Restaurateur runs into limited alcohol hours in Ocean View

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NORFOLK

Donald Rockwell expected a warm welcome from the Ocean View Task Force when he spoke to the group two months ago.

He runs two successful restaurants near Old Dominion University and proposed opening another, an upscale eatery he plans to call the Boars Nest, on 1st View Street in Ocean View.

But there wasn't a lot of love in the audience when the group learned he wanted to sell alcohol until 2 a.m. on weekends. The Ocean View civic leaders gave his proposal a unanimous thumbs-down. Earlier this month, the City Council followed the task force's recommendation, limiting alcohol sales to 11 p.m. on weekdays and midnight on Friday and Saturday.

Rockwell told council members that he is being held to a double standard. Most eateries downtown, near ODU and in the Military Circle area can serve alcohol until 2 a.m. Why, Rockwell asked, is Ocean View an exception?

History, replied Councilman W. Randy Wright, who represents most of Ocean View and has made cleaning up the area's tawdry image a personal goal.

Ocean View and nearby East Little Creek Road were once overrun with troublesome bars that generated dozens of police calls on weekends. More than a dozen strip bars attracted drugs and prostitution to the areas around Ocean View Avenue, Shore Drive and Little Creek Road, Wright said in an interview.

"There were so many problems when the bars began to empty out at 2 a.m.," he said.

As a result, in the early 1990s, the city instituted a policy that prevented new restaurants in Ocean View from serving alcohol after midnight. Technically, in Virginia, there are no bars, only restaurants because an establishment must serve food in order to serve alcohol. Yet, many of Ocean View eateries were restaurants in name only because they lived off alcohol sales.

"What we tried to do was to get those bars to operate like restaurants," Wright said.

When a restaurant was sold, its selling hours were cut back. Slowly, over the next decade, as dozens of restaurants changed hands, alcohol sales after midnight began to subside, and s o did the problems.

In recent years, Ocean View has seen an influx of family-oriented restaurants, such as Razzo, Captain Groovy's Grill and Seafood Raw Bar and Mona Lisa's. All agreed to limit alcohol sales to midnight or earlier.

"It helped change the character of Ocean View," Robert Layton, a Willoughby resident and commissioner for the Norfolk Redevelopment and Housing Authority, said of the city's get-tough policy.

Councilman Don Williams, who represents Willoughby, said the city might be applying a double standard, but that's because Ocean View is different from downtown.

"I don't know many people who eat after midnight down here," he said. "Downtown, it's different. You may go out to eat after a show or a hockey game. People do eat at midnight after a show. They don't here."

Not so, Rockwell said. Younger residents in Ocean View's upscale new developments are looking for entertainment and don't want to drive downtown to find it, he said.

Rockwell plans to have bands perform in his restaurant. Cutting off alcohol sales at midnight could hurt his business, he said.

Rockwell said he worries about his competition. His restaurant is within a short drive of three restaurants that serve alcohol until 2 a.m. They are among about 20 restaurants in Ocean View and on Little Creek Road that operate under the old rules because their ownerships have n't changed, Wright said.

The Ocean View Civic League partially agreed with Rockwell, voting unanimously to allow him to serve alcohol until 1 a.m., according to a letter penned by civic league President Al Saunders.

The letter hasn't swayed Wright.

"I wish him well," Wright said of Rockwell. "But once you relent on one restaurant, you've got to open it up for every one of them."

Harry Minium, (757) 446-2371, harry.minium@pilotonline.com

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OV Park or Parking Lot?

Forgot to mention something someone told me today...
Mama's Italian Kitchen was purchased by the city for use to expand the OV Park, but guess who is STILL using it years later? Yup.... it's Greenie's parking lot!! Any other business would NEVER get away with that. What gives?

Cleaning up the merchants

It's not the hours... it's the QUALITY of a store, restaurant, bar, etc that make or break a community.

All those quaint and cozy home-grown American towns we love to visit have one thing in common... great little shopping districts with unique boutiques, good food, pedestrian-friendly streets that encourage you to spend the day walking around, shopping, browsing, eating and getting to know your neighbors! With the new OV library as an anchor, the area has great potential to turn in that direction. It's up to the merchants to step-up and help turn the area into something worthwhile. A community's "main street" greatly reflects the residences that surround it.

Greenie's could definitely use a face-lift. It could keep it's "local-charm" yet be greatly improved if it were cleaned-up a bit. I'd rather a nice bar-restaurant be open until 2am versus a dirty-dive any day. The City needs to get their priorities straight, and understand that Oceanview NEEDS to have good merchants in the area and to stop scaring them away!!!!

AND ANOTHER THING!!!

why doesn't the PILOT investigate the fact that the "Boone" establishments have "special" standards???....these business' were purchased by them after this 1990 ordinance / law...how about some investigative journalism and to explain this to the public???...we are dying to know.!!!

Hey Don Rockwell...

...here is how you FIX this problem...First, legally change you name to Boone....Donald Boone...hmmm...has a nice ring to it!!!...then be sure the Mr Williams bill is taken care of...(you really should set a table aside for him)...yea..Mr William's table...that's it...then you'll have to cater to all thier croonies...sorry for all your troubles Mr Rockwell...this is how it works...the 12pm law thing...is as outdated as the NO tatoo parlor law we had...and it works to the advantage of " The Family"...all for me...none for you...sorry pal!

I've got a bet for anyone that's willing to take it.

Turn Greenies, The Pier, and The Thirsty Camel into African American Clubs and watch the city close them down at midnight or before. I'm not even African American, but I know what i know and have seen too much Double Standards in this city to know.. Randy Wright, you are a joke.

A very nice story but

A very nice story but misleading. To see the real truth just head over to Boar's Head on Monarch Way after midnight. Its a drunken roll. I wouldnt want those people in my neighborhood either.

double standard? Yes...But....????

Speaking as an 'outsider'..I have a very good friend who lives in OV, very close to Greenies...and I spend quite a bit of time weekly in that area...so it's not like I don't know the whole story. I agree...there is a double standard...but I have to say that OV has come a LLOONNGGGG way forward. I can walk with my friend and her dog after midnight near the beaches, near the shopping center, near the bars and eateries and such without being appraoched by hookers, or johns looking for hookers or crack heads looking to score or sell. Is all of OV clean?...not exactly...it has its tarnished spots, but they are disapprearing. Are the big McMansions selling?? No..becuiase who wants a $500-750,000 house next to a bar...that sell 'food'...that stays open till 2 am and then the drunks roll out, and do any number of anti-social things...?? No one...thats who.

Do I like the the fact that the Boone's have a lock on much of the OV area? Not really...but I'll take a matriarchy that keeps the drunks and the drug users and the hookers off or away from an area any day. Any kind of 'archy', matri-mon or oligar- is not a good thing...one has to weigh in each hand the most detestable solution,....

RENAMING OCEANVIEW

Why not just rename Oceanview to BOONEVIEW? That's the only people who actually own something down there. Since Greenies and the other BOONE establishments can serve way past the curfew of midnight, let's see if Judy, Ronnie and lil Johnnie can take on the fight of citizens being tired of see Judy Boone Reality signs all over?

City Council's got more of a tawdry image.

It's unavoidable that this is more a non-competition coverage for the Boone's establishments than it is to "clean up OV". Ocean View's "tawdry" image came from the TYPE of establishments that were allowed to operate. People weren't going into Granby North to see half naked girls and then go outside to hope to pick up a person of questionable sexuality on the corner. Those places are gone, and now the younger folks are moving into OV and it's "upscale" housing (while the bottom rung folks that they kicked out move into other formerly upscale areas) they're looking for the social life that goes with the community. There's places in the Riverside area on Granby that serve drinks until 2 (really, 1:30. Who can actually get a drink at 2) and the image in that area is horrible. And the 7-11's still sell booze until 12, so how can one reason that the lack of places to get drunk saved OV, when we've ALWAYS got the Sevvie except for between midnight and 6 am?

Norfolk City Council

It seems like the Boone family has things well sewed up with the Norfolk City Council. A definite double standard there that should be investigated. When all of Boone's operations have to comply with the same laws, then the Norfolk City Council might start getting back some of its credibility.

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