The final McCain-Obama debate - your chance to weigh in

I didn't say 'personality.'

Um, I meant you yourself could be hurt by Obama's election when his programs fail.

I will be voting for Obama/Biden and it certainly won't hurt my personality either.
Voting for McCain will keep us in a war for the next decade, and this country cannot afford another war of lies.

The GOP has no one but themselves to blame for. In 2000 you elected George Bush and in 2004 he was re-selected. Out country has gone down hill every since. The GOP had dug their own hole, and the country is sick of it. The more McCain/Palin talk they worse it gets.

"McCain is relentless with his slander of Obama"

It is not slander when it is true. Look it up. I implore all voters to vote on facts and not emotion and bias. Take a couple of hours this week and review the bio the senate provides o ntheir websites. Collect information.

Take this vote seriously. An error could hurt you personally.

Come Nov. 4th we will all go to the polls and vote for the person of our choice, and increasing number of both Democrats and Republicans are plannig to vote for Obama, and for all the right reasons. McCain and his foolsih move with Sarah Palin as VP is unspeakable. McCain is relentless with his slander of Obama, and it's a total turnoff, filled with lies and hate and we are sick of it. The public is not as stupid as McCain and Palin seem to think. And certainly not as stupid as some of the bloggers on here who continue to tout for him, with issues that are non-issues to begin with.

"whom John McCain's campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September."

John McCain makes no such decision. He is not head of the GOP by fefault just for running for president. If we want to deal w/ facts we can all see who voted against such legislation to curb the FM's by visiting Obama's section of the senate website. McCain sponsored legislation to rein them in and Obama voted against it. It's a fact. Any of you can look it up.

From AP:

WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI's chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain's campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.

In 2004 when Bush was running for president you could read articles online that stated he had a homosexual relationship whil in college. You can find anything you want online, half of it isn't true.

Search it!

Why would anyone even suggest that McCain or Obama are not citizens?
Obama, No question American.
McCain, Born in the Canal Zone to a military family both US citizens coupled with an act of congress No Question American a Zonie but American.

You left Frank Raines off of Obama's list.

As for the Fox news source jabs below, YouTube has no political stance. You can easily look at clips of Obama making promises that he changed his mind on after receiving the nomination w/o commentary. You can watch him tell a guy in Ohio he intends to implement socialism. He intends to give those who do less or nothing more from those of us who work.

It's true. You know it's true. The scary part is every time he has backed off from a promise it was after learning about it. I used to be suprised some people would want such an inexperienced person in office but after reading your comments for a couple of months it is clear you do not know what you are doing. A large part of your group are simply panhandlers.

Obama is a US citizen because he was born in Hawaii, the 50th state. Since his mother was born in Kansas, to 2 American citizens, he is a citizen anyway 1 could possibly look at it. On the other hand, McCain was born in Panama.

As far as Odinga goes, he is Obama's cousin. From the same tribe as Obama's father. Search it.

Obama’s associations: Warren Buffett and Republicans Dick Lugar, Chuck Hagel and Jim Leach, just to name a few that have a good chance being part of an Obama administration. Powell has been an unoffical advisor for several months.

McCain’s associations: Rick Davis’s Freddie Mac/Fanny May and other lobbyists on his staff that make a good chance in McCain administration, his economic advisor that called me a whiner, and a VP that has demonstrated both a lack of experience and common sense and is in hiding for real questions before the elections while she could very well become our next President in a time of crisis.

I never voted for Bill Clinton due to his stance on the military. Sen Clinton and her female colleagues in both parties are not afraid to answer questions and speak their own mind. I've yet to see a female Rep Senator that supports McCain’s VP pick.

Why McCain claims he isn't George Bush, when his vote has supported Bush over 90% of the time. I would also like to know why there are so many lobbyist working on the McCain campign? Won't they actually be the same ones who will be running this country, God forbid, should he win? I would also like to know in who's dream do they think Sarah Palin would make a good president should anything happen to McCain? How much money has McCain/Palin spent on negative campaign ads.

Oh and BTW, your comments about Obama, are totally absurd, and if you ever listen to anything but Fox you would alread know that.

I think that the American Public needs to get more educated about Obama and his associations. Also, why doesn't he put his hand over his heart for the pledge or the National Anthem. As of October 6th, he still has not provided the answers to fulfill Berg's request for documentation to prove he is a U.S. Naturalized citizen...

When Obama mentioned his mentors, he didn't mention the Sorros guy.

And what and why would Obama help Odinga be President in Kenya?

There are too many questionable associations, the democratic party should have done more for Hillary for sure.

from your own article posting from the liberal NY Times

"Both, in fact, would probably be eligible for a tax cut, said Bob Williams, senior research associate at the independent, nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, though the cut would probably be greater under Mr. McCain’s tax plan than Mr. Obama’s."

So who is really cutting taxes for the middle class?

You can look back at basically 99% of the Obama supporters on this sites post history and see specific attacks against McCain supporters. The most prominent is the accusations of racism. Even in Mr. Kreb's letter he hurls an insult.

While Icannot convince people suc has Maynard to act reasonably, I like to think there are other casual readers and lurkers out there who are taking notes.

Reporting republican lies and distortions again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/us/politics/17joe.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Meanwhile, reports of angry republicans attacking and threatening Obama and his supporters continue to mount.

McCain - The Great Divider. He created Frankenstein and lost control. That's what you get when you use an inferior brain for your monster, I guess.

Obama approached Joe while campaigning in Ohio. It's on youtube, go look at it. McCain just took the conversation between those two (Obama and Joe) to make a point. Now whether Joe actually can buy the business or not has no bearing what-so-ever on the point made. A small business making 250K a year will be taxed more, meaning less people will be venturing out to start new companies, and those that already exist will probably have to lay people off because they can't afford to pay them anymore. As most small businesses are LLCs, or S corps, or partnerships, that's a lot of people laid off, or businesses out of business. It is not that hard to figure out.

Gertz said:

"As far as taxing the higher income folks who make more than $250K a year and less for middle class and poorer, then yes that's sprading the wealth around, if that's how you want to put it. "

Gertz wants to tax the self employed to provide money for the segment that pays no taxes. Any middle class business person can easily refute the $250K mark as being wealthy.

Gertz, you should have more concern for your fellow man. You have dispalyed you do not understand how business and tax laws work. What if your ignorant comments actually cause harm to someone? You should step aside when you do not understand the subject. You are hurting your candidate.

"How does this change what Obama said to him in response? He said he wanted to "spread the wealth around" didn't he?
I don't care about your opinion but you did see the tape right? He did say that? I saw it."

Make NO mistake I could careless about your opinions also. It's irrelivant what Obama said to McCain's "Joe the Plumber' The man was a fake. As far as taxing the higher income folks who make more than $250K a year and less for middle class and poorer, then yes that's sprading the wealth around, if that's how you want to put it.

You irritate people, Just to irritate them.

Regardless of who you support, the plumber himself is irrelevant. No one cares about the individual. It was the truth in what Obama said. Unless you can show us that someone planted the idea of "share the wealth" in Obama's mouth I don't think anyone will care.

If Joe were actually E.T. in a plumbers disguise, and owed 1MILL for kicking puppies, it still does not change the underlying principle of sharing wealth via taxes.

it was okay for McCain to bring "Joe the plumber" into the argument, but when that argument is rebutted, people are merely "pointing out the faults in 'Joe the Plumber'"?

"You have helped destroy GM and Ford, that which built the American middle class. Feel guilty? You should. That is part of the reason healthcare is not affordable for some."

You can just as easily buy stock in these companies as you could Ford. They are public corporations. While I whole heartedly agree we should support U.S. Businesses, any of us who bought a car that seemed to magically collapes at 100K know what killed the American automaker and it wasn't us. How about when just a few years ago GM stood up and anounced it made no sense to produce fuel effecient cars or alt methods of fueling?

Get real.

My Husband's boss did not take away the insurance .. he was already paying over 1500 dollars a month each for his and my hubby's insurance. BLUE CROSS took it away illegally but no one cares about that. Small Business is not required to provide health insurance to all employees if they have 6 employees or less... but BCBS makes their own rules. I will gladly pay my husband bills to keep him alive...but should I really have to when the man has worked over 45 years and should automatically get medicare on SSDA .. but the way it is set up is not allowing that to happen. IN the meantime those who need the help because they have cancer and could be dying will watch their families go into debt to keep them alive, and make them healthy.

Socialized medicine is only good if you have a cold and they can write you a script right then ...I have talked to cancer patients on support groups still waiting after 6 months for a MRI to stage how bad their cancer is....stage 3 and 4 can kill you in that time

Several of you, especially GERTZ and TWOMILER have been jumping on old Joe the Plumber for his 'Faults.'

How does this change what Obama said to him in response? He said he wanted to "spread the wealth around" didn't he?

I don't care about your opinion but you did see the tape right? He did say that? I saw it.

10 trillion in debt and almost every free welfare program you can think of already. The only thing we are missing is free healthcare.

What is next America? Free gas? Free food? What else do you want for free? I got it, how about we tax the rich and give you a car. A nice one too. Forget earning anything. Lets get it all free. What is the point of any of it?

What is the next thing you want government to give you?

America: Citizen Entitlement Complex.

Scarlett, That Toyota is Japanese technology and the most of the money and credit goes to Japan. They build the Camry and Tundra here so that they can say its an American made car. Is it an American company? Nope. The people who are responsible for its design are not American.

You have helped destroy GM and Ford, that which built the American middle class. Feel guilty? You should. That is part of the reason healthcare is not affordable for some.

Toyota builds those two vehicles here because it lowers the tariffs for its imports. Build a plant here and you are able to import THOUSANDS more with no penalty. That is what they've done. Keep driving that Japanese car. Keep asking for government hand outs. Keep blaming politicians instead of the Americans who don't support American businesses.

The state of our nation is your fault for not really supporting America.

"Just because someone uses their middle name that's a reason to get paranoid and call it as a conspiracy against Obama? "Joe" had valid questions and points, he didn't want to be taxed more just because he worked to be a success."

Get taxed more????? He's never made $250K in his life, and had no intention of buying a plumbing business. If he's so successful why doesn't he pay the federal government the $1,200.00 in tax liens he (Sam AKA Joe)owes? McCain claims to know this man so well, and it's all a joke just like McCain. The desperation of the McCain camp is unreal.

Some people don't know the meaning of paranoid.

Yet Sen. McCain thinks it's a good time to joke around with Joe and Sarah Palin. I'm glad the debates are over. Interviews provided me with information, so do speeches like Dick Lugar's last Wednesday:

Quote: "As Senator Obama correctly cautions against the implication that hostile nations must be dealt with almost exclusively through isolation or military force. In some cases, refusing to talk can even be dangerous..."

Quote: "The global financial crisis has demonstrated both the connectedness and the fragility of the world economy"..."The massive transfer of wealth to energy-rich states has turned some corrupt and hostile regimes into regional powers." “The next Administration must think every day, not just how to solve problems that are already manifest, but how to increase U.S. leverage in the future."

Palin/McCain seem to think Joe "the plumber" can save our nation.

Thanks for your comments. I agree with most of what you said.
Our government is like a clogged drain or an old fragmented computer hard drive. Our government needs to be unclogged and de-fragged.
Obama is probably the best choice to get our government back on track. He seems to have the calm demeanor and intellegence to get the job done. McCain showed grossly poor judgement in having Palin as his running mate. That's not putting country first, that's putting McCain first. People buy life insurance to cover their obligations when they die. We don't need to inherent Palin if he wins and then dies in office. That scares me more than Obama winning.