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Police departments say use of Tasers has been a success

Posted to: Crime News Norfolk

Last September, Suffolk Police Officer Duffie McLamb deployed a Taser on a mentally disturbed patient who was struggling after being pulled from the third floor hospital window he’d just tried to jump out of.

McLamb’s efforts earned the officer a lifesaving award.

In Norfolk last month, a cop shocked Pamela Brown – known as the Hula Hoop Lady of Granby Street – three times with a Taser as he tried to arrest her.

That officer, who was criticized by some for being too quick to use the Taser, was placed on administrative duty pending a review of the case. The incidents show the two sides of Tasers: the controversial weapon and the device that can deter crime and save lives.

In South Hampton Roads, two police departments, Suffolk and Norfolk, widely outfit police officers with Tasers. Suffolk got them in June 2007, Norfolk in February.

Suffolk officers have deployed them 88 times this year, a figure that includes drawing a Taser, but not activating it.

In the first seven weeks the Tasers were used in Norfolk, 20 people were struck with Tasers, and 48 others decided to cooperate with police before getting shocked. Updated figures in that city weren’t immediately available Friday, and Norfolk police didn’t respond this week to questions from The Pilot about the status of the officer who struck Brown, a woman who suffered a brain injury from an accident in 1977 that still affects her. .

Amnesty International USA, a human rights group, has called on police departments to deploy them only in incidents where they would resort to guns – or to stop using them altogether. The effects of Tasers haven’t been fully researched, the group argues, especially on children, the disabled, people with mental illness and pregnant women. The group reports on its Web site that more than 320 people have died after being shocked with Tasers.

An interim report released in June from the National Institute of Justice states that “conducted energy devices” or CEDs are relatively safe for so-called normal and healthy adults.

But they “can produce secondary or indirect effects that may result in death,” it said, and there isn’t enough information so far to determine whether they are safe for the group of people Amnesty has expressed concern for.

Taser training and policies vary in Norfolk and Suffolk’s police departments.

In Norfolk, officers get 8 hours of classroom and hands-on training, said Officer Chris Amos, a department spokesman.

Suffolk officers get twice that. They must also go through an 8-hour refresher course each year, said Dean Smith, a police department captain who reviews each Taser incident. Policy allows Taser deployment when suspects are actively resisting arrest or fleeing arrest, he said. Officers aren’t required to carry them.

But having them is strongly encouraged, Smith said. “More and more officers are wanting to get them.”

In August, the Norfolk police issued a 12-page policy on the purpose and use of CEDs.

That city’s policy limits their use to “when necessary to overcome actual or threatened physical resistance encountered ... where it is reasonably believed that the use of a less obtrusive method would allow the individual to escape or would expose the officer or others to physical injury.”

Still, Norfolk’s policy says the decision for use must be “based on the totality of the circumstances in a given situation” including failing to subdue a person by other conventional tactics. Unless threatened with death or serious injury, no more than three jolts should be administered, it says.

The policy also says that, other “than in exigent circumstances,” the CED shouldn’t be used on people who are “physically vulnerable due to age or medical conditions” and those who put up “only non-threatening verbal or passive resistance.”

Capt. Smith of Suffolk said fewer officers have been injured in his department after the Tasers went into use. “We haven’t had any complaints of abuse,” he said.

Suffolk police used batons – which historically result in accusations of abuse – 11 times in 2007, Smith said. That has dropped to six so far this year, a reduction he credits to CEDs.

“We are happy as a department and as a city with the effectiveness the Tasers have had,” Smith said.

Kristin Davis, (757) 222-5555, kristin.davis@pilotonline.com  

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I still think it was excessive

I watched the video of the Hula Hoop Lady a number of times. It was hard to get the entire conversation and granted, the public's point of view was the taser's camera. But from what I saw, Ms Hula Hoop Lady was overly excited. The officer tried to get her to do what he asked. She repeatedly tried to tell him that she could not get her hands behind her back, and had not only a medical alert necklace, but a card in the pocket of her pants which went ignored. That was very clear. I've no doubt, given her disabilities, that this woman became agitated upon confrontation. I know too, that the adrenalin of a person in such a state can make them very strong. I don't know the dept's policy on tasering, but it seems to me that once she was prone, she did not pose any danger to herself or others. I think repeated tasering was far too excessive, not to mention dangerous because of her history of seizures, and I really think that there could have been more effective ways of de-escalating the situation.

Yeah Robert

What you've described sounds like a show in Tijuana. A one armed man, a pregnant lady, some baby oil and mucho cerveza and I think you've got a show.

re: so I'm guessing the

noon wrote:

>>>The first time is probably fair use. The second time, after the guy was on the ground, merits discussion. If the guy was prone and subdued it makes me wonder whether it was necessary to protect the cops to tazer the guy a second time. Especially if there were multiple cops on the scene. I understand that he was not cuffed and could be trouble.<<<

The second tazing was needed more than the first. A proper frisk had not been done and he had his hands under him...why? Was he going for a gun, a knife?

Bottom line is he didn't comply....ZAP!

Re RobertA

Good One Jim! Apparently you also have to engage in "pregnant lady wrestling", sounds tricky at best... It's really no wonder all the departments have openings.

contractorva

Duh, that's all you can do is HANDcuff him. He's only got one!

Also for RobertA a question

Re: "Trying to restrain a large man with one arm?" I'm not interested in how you restrain him, since he has only 1 arm. But I am curious is how you handcuff him.

so I'm guessing the

so I'm guessing the questions around the Taser killing Norm linked to surrounds the second time the Taser was used. The facts Norm relays are not inconsistent with the facts in the story. His interpretation and speculation are something else again. Here is the relevent bit form the news story:
"An officer, whom police have not identified, deployed the Taser and forced Harlan to the ground. Police said that when Harlan refused orders to remove his arms from under his body, the officer deployed the Taser again, and Harlan complied."
The first time is probably fair use. The second time, after the guy was on the ground, merits discussion. If the guy was prone and subdued it makes me wonder whether it was necessary to protect the cops to tazer the guy a second time. Especially if there were multiple cops on the scene. I understand that he was not cuffed and could be trouble. out of words

This is for you Robert A

Yes, we are free, thank God, to express our opinion though I think you would have it otherwise. We should always question the behavior of those individuals that we citizens employ to protect and serve us and those whom we elect to govern us and those whom we ask to defend us from foreign invasion(sic). It is our duty as citizens to to make sure that those whom WE give power over us do not abuse that power and to remove from them that power when it does not, in our opinion, serve OUR best interests. All cops are not bad, nor was suggesting that but, neither are ALL cops good. The bad public servants must be weeded out and there is but one way to do that; by questioning their behavior on the job. There is no other standard by which to judge.

Har Har Har

'Twas on the good ship Venus,
By Christ you should have seen us,
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Was a ...'

Contractor's killin' me!

Seriously folks, I'm glad everyone enjoyed my shameful anecdote. I think a few however missed the point. So, to put it another way, after watching the video of the Hula Hoop lady get tasered, it is my impression that if Electro had calmed down he would have realized that she was not a crack head nor a one armed strong man on PCP and that it would've been better to call the “men in white coats” instead of tasering her THREE times. You don't taser the Rainman; you make sure he doesn't hurt himself.

This cop has been weighed, and he has been measured, and he has been found wanting. In what world should he have a gun?

Rules of Engagement

Tasers certaintly seem like a viable tool but, since they can kill people I tend to think they should only be used in self defense or if the public is in immeddiate danger. User of the taser on a fleeing suspect seems, well, suspect --spare me the Hannibal Lector anecdotes, here please. In short the rules of engagement for Taser's should probably be reserved for violent and dangerous people. Not runners.

Robert A: Calm down. If you are a cop, you are supposed to be serving the community not ranting at them. I'm greatful to the police for their service not beholden to them for my freedom. Given that power corrupts I not inclined to take a "father knows best" attitiude with respect to thier conduct--that way lies tyanny. It was your choice to be a cop, either live with all that it entails or don't. You also seem to have an issue with your caps lock.

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