The Virginian-Pilot
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VIRGINIA BEACH
When Michael Phillips was gunned down in an undercover operation last week, he became the second local detective to be killed investigating suspected marijuana dealers in the past seven months.
The deaths have sparked debate about the enforcement of marijuana and other drug laws, with some activists arguing that continuing the war on drugs is just bad policy.
Others, including many local officials, say the killings confirm the dangers surrounding the drug trade.
“From the perspective of Mike Phillips’ widow, I’d say we’re worse off fighting the battle,” said state Sen. Kenneth Stolle, a former Virginia Beach police sergeant and undercover
officer. “From Mike Phillips’ perspective the day he was killed, I’m sure he felt it was a battle that needed to be fought, that the benefits outweighed the risk.”
“Drugs,” Stolle said, “are about the most evil thing in the community that I know of right now.”
A federal law enforcement official who works in Hampton Roads said that crack cocaine is the most frequently seized drug in this area.
Marijuana is the most used illegal drug in the nation and in the state, federal data show, but local authorities say they have not unduly focused on it.
Chesapeake Police Chief Kelvin Wright said marijuana and other drugs contribute to problems in society, particularly dangerous activities.
“It’s what I call the unholy trinity: guns, violence and drugs,” the chief said. “They all seem to go hand-in-hand.”
Portsmouth Commonwealth’s Attorney Earle Mobley said most drug dealers don’t just sell one substance. Instead, investigators often find a marijuana dealer to be involved with cocaine, heroin or Ecstasy, he said.
“Because there’s an element of violence that is connected with the distribution of drugs,” he said, “it just requires an aggressive prosecution of all of the offenses. …
From where I sit and where I see things happening, not to fight that fight would send the wrong message.”
But there are those across the country who think it’s a battle not worth fighting.
Peter Christ, a retired New York police captain and co-founder of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, said hearing of the deaths of Phillips in Virginia Beach and police Detective Jarrod Shivers in Chesapeake in January “breaks my heart.”
“These are my brothers and sisters in law enforcement,” he said. “I know what they’re going through. We’ve sent them off into this dangerous world, and we’ve made it more dangerous rather than making it safer.”
Phillips was shot three times in the torso as he attempted to buy a half-pound of pot in a parking lot in Green Run on Aug. 7. Two suspects, Ted Vincent Carter, 23, and Marshall Demetrius Moyd, 26, have been charged with first-degree murder in the killing.
Shivers was gunned down on Jan. 17 while serving a warrant to search a home suspected of containing marijuana. Ryan David Frederick, then 28, faces capital murder charges.
“What’s at the root of these deaths isn’t shoddy police work,” Christ said. “The root of these deaths is bad policy.”
Christ, who helped co-found the national group six years ago, noted that officers are sworn to uphold the laws and should continue to do that. But, he said, he and the more than 1,000 current and retired law enforcement officials in his group support a policy that would regulate, legalize and tax all illicit drugs.
Their view goes beyond that of NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.
“I look at this as a prima facie discussion about why laws should change,” Allen St. Pierre, NORML’s executive director, said of the local officers’ deaths. “And I’m going to presume those that enforce the law will point to this as why they need to redouble their efforts.”
Pilot writers Kristin Davis, Janie Bryant, Duane Bourne, Jaedda Armstrong and Tim McGlone contributed to this report.
Shawn Day, (757) 222-5131, shawn.day@pilotonline.com

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when did this become a forum for personally belittling one another.there are a lot of good and valid points being made here.with the way law enforcement deals with drug problems i think there should be a risk factor equation put into the workings a safety factor.i will add this and i must say first i don't do any sort of illegal drug and haven't since i was a teen,but i think if it were a choice between one of my children driving home from any sort of bender i would rather them be high on marijuana than drunk from alcohol.which goes back to prohibition days,and it is the same argument a percentage of people are going to do illegal things regardless.which one kills more?i am very sorry for this slain officer,i did not know this man but he gave his life for what he believed in.may god bless and be with each and every one of our servants,be they military law enforcement or fire department.
Herodotus and George . . .
Okay, I apologize to George, understanding that I was not clear in my statement that he could not convince me of his views because he was trying to do it with words that seemed provocative and like a personal attack. If you (Herodotus) took my statement to be a personal condemnation of him, it is possible that he or others did that. Thanks for pointing that out, as I do not have a goal in life of trying to shame or personally insult anyone. If George is made in the image of God and God loves him, then it is not my job to treat him in any way other than a loving way.
Views are fair game--we are obviously allowed to disagree with them. But my goal is, and always has been to do that politely. I failed and ask your forgiveness (George). Cheers, MGM
I never called YOU ignorant.
I was referring to a certain statement. You should follow your own advice:
"We don't know you and we certainly can't judge you. But judging the quality of your writing and logic is fair game! In fact, it is what you sign up for when you send something to the Pilot (I have had the same experience--just develop a thick skin, okay?). Cheers, MGM"
you know what...
im willing to bet if we were all stoned right now, there wouldn't be any name calling...just a lot of hugging....hahaha....i kid, i kid...
Mary
You are rationalizing your behavior. I'm sure George is rationalizing his.
It's no wonder you people behave the way you do. It's always the other person's fault.
Herodotus . . .
Check out my previous sentence. I referred to his rudeness and insults, then said his words/behavior would not convince me to change my mind on the issue at hand. There is a huge difference between telling someone his rudeness and insults are a total turnoff and attacking the person himself. Presumably he can make a choice to be rude and insult someone or to be civil. That is not a personal trait. Attacking someone for a personal trait which he could not change would, indeed, be unconscionable. Cheers, MGM
You help create this environment
The regular posters to this website attack each other all day, as if insults make their opinions stronger instead of irrelevant.
Tell me Mary, how does writing "In fact, if you are an example of an average person who uses marijuana, you have just proved my case for staying far away from it," make you any better than George? How do you take the moral high ground with that?
I am not defending George, who frequently sinks into the verbal cesspool so many posters here enjoy, but what I really want to know is where are the editors for all of you?
George
So far, friend, you have called me ignorant and lacking in reason approximately three times in the last three days.
Notice I don't do that back to you? Wonder what that is called? Could it be manners, as well as following the posting guidelines?
Now, if you could convince me of the virtue of mind-altering substances, which you cannot, you would not be successfully doing that by rudeness and insults. In fact, if you are an example of an average person who uses marijuana, you have just proved my case for staying far away from it, by your attitude towards others on this website. I don't like people who think they are better than others, no matter what their politics are. Cheers, MGM
Comparing cannaibis smoking to tobacco smoking is ignorant.
Tobacco is more addicting than heroine. No wonder people line up outside Walmart to fix their Jones. You assume that tobacco and cannabis create the same behaviors. You have confused rationalization with reason.
Absurd reasoning, michaelc
The defining characteristic of any civilized society is the protection of its members. Murder, robbery, etc, are all crimes against people, with a well-defined victim and aggressor.
The prohibition against murder and theft are also accompanied by clear moral imperatives - "thou shall not," etc.
Your suggestion that the cultivation of a plant, or smoking it in private for one's own recreation, is in any way comparable to murder or robbery is simply ridiculous.
And do you really want to bring up automobile accidents? Have you seen any statistics regarding alcohol-related automobile accidents? Do you really believe you will have any moral high ground going that route?