some Redskin was......LOL!!
hidden in the shadows
Hidden in the shadows is the women's swim team. Phelps has been great, but he isn't the only athlete at these games making history.
Decathaletes
Heartily agree with Bob's column. Decathaletes are largely ignored when considering the worlds best athletes. Golfers don't even belong in the conversation; they should be compared with bowlers, ballroom dancers, synchronized swimming and diving, -- oh you get the idea. Another athlete largely ignored when talking about great athletes is how great an athlete Wilt Chamberlain was. In addition to his basketball accomplishmetns, he was a decathalete at Kansas; he ran a sub 50 440 yard dash, high jumped 6'"11, among other accomplishments. He was also a world class volleyball player. That and the fact that he was forced to delay his entry into the pro game until his college class graduated is largely ignored when comparing his records to today's pro players.
Bob, thanks for pointing your finger at Bo Jackson; what an athlete.
All-Time Greatest Athlete
I'll never take anything from the great and personable Phelps but don't forget Jim Thorpe!