Gun advocates say rights are violated by police officers

way gun bearing could be an innate right is if the Supreme Being made guns. He never has. Anyone, thinking the "right" to carry & use of an instrument which is made solely for the purpose of killing someone or something, is an innate "right", has no rational thought processes. Actually, 1 insisting on open carrying in public is more likely to be attacked by a person going through gang initiation than 1 who doesn't open carry. The act of accosting an obviously armed person makes the gangster want-to-be seem even tougher to his or her peers.

I question who you are referring to as sexist since you were the one who brings up the subject of ones manhood and little boys with their toys. It looks like to me you have pronoun trouble.

"I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love."

Shoot a purse snatcher? it depends. Do you fear for the life of the victim? Here is Texas, we only have shall issue concealed carry. Use of Force is 'spelled out' in our Penal Code. I tell crooks, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Basically the VCDL wants the Police to do their job. I am sure their job doesn't include harassing law abiding citizens, knowingly committing false arrests and other acts of Official Oppression.

I don't carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.

Americans,

These are your rights; they are being tested, and taken, one step at a time.

My daddy always told me: "You ain't brave without a gun, you ain't brave."

I'm pretty sure I know what he'd say about people who needed to take a gun to libraries, council meetings, festivals and such.

The right to bear arms is innate and inalienable. It does not come from the amendment. The amendment acknowledges the right and protects it from government infringement.

I think it is more the inability of LEO's maintaining their own composure in knowing the law and the illegality of hassling these people in the first place. They don't know the difference between a right and a privilege. You don't truly know the backrounds or personalities of anyone who has posted here. It is irrelevant whether or not if one has something to hide. Why do you lock your doors or close your curtains? So it is OK with you for government to go on an Easter Egg hunt for no reason? Could it be you have something to hide? That is just as obsurd as Negroes getting government permission to sit at a lunch counter or the right to vote in the 1960's. Your sense of freedom is severly flawed. If you read The 2nd Amendment there is nothing in there about restrictions. The "right of the People" is the same people in the preamble in The Constitution. There are some LEO's, judges, and former LEO's (if we can b

"no more saving the world for u today Superman... Err Superwoman"

Trust me, that is not your decision and never will be.

haha sorry sir. Err ma'am, I don't recall "wisdom" being a space when filling out my paperwork or when posting anything on here. Go buy some goldfish and relax, no more saving the world for u today Superman... Err Superwoman LOL

For all your "wisdom", you don't understand that Gertz is short for Gertrude. I never did like in-your-face agenda's. They lead to NOTHING!

in maintaining one's composure in written comments doesn't bode well as an indication of self control. So, why would anyone believe such an individual could maintain composure if hassled while open carrying a gun?
why do some gun carry proponents have a problem with psychological testing & yearly proficiency test; also background checks & random drug testing? If one has nothing to hide, what's the problem? To get my clearances in the military, I had to go through all those things. I had to go through the same things while in law enforcement. I had to go through these things to work in the private sector. The right to carry a gun doesn't come from the Supreme Being. It comes from an Amendment,with restrictions, written by flawed men. This means it can be rescinded.

I'll be sure to tell anyone with a camera to get my concealed side in the pic. Wouldn't want to be giving "people" nightmares from having to see a holstered sidearm in the papers LOL. Come on and get over yourself my good man. If it weren't for people "like me", who'd pay those police officers wages. Well too much tree hugging liberal stuff on here for me today.

Submitted by twomiler2 on Fri, 10/10/2008 at 12:02 pm.
Rants indicate adolescent thinking.

No twomiler2. It's more like accurate thinking.

Gertz, does that mean that you'd stop your free speech if it scared others?

Because it shows a level of inmaturity, a lack of responsibility, and no consideration for otheres. People get afraid when they see people with open carry guns, and while you attept to flaunt your "right" it WILL bring you bad press. An IN YOUR FACE agenda, is never the best approach, but YOU don't care about that. YOU are the reason why restriction on guns right laws WILL be changed. There is a place for everything and what you want to do is the wrong place. Due as you will, I look forward to reading about it in the paper. Make sure you give the press a good picture of yourself, we all want to know who you are.

Immature? Not at all, just attempting to show all due respect to those opposed to open carry that is being showed to gun owners that with to open carry and be left in peace. And how exactally is carrying a gun at a gun show, then going to lunch afterwards bad press? Please inform me of this one good sir. Until later have a good day my friends. =)

indicate adolescent thinking.

Reasons
Submitted by twomiler2 on Thu, 10/09/2008 at 10:57 am.
I'm commenting as a reasoned, trained person, on this subject.

Hey twomiler2.. How do you know, or better yet, how do you NOT know who has been trained and and who is reasonable? How do we know that you are (were) trained and "reasoned"? You claim to be a former LEO, however, you may in fact be a convicted felon who wore an orange jump suit as your uniform. You don't have a clue sir as to who has had what training. Has it ever occured to you that since this is a military town that there just might be some of us that have had training, have metals in marksmanship, perhaps seen nad have been in combat, and know how to use firearms? I would bet that since none of us has attended the twomiler2 academy, none of the posters herein have been trained properly and therefore are not "reasoned". Spare us this Gertz rubbish sir!

You comment is very inmature and irresponsible. You really need to read Peterk41252's comment. It shows maturity, responsiblity and consideration. You on the other hand are showing the total opposite, and why our laws need to be changed. What you want to do is bringing all the bad press that I know you don't want, but go for it and see how it shows the public just how dangerious then can get.