VIRGINIA BEACH
The city has a recent record of successes with second-go-rounds on unpopular projects.
When traffic engineers first pitched red-light-running cameras in the 1990s, the initiative was a failure with residents . Several years later, the City Council approved the measure, with little reaction.
Nine years ago, 55 percent of voters turned down a referendum for light rail in the Beach. Now the light-rail proposal is back. This time, city administrators aren’t banking on a new approach but a change in circumstances – the sagging economy, the price of gasoline and the growth of Town Center.
“These are legitimate reasons to have a linear transit system that goes up the spine of the city,” said City Councilman John Uhrin, one of two council members on the Hampton Roads Transit board.
Uhrin said polls by council candidates during the current election cycle have found overwhelming support for the project.
“There are so many families with only one car, children driving cars, living in rural areas,” Beach resident Eileen Teator said. “We need to develop a convenient mass-transit system.”
Teator was among about 80 people who attended a light-rail workshop Tuesday at the Virginia Beach Convention Center.
The workshop featured a video presentation on the proposed 11-mile Beach expansion onto Norfolk’s “Tide” project, a $232.1 million, 7.4-mile starter line that should be running in 2010.
At the session, Beach resident Eric Westhoff called himself “the anti-Tide guy.”
“I’m willing to pay more for something that really works,” said Westhoff, a 37-year-old father of two.
“With the city saying they don’t have enough money and Gov. Kaine saying we can’t meet our budget, where will this money come from?”
Westhoff said he fears the rail line will prove a drain on taxpayers similar to the St. Louis MetroLink. That city’s transit agency sued contractors for cost overruns and lost, then lost a countersuit.
Hampton Roads Transit Vice President Jayne Whitney said no cost estimates for the Beach line are being floated yet. First comes engineering and the permitting process.
“Having the experience from the Norfolk project will be helpful,” Whitney said. “It won’t be the first time we’ve done this.”
Uhrin deferred the question of whether light rail will come to a voter referendum again.
“I’d hold off until there are enough facts out there,” he said.
On Tuesday, Beach resident Kelli Stamm said a large group of her co-workers left Virginia Beach after work for downtown Norfolk, then returned to the Beach again.
“That’s 12 people who would have used light rail tonight,” she said.
John Warren, (757) 222-5114, john.warren@pilotonline.com






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About Time
Bring on the TIDE!!!
GOVERNMENT OF, BY and FOR the GOVERNMENT
The Good Old Boys are at work. We need to stop them. The VB Legislator's (Tata-Wagner) bypassed the voters and should hang their heads in shame. The local and State government legislators have it firmly entrenched in their minds that they know what the voters need. They won't ask them (the voters)because the answers do not agree with the desires of the campaign contributors who keep them in office (developers and RAC). This time passage (not funded)was by the State GA as an extension to the Norfolk system. Since when do the people of Virginia Beach who voted NO to Light Rail, have to put up with this kind of misconduct and unethical performance by their reps. The City Council is also working hard to bring the Norfolk extension to the Convention Center. KICK THE BUMS OUT!!!!!
Reid Lies - Again
The Norfolk Starter Line is budgeted at 45% of the cost of the 1999 proposal. It is about $8 million under budget with only one major contract left to award.
Then, the Virginia Beach Taxpayers Alliance (VBTA) and it's Transportation Chairman (Reid) have no intention of being honest about light rail.
What use without a spur to the Navy base?
I think that without a spur to the Navy base that this project is not going to really work.
Polls are not a referendum - put this project on the ballot
What has changed since 1999? The cost for constructing Light Rail has increased since 1999. The cost for operating Light Rail has increased since 1999. The value of the land (the Norfolk Southern Right Of Way) has increased since 1999. The cost for maintenacne has increased since 1999. The cost of the Feeder Bus service has increased since 1999. Property taxes in Virginia Beach have skyrocked since 1999. Population growth has pretty much flatlined since 1999. Folks, we have a lot of needs to pay for - this low volume TOD development amenity is really low priority and offers not meaningful reduction in commuter traffic congestion. In fact, where the rail runs on city streets or crosses busy intersections, it increases traffic congestion.
Finally!
Finally people are starting to get their heads out of the sand about this project! No, it won't be cheap; nothing like this ever is. But at least it will help concentrate new development along the line and help stop the need for new roads everywhere!
git r done
We need to get that ther new railroad built before any of them bridges starts falln' down.