The Virginian-Pilot
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The Navy announced Monday it wants to base a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier at Mayport Naval Station, an effort that would cost $426 million and could divert 3,200 sailors and civilian personnel from Virginia to Florida.
Moving one carrier to Mayport would reduce the risk of a catastrophic natural disaster or attack on the East Coast carrier fleet, now based entirely in Norfolk, Navy Cmdr. Anne Fischer wrote to the two congressional delegations.
A final decision by Secretary of the Navy Donald Winter is expected by the end the year. It would take at least six years to prepare Mayport for the move.
The report reignited the political rivalry between Florida and Virginia for Navy ships, sailors and the economic activity associated with them. The Hampton Roads Chamber of Commerce estimates the potential loss to the region at 11,000 jobs and $650 million annually.
Florida officials hailed the news. "Getting all of the nuclear carriers out of one port in Virginia is in our national security interest," said Sen. Bill Nelson, a Florida Democrat, in a statement.
Virginia officials immediately criticized the decision as costly, inefficient and politically motivated. They vowed to fight the proposal.
"The next administration should take a fresh look at the whole issue," said Virginia's senior senator, John Warner, who will retire in January. The Navy no longer faces a Cold War threat that could destroy a fleet concentrated at one base, he said. And it already has $4.6 billion in unmet budget needs.
Virginia officials have speculated that the Navy's new carrier, George H.W. Bush, will be sent to Florida. The ship is scheduled to be commissioned Jan. 10 at Northrop Grumman shipyard in Newport News.
Norfolk Mayor Paul Fraim said President George W. Bush's political connections, not military needs, are driving an effort to move the namesake ship to Florida, where his brother, Jeb Bush, once was governor.
"It is my strong belief that the uniformed branch does not support this," Fraim said.
The Navy denied a carrier has been chosen.
Norfolk remains a vital Navy hub, Fischer said, but "maintaining two aircraft carrier homeports in the Atlantic best supports long-term operational readiness and is critical to the Navy's mission and our national security interests."
The Navy began planning for the future of Mayport about a year ago. The base's only aircraft carrier, the conventionally powered John F. Kennedy, was decommissioned last year.
Mayport, located near Jacksonville, was home to 22 ships and about 13,000 personnel in 2006, the final full year of operations at the base for the Kennedy. The Navy plans to begin decommissioning its 10
Mayport-based frigates in 2010, which would cut the number of ships at the base in half.
In March, the Navy released a draft study which proposed 13 alternatives for the base. Eight of the options included preparing the base for a nuclear carrier. Others included moving a combination of destroyers, cruisers and amphibious ships, or doing nothing.
The Navy's preferred option would send Mayport one nuclear carrier but no other ships or aircraft squadrons.
Mayport will need an estimated $426 million in new construction, including dredging, road and pier improvements and a new facility to maintain the nuclear propulsion plant, said Navy spokesman Lt.
Sean Robertson. The base would not be ready for a nuclear carrier until at least 2014, he said.
Robertson acknowledged that the Navy considered factors outside the scope of the environmental impact statement, including the financial, social and strategic effects of moving ships. He declined to comment on any political involvement in the decision.
The Navy's proposal still faces several hurdles. It must be endorsed by the secretary of the Navy, receive financing from Congress, and likely run a gauntlet of legal and procedural challenges. It also must pass muster with President-elect Barack Obama and his national security team.
Florida's Nelson said final approval from the military is a formality. "For all intents and purposes, it's a done deal," he said. "We are full steam ahead. Jacksonville is going to have a nuclear carrier."
Gov. Timothy M. Kaine said the Navy's needs are best served by keeping its carrier fleet and fighter squadrons together in Hampton Roads. "I will continue to work closely with Virginia's congressional delegation to keep all of Hampton Roads's fleet in Virginia," he said.
The Hampton Roads Chamber of Commerce announced it will work to fight the decision as well. And three members of the Virginia delegation - Republicans Rob Wittman and Randy Forbes and Democrat Bobby Scott - have agreed to send a letter to Obama arguing that the decision would drain Navy resources during difficult economic times.
Forbes, who drafted and circulated the letter, said the carrier decision has been in the works for some time. "There's a long time between now and 2014," he said. "A lot can happen."
Louis Hansen, (757) 446-2322, louis.hansen@pilotonline.com

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A Trade Off-OLF or Massive Pollution
The city of Virginia beach in order to preserve their cash cow wants to plant an OLF in the middle of southside Virginia. Well guess what -turn about is fair play. The powers that be in Surry County, want to build a massive slobbering dirty coal fired power plant in Dendron which will tip the scales at 1500 megawatts.
We may not be able to hear your screams of anguish because of our deafness due to jet noise. With 600 foot high exhaust stacks guess where the pollution will end up. Basically they are guessing where it will end up because they are using computer modeling to figure where the exhaust will go.
We won't have any trouble finding you though because you will probably be glowing in the dark. You see Wikipedia says that a thousand megawatt powerplant could release as much as 5.2 tons/year of uranium(containing 74 pounds of uranium 235 and 12.8 tons of thorium. This plant will be a third larger than this at 1500 megawatts. Did I forget to mention there is also lead, arsenic, berrylium and mercury in the flyash.
Ask the people in chesapeake who had a golf course built next to them using flyash now all the local wells are showing eight times the normal levels of
Nuke carrier At Mayport
I currently live in mayport within a stones throw of the base, my main concern and objections at this time are traffic related as well as a possible threat of a foreign flagged cruise ship called carnival with a foreign crew on board sitting next door to the base it self.Does not the
foreigners pose a threat to the security of a nuke carrier? mayport village is right on the edge of the base the back gate is only a two lane road traffic already backs up to wonderwood now envision 3 to 4000
cars coming from mayport cruise ship and on the same two lane road navy construction workers coming in the back gate you going to have a bottle neck, now lets talk about the front gate during lunch time you leave the
base and drive up another two lane road with mediuns you have 4 or 5 traffic lights this road is not wide enough to handle that kind of traffic it backs up now from levy road to the base and 45 minutes later you might make it to lunch. go ahead and google it look at it at lunch time we cant even get an emergency through, most of the fire fighters complain about their calls god forbid someone dies, not to mention no left turns its a problem can you image the navy crews not being abl
Do the jets go too?
See what happens when local governments depend on one industry? My hometown of Detroit depended on the Big 3 for so long and resisted diversifying until it's probably too late. With a young educated work force, strategic location, abundant natural resources and (mostly) excellent weather, why does this area continue to be addicted to the
no- growth government jobs? Move the carrier and take the corresonding jets with it. The growth in SE VA has been in spite of the Navy, not due to it.
Navy
I was told that I am far to smart to waste my mind in the Navy and that I should consider joining the Air Force instead. I couldn't decide though so, now I work for the "Catholic Worker Movement" I'm kidding guys don't get your shorts all acockbill. Where are your sole bearers contractor? Arrrrg
Re Jim Jones has never been in the navy
Though his use of maritime venecular, I would hazard a guess that he has at least "pollywog" status, though I doubt he has ever "weathered the Lizard." Har Har har
RicM25798
All right Ric. I'll grant you that but, only if you will grant me that some crazy terrorists heck bent on blowing up a carrier could actually plow a tanker at full speed right into the back of the carrier at the end of the pier in Mayport as seen Google Maps. Or two tankers could completely block the entrance to THAT harbor just as easily. How is Mayport better than here from that standpoint? Blocking the harbor is a moot point. Anyway, then what? Is Venezuela going to attack us? It IS only political. That was my only point.
Pentagon Group warns Obama to Make cuts.
NOV 10 2008 "WASHINGTON - A senior Pentagon advisory group, in a series of bluntly worded briefings, is warning President-elect Barack Obama that the Defense Department's current budget is "not sustainable," and he must scale back or eliminate some of the military's most prized weapons programs."
And here he has an opportunity to not send CVN's to Mayport & save almost 1/2 billion. I dont think it is too far fetched to say this Mayport deal will be either cut....or shelved indefinately.
For the ideologically blinded
Republicans are pretty good at making military cuts as well. Perhaps you have heard of George Bush Sr. and his "peace dividend":
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/309/
Democrats are no less patriotic and no less concerned about our national security than republicans. Only idiots would suggest otherwise.
Democrats Are Famous For Cutting Military Expenses
I really dont see President Elect Obama passing up a chance to cut 1/2 a billion dollars in military spending by simply choosing not to send nuclear carriers to Mayport. I'm not saying all the nuclear carriers will stay here, but, I doubt Mayport will get any while a Democrat is at the Helm.
Breal4real and jimjones
For some reason my post from yesterday is still pending. Recap:
Breal4real and JimJones must not have served in the Navy. I’ve piloted aircraft carriers through that channel. While the deep-draft channel is wide enough for 2 ships the size of carriers to pass each other, it’s the area OVER the tunnels that are choke points. While these particular areas are wide enough for two ships to pass each other, there is little additional room - the channel is only as wide as the level portion of the tunnel below. Sink one or two large tankers over the HRBT and you completely blockade the Navy’s deep-draft ships.
True, ships take on harbor pilots, but they don’t inspect the ships’ holds. Very easy to stow a WMD and sink the ship or explode near the carrier piers.