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Hampton Roads legislators explain votes against bailout

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Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Chesapeake

Forbes voted early in the 30-minute roll call and then closeted himself with a group of other lawmakers in the nearby offices of House Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland, among the bailout's most prominent supporters.

There was no arm-twisting, he said. The group, members of the Congressional Prayer Caucus, were "praying for the country, Democrats and Republicans."

Forbes said his vote was motivated largely by concern that the plan would not restore confidence to the financial markets. A better solution, he said, may be to increase federal insurance to bank depositors.

In both parties, "most of us just want to make sure," Forbes added. "We realize we need to do something. We're prepared to stay here as long as we need to do it, but this is just too important for us to get it wrong."

Rep. Thelma Drake, R-Norfolk

Drake limited her comments to a three-paragraph written statement. She said her vote against the bailout was a rejection of "the false choice" its supporters offered of "doing this plan or doing nothing to solve the economic crisis."

Drake said Congress should be ordered back into session after the Rosh Hashanah holiday solely to focus on alternative proposals.

"A real solution to this problem will put the taxpayers first, require Wall Street to pay its fair share, and will address the root causes of this crisis," Drake added. She declined to answer questions.

Rep. Bobby Scott, D-Newport News

Scott issued a statement calling the bill better than the Bush administration's original proposal but "not a good deal for taxpayers."

It should have included help for homeowners struggling to pay their mortgages and provisions guaranteeing that the federal government would pay no more than the "fair value" of any securities purchased from troubled firms, he said in an interview. Without that, some assets would be bought at inflated prices, saddling the taxpayers with a loss, he warned.

To those who fear the bill's defeat means Congress may do nothing, Scott said, "They should be more afraid we might start buying $700 billion in assets and not know what we're buying."

Rep. Rob Wittman, R-Westmoreland County

Wittman, whose district covers much of the Peninsula, said he voted no largely because of reservations about having the government purchase privately held securities.

Wittman said he was concerned that the Treasury might pay more for some securities than they're worth. He would have been more sympathetic to an approach that provided some form of federal insurance for troubled securities without having the government actually purchase them.

Rep. G.K. Butterfield, D-Wilson, N.C.

The plan was "too risky and gives away too much without any guarantees that the problems will be corrected," Butterfield said. "While people talk about stabilizing the markets, we should be focused on stabilizing families and our rural communities."

Rep. Walter Jones, R-Farmville, N.C.

Jones, whose district covers the Outer Banks, did not issue a statement explaining his decision.

Dale Eisman, (703) 913-9872, dale.eisman@pilotonline.com Why local representatives voted "no" to the bailout plan:

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mccain on tv

McCain has been on tv today proclaiming how great his leadership has been in getting the Senate to pass the bill.

Poor befuddled, self-deluded McCain thinks he is a leader.

So anyone remember the Fannie/Fred Mac Debates of yor

Yes the ones in 2003, 2004, and 2005 where we were warned this would happen. But Barney Frank, Dodd, and others noted there was NOTHING TO WORRY about and nothing bad would happen. Why? Political KickBacks.

The Repubs noted that we would be on the hook if we did not regulate them. Even McCain stated that they needed more regulation in 2005. But the Dems blocked it stating nothing was wrong with them.

Now had the shoes been switched you would have the news in an uproar over this but since it was the Dems, it gets pushed aside as a passing mention. Published toward the end of a broadcast or report as an after thought.

We do need change, we need a change of Congress again with people who are not full time Lobby Taking professionals.

Actually Keith

The idea that a person can guide a block of people to vote against the citizens wishes is worse. McCain has a history of not voting w/ his party. I believe he appreciates the tone as well. No one wants this bail out. It is a tough line to take. Like they said multiple times, at the end of the day they have to answer to the voters. Not everyone can behave as a mindless zombie and follow their 'dear leader' the chosen one. Some of us have no choice except to allow brain activity to flow unfettered.

No to Bailout No to Rescue No to Socialism

Enough of the B.S. from our leaders.
A rescue is not needed. Why reward buisness that is unsound and continues to make bad decisions. Buisness and Investments have risks, it is not the goverment's responsibility to cover all bets !
This is GREED ! This is Politicians protecting thier own personal investments and catering to the big boys in Wall Street.
Any buisness that needs to borrow money in order to make payroll will fail ! A free Market will work itself out. Buisnesses that made smart moves will continue to prosper.

For a goverment to rescue only certain buisnesses is Facism !
a 401K should not be more important than Liberty.
Our leaders are ignoring the public outcry against this !
This rescue/bailout plan is far worse than anything King George did to us. In one week Free Amercia became a Socialist Country .
This is one of the saddest moments in American History.
And to think my father and Uncles were sent to war to fight communism only to have it forced on them years latter by the Goverment they defended.
Don't re-elect these Politicians, they are lying and only care about thier own personal gains.

To all those who placed money in 401K's

Remember, investing your 401k in the stock market is like gambling. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Fortunately, over the last decade, we have grown used to double-digit gains, expecting the party to last forever. In the last 10 years we have seen an average of a 30% return on our investments (AFTER the big drops). If you want to take the risk, then you have to be willing to accept the losses. Unfortunately, those losses have been because of mis-managed, de-regulated finance firms who played will-nilly with our investments. We trusted them and got hooked on their "financial crack". Now we are learning to go cold turkey to break our addiction.

any explanation of those for the bailout?

It seems to me, that neither Senator McCain nor Senator Obama has the political capital to get the "Do-Nothing" Congress to act. I think the representatives were actually representing the people who elected them.
Is there an article that explains why local Congressmen/women voted to throw taxpayer bucks hastily to this scheme? We all know if they voted to sink money into the bailout, and it backfired, it would be the President's fault if it worked out poorly politically. (See Congressional votes - Iraq war), a.k.a. I'm just an ignorant Congressperson, the President lied.
The Dems are really blowing an opportunity by putting their zaniest characters in their most powerful positions. Whatever happened to a Democrat like Sam Nunn?

a bad day for ira

Ira's beloved McCain has been shown to be an ineffectual leader of his own party.

Text of the Bill

For anyone that wants to read the draft: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/business/21draftcnd.html

You said it

"What I would like to see is stopping the blame game and try and see what the "real" problem is and what is realistic in solving it"

A multitude of bloggers on this site have explained the cause and solution to you Gertz. You have consitently used it as a forum to advance your own political view w/ 1 and 2 sentence quips. You have offered nothing prductive to the debate.

I would say you have mastered the ability to ignore others.

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