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Who is Joe the Plumber? He's Joe Wurzelbacher of Ohio

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By PHILIP ELLIOTT

COLUMBUS, Ohio

Who is Joe the Plumber?

He is Joe Wurzelbacher, an Ohio man looking to buy a plumbing business who came to symbolize the notion of "spreading the wealth" in Wednesday night's third and final presidential debate between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain.

Earlier this week, when Wurzelbacher got a chance to speak with Obama when the candidate visited Toledo, he told Obama that his tax plan would keep him from buying the business that currently employs him.

Sensing an opening in the debate, McCain cited that exchange when the candidates were asked to explain why their economic plans are better than their opponent's. McCain said Obama's plan would stop entrepreneurs from investing in new small businesses and keep existing ones from growing.

"Joe wants to buy the business that he has been in for all of these years, worked 10, 12 hours a day. And he wanted to buy the business but he looked at your tax plan and he saw that he was going to pay much higher taxes," McCain challenged Obama.

"You were going to put him in a higher tax bracket which was going to increase his taxes, which was going to cause him not to be able to employ people, which Joe was trying to realize the American dream," McCain said.

McCain then looked directly into the TV camera and said: "Joe, I want to tell you, I'll not only help you buy that business that you worked your whole life for and I'll keep your taxes low and I'll provide available and affordable health care for you and your employees. And I will not stand for a tax increase on small business income."

Obama denied that was true.

"Not only do 98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000, but I also want to give them additional tax breaks, because they are the drivers of the economy," Obama said. "They produce the most jobs."

So what did Wurzelbacher (pronounced whur-zell-BAHK-er) think about being at the center of the debate?

"It's pretty surreal, man, my name being mentioned in a presidential campaign," he said minutes after hearing McCain utter his name.

In Toledo on Sunday, Wurzelbacher told Obama that he was preparing the company, which earns more than $250,000 a year, and said: "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"

Obama said that under his proposal taxes on any revenue from $250,000 on down would stay the same, but that amounts above that level would be subject to a 39 percent tax, instead of the current 36 percent rate.

"And the reason why we're doing that is because 95 percent of small businesses make less than 250 (thousand). So what I want to do is give them a tax cut. I want to give all these folks who are bus drivers, teachers, auto workers who make less, I want to give them a tax cut," he said.

Wurzelbacher protested, saying he's been a hardworking plumber for 15 years and why should he be taxed more.

"It's not that I want to punish your success," Obama said. "I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you that they've got a chance at success, too."

At a later point in the discussion, Obama said: "I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody. But listen, I respect what you do and I respect your question, and even if I don't get your vote, I'm still gonna be working hard on your behalf because small businesses are what creates jobs in this country and I want to encourage it."

Wurzelbacher's name came up again when the debate turned to a discussion of health care policies.

He said Obama's reaction on the tax question left him feeling uneasy.

"I didn't think much of it the first time I heard it," Wurzelbacher said, adding that he still thinks Obama's plan would keep him from buying the business.

About McCain: "He's got it right as far as I go."

Even so, Wurzelbacher declined to say which candidate would get his vote on Nov. 4.

"That's for me and a button to know," he said.

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Twomiler

How did John McCain become responsible for Joe the Plumber's background? If he wasn't quite as he said he was, that doesn't make him a Republican plant. How many of us would slightly "polish our halo" if dialoging with a presidential candidate. Plus, he didn't say he had a plan to buy his company this year--he said that was his dream. Some people are really nebulous dreamers with no practical details ever. They usually don't reach their dreams either, but that is another story . . . Cheers, MGM

Obama's reply: the middle class

My uncle never accepted a dime in farm subsidies in 40 years ever. Joe needs to go pay his delinquent taxes.

Like Bush Jr. Sen. McCain has made it very clear with his votes during the last 8 years that he does not believe Veteran's health care is part of the cost of war. One of Obama's spending initiatives is to take care of our Veterans when they come home this time around. I don't call that wasteful spending.

As Powell said 12 years ago during a real Republican Convention, “we must be firm but we must also be fair. We have to make sure that reduced government spending doesn't single out the poor and the middle class. Corporate welfare and welfare for the wealthy must be first in line for elimination.”

Sen. McCain cannot say the word middle class or corporate welfare. I wonder what his plans would have been without the lobbyists that are running his campaign and who he would have picked as his VP.

Hillarious

"Joe just needs to incorporate and pay himself a salary under 250k. Then he needs to manage the declarable income of his business to minimize his tax burden. Its not rocket science, its tax accounting."

You just undercut Obama's funding source for his new spending initiatives. The money simply isn't there to give away. Accountants will be watching this closely. Only people who do not understand the issue will beleive it and vote for him.

When is someone going to show me how they planted that statement in Obama's mouth concerning 'Joe the plumber?' Joe is simply a poster child. Who he is personally does not matter. It was Obama's reply that matters.

WHO IS SARAH PALIN

Joe pays less taxes under Obama's plan just like Veterans would pay less taxes.

I count 18 days before the elections. Who is Sarah Palin?

The McCain campaign = the gang that couldn't shoot straight

HOLLAND, Ohio - Joe the Plumber's story sprang a few leaks Thursday. Turns out that the man who was held up by John McCain as the typical, hard-working American taxpayer isn't really a licensed plumber. And court documents show he owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes.

You just can't make this stuff up.

He is a bush clone!

saw it coming

OK, here: Joe is an unlicensed illegal alien plumber with several felony convictions. On his last trip to Cuba to hobnob with communist leaders he beat his wife. He has porn on his computer, runs red lights, and has been known to open carry at Waterside.

How does any of this change the fact that Barack Obama admitted that his tax plan is a redistribution of wealth?

Plumber

he's not! Joe isn't licensed anywhere in Ohio. His employer, Al Newell, is licensed in Toledo but not in his county of residence. Officials in Lucas County state an employee of a plumbing firm needs to have either a journeyman's license or apprentice license. Newell Plumbing & Heating of Toledo is a 2 man operation. Joe has no idea as to how he would put a plan into place to buy the business. Seems as if Joe just wanted to attempt to embarrass Obama. Didn't work. It shows, again, that McCain doesn't do enough research.

joe the plumber

may not be so good at paying taxes as it is.

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWDHvDjnDnTs&refer=home

Joe-not a plumber

as he doesn't have a plumber's license in Ohio

also owes back taxes

Joe just needs to

Joe just needs to incorporate and pay himself a salary under 250k. Then he needs to manage the declarable income of his business to minimize his tax burden. Its not rocket science, its tax accounting.

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