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Maybe the people who came to a community forum last week got through to the Virginia Beach City Council on the importance of light rail to the city's future.
Maybe Councilman Ron Villanueva hit home when he said city leaders need more political will to make controversial decisions on development. Whatever the reasons, on Saturday, after two days of consensus- building, the council summoned up enthusiasm for putting a light rail line along the city's midsection.
It agreed that a top priority for the next year will be extending Norfolk's starter line, which will end at Newtown Road. The council now is on record favoring its extension to the Oceanfront, as well as to Old Dominion University and the Norfolk Naval Station. It's not a formal, official vote, but it's the next best thing, expressing the sense of the council. This is a positive change for a city whose prosperity has been fueled for the last four decades by cheap land and gas. It gives the city staff a green light to move aggressively into a planning stage that could last for years.
Since voters rejected light rail in 1999, council members have been squeamish to endorse The Tide as a transportation priority. They consistently hedged on what would be built on the Norfolk Southern right of way, assuming the city bought it. A commuter rail was certainly a possibility, but maybe a bike path would be better, they said, or perhaps a more developed bus system.
On Saturday, Councilman Jim Wood cut through the weeds and said what has needed to be said for years. Light rail or mass transit, "we can call it whatever we want," he said, "but we've got something that stops at Newtown Road, and it doesn't make sense to start something else."
But recognizing the obvious and overcoming the obstacles for getting The Tide from Newtown Road past Town Center to the Convention Center will require a commitment that must endure years of controversy and political ups and downs.
n Money. Virginia Beach and Norfolk Southern "continue to be a long way apart" on the cost of the right of way, City Attorney Les Lilley said. An environmental impact statement, which will address ridership, costs, subsidies and alternative transportation methods, will cost $2 million. Construction of the 11-mile route will cost hundreds of millions and require tens of millions from the state and federal governments.
n Legal issues. The city can't condemn the property until Norfolk Southern has abandoned the right of way, and that can't happen as long as the courts are still deciding ownership of a critical piece of it.
n Politics. As popular and as inevitable as light rail has become, significant pockets of opposition remain. Rather than shut down the skeptics, the council must start answering them and laying out the case for the kind of new transportation and redevelopment policies that will be needed to sustain the city's prosperity across the next four decades.
Now, the job is to get citizens on board. A good opportunity presents itself on Sept. 16 at the Convention Center. The council and Hampton Roads Transit host a town hall-type meeting on the future of transportation in Virginia Beach. It provides the council a splendid opportunity to start making the case.

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Think in 4D
What pays for mass transportation. It has been said that all transits are paid for in subsidies, so then you have some who say they don't want it paid for by their taxes. But the truth is that while bus/train fair don't pay for itself. Real estate taxes gained from transit oriented development (TOD) are what ACTUALLY pay for the light rail. Look at DC's metro. Development has occured in waves, centering around the metro's stops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_oriented_development this like shows real pictures of the development in DC. Let's understand that this area is going to expand...we can either embrace it in TOD or expect VB council to extend the green line to allow for more suburban sprawl into pungo. Only adding to the strain on our roads!!
HB 3202 & the 6 MPO projects are not a "solution", they are pork
[sig] - once again Mike, the 6 MPO projects that you and your pals in the Hampton Roads Partnership keep pushing are NOT the commuter traffic congestion relief we locals are looking for. That "regional plan" is mostly a plan to benefit certain targeted business interests. It does not offer any meaningful solution to the many unmet transportation NEEDS our citizens want to have dealt with. DEMOCRATIC Governor Kaine failed to offer a better plan for our region too. He passed the buck and simply stated that whatever the MPO decided, that was what he would support. There is a lot of blame to go around for the mess we now find ourselves in, but it is guys like you and the business lobby who are most to blame for the gridlock we citizens now suffer with.
The argument can be made by
The argument can be made by citizens about something being done about transportation, however, the disagreement lies in what transportation projects were to be built and HB3202. I attended most every HRTA meeting that was held in the Tidewater area and can vouch for the disenchantment expressed by the majority of the folks in there about HB3202 and the HRTA that it created as well as the bogus MPO projects that were in there. BTW, you can't tell me that politics aren't partisan. Otherwise there wouldn't be as much lobbying in Richmond by the business community. And it still goes back as to what side your on as to "who in the district is put first" That's pure rubbish Mr. Barrett. For the record, I don't believe in representative democracy. That is business lobbists in a coat and tie. I believe in a representative republic and a republican form of government guaranteed under Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.
Well the candidate who beat
Well the candidate who beat Welch supported funding a transportation solution. Perhaps you can make the argument that he lost the support of his base, but in the end, the citizens showed that they want a solution, and Welch was just too clearly identified with the republican leadership that has blocked a solution. I agree that gerrymandering has been done by both parties, but I still support a solution that puts us, the citizens of a district, first, not partisan politics. The business community strongly supports the creation of a commission to design the districts subject to a final vote by the Legislature. The current system has essentially disenfranchised many of us who actually believe in representative democracy.
John Welch
Oh I totally disagree. John Welch lost his seat because because he supported HB3202. He took a lot of flack from a lot of folks (including me) at the first HRTA meeting at Hampton Convention Center and any other HRTA meeting he showed up at.
So you wouldn't consider yourself a "credible candidate"? Anyway, as for redistricting, democrats are just as guilty of gerry-mandering the lines as the republicans. They are two wings on the same bird. All of these delegates follow their party line and who works or refuses to "work for us" depends entirely on your political philosophy. Democrats have been consistant on tax and spend into oblivion and republicans like to borrow and spend into oblivion. So vote Libertarian where government who governs least governs best.
Not exactly.
I am not sure to whom you refer. John Welch lost because he did not support transportation before he decided to do so. And a number of NOVA republicans lost because of their opposition to funding transportation. Fact is, I believe the majority of Virginians would vote out of office most delegates, but of course, there needs to be a credible candidate in opposition. Regretfully, because of the inane system of redistricting, we have created a system whereby most incumbents end up with a lifetime appointment so we deserve these delegates who follow the party line and refuse to work for us. That said, I believe that a number of anti tax delegates will lose next November, and then we will have redistricting for which I hold hope that the system will be changed.
Mike Barrett - Candidate for the Virginia HOD?
Well Mr. Barrett, you still haven't answered my question. You continue to blame the republicans for their "irresponsibility" and continue to complain about it. Fact is that a few republicans lost their seats for going along with HB3202. Besides being ruled unconstitutional, it was a wake up call for them. Again you have it in your power to vote for the candidate of your choice or run for office yourself. I think you should do the latter. Don't you think that if the public is dissatified with their elected leaders that they will vote them out? You don't give the public very much credibility. When a majority of the public gets tired of it, they'll change it. I also believe that it was "your" interests that were once again subjugated, not necessarily the rest of us.
Thanks for the vote of
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Keith. Of course, you can make this as personal as you wish, but of course many of our local delegates pledged to vote to increase taxes and fees to fund our transportation needs, yet after the republican get together at the Homestead just before the special session, they received their marching orders that reportedly made clear that any delegate that broke ranks would head up the doggie patrol at the capitol. So all the work went for naught, and our interests were once again subjugated to the Grover Norquist No Tax Pledge, a pledge that guarantees that delegates who have signed it cannot work for us. We need new delegates; it is really that simple, and since our present crew can be whipped into silence by Bill Howell, why would anyone vote for them?
Run Mike Run!
Well, Mr. Barrett, again you place blame on Speaker Howell and the republican HOD for not doing what is in the best interest of Mike Barrett. Yet the man still retains his seat as well as his post as speaker. Therefore, I will say it again. When are you going to submit your papers as a candidate for the HOD? Go ahead and run on that platform for higher taxes and fees for those who struggle to put gas in their cars and get to work or blocking attempts for Virginia to get it's own energy resources off it's own coast. A member of the HOD is a part time job. As a CEO, I'm sure you could get the 45 days (or 60 in some cases) in January to be in Richmond and bankrupt the rest of us so that your HR buddies would be happy and richer.
Ken, we don't need the $4.4B 3rd Crossing - the port wants it
Ken, we do not need the massively expensive 3rd Crossing, the port wants it because the port wants to expand and it will serve their new trucks they desire to dump onto our highway system. We have far greater REAL NEEDS then that boondoggle. The "new" RT 460 is also mostly pushed to support moving more trucks in and out of the port. What we, those of us that live here, NEED is traffic congestion relief. The MPO plan isn't it. It never was. Once again, I offer you facts. You choose to ignore them. The HRPDC stated that in 2021, with all 6 projects completed our region's highways would have 670 lane miles of LOS E-F (severe congestion). Yet, in 2021 if we did not build the 6 MPO projects we would have 670 lane miles of LOS E-F - the same severe congestion. Face it, the MPO plan was not a solution.