Smoking bills may test if tobacco is still king in Va.

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RICHMOND

When Ben Moskowitz goes out to eat, he takes his wife, his wallet and a prescription inhalant for his chronic bronchitis.

He tries to avoid restaurants that allow smoking. But sometimes when he's away from home or in a crowded shopping mall, there aren't options.

"If there's smoke in the air, even back in the kitchen, I start coughing my head off," said Moskowitz, 83, a retired Virginia Beach electrician.

Should state government protect Moskowitz and millions of others by banning smoking in restaurants? The debate is fuming in the General Assembly this winter, where lawmakers are considering about a dozen bills that would limit lighting up.

A coalition of health-care groups, saying the costs of secondhand smoke on lives and the economy are too great to ignore, wants to ban smoking in restaurants. The measure is endorsed by Gov. Timothy M. Kaine and appears to have safe passage though the state Senate, which has approved the ban in each of the past two years.

But a snag remains in the House of Delegates, where Republican leaders say government should not referee smoking in restaurants.

"Restaurant owners don't need government to tell them what to do," said Del. Tom Gear, R-Hampton, who heads a subcommittee that has killed the bill without a recorded vote in each of the past two years. "If they're losing customers because of secondhand smoke, they're free to put up 'no smoking' signs. I've got three restaurants I frequent and they've all gone nonsmoking over the last year."

Twenty-three states ban smoking in restaurants, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. In Virginia, however, tobacco has been a sacred leaf.

The state's economy was founded on tobacco and has long relied on it. Philip Morris USA, the nation's largest cigarette producer, and its corporate parent, Altria, are headquartered in Richmond. The tobacco industry last year contributed $467,000 to state election campaigns, including $276,000 from Altria.

This year, however, tobacco is facing particularly strong challenges at the Capitol.

In addition to the restaurant ban, Kaine is asking the General Assembly to double the cigarette tax to 60 cents a pack.

The proceeds would offset about $150 million in Medicaid cuts Kaine has proposed to balance the state budget.

Kaine says his plan would require smokers to pay a larger share of the $400 million in Medicaid costs the state annually absorbs from cigarette-related illnesses.

The tax appears headed for defeat, however. Many lawmakers say the levy would disproportionately hurt low-income people who are already struggling in the recession.

The increase is strongly opposed by Phil ip Morris and Altria, which have invested $1 billion in recent years building new headquarters in Richmond.

The smoking ban, too, may face long odds. "Unless I learn something brand new, I'm going to vote against it," Gear said.

Anti-smoking groups see a few new rays of hope. For starters, all 140 House seats will be up for election this year. Advocates of the smoking ban say the measure has broad public support that lawmakers may be reluctant to challenge.

"We're still hearing, 'No, ' from some legislators, but we're no longer hearing, 'Hell, no,' " said Cathleen Grzesiek, a lobbyist for the American Heart Association.

Much of their optimism is pinned on organizational changes within the House of Delegates. Speaker William Howell, R-Stafford, has assigned smoking-ban bills to the House General Laws Committee. The chairwoman of that panel during the past two years - Del. Terrie Suit, R-Virginia Beach - sent the bills to Gear's six-member subcommittee, where they died without a recorded vote.

Suit resigned last year to join a lobbying firm. The new General Laws chairman, Del. Chris Jones, R-Suffolk, favors smoking limitations and has promised that the restaurant ban will receive a "full and fair hearing."

Jones, however, would not say whether he plans to bypass Gear's panel, which smoking opponents call "the committee of death."

The anti-smoking lobbying is intense, led by the American Cancer Society, the American Heart Association and the American Lung Association. Last Wednesday the groups bused about 200 anti-smoking activists to Richmond - including Moskowitz and his wife, Grace - to urge lawmakers to pass the ban.

Moskowitz says the value of shielding businesses from regulation, while valid, is trumped by the importance of protecting the public from secondhand smoke.

"Grace and I can choose to walk out of a restaurant because of the smoke, and we've done that," he said. "But the people who work in restaurants don't have that choice. They have to stay there and breathe it in."

Gear dismisses that argument, saying there are plenty of nonsmoking eateries that are hiring.

"I can't remember the last time I went into a restaurant and didn't see a 'Help wanted' sign," he said.

Several lawmakers are seeking compromise. Del. John Cosgrove, R-Chesapeake, has introduced a bill that would require any smoking restaurant opened after July 2010 to have separately ventilated rooms for its puffers and non-puffers.

Under the measure, employees could not be required to work in the smoking rooms.

Cosgrove serves on Gear's subcommittee and opposes an outright smoking ban.

State Sen. Kenneth Stolle, R-Virginia Beach, is fashioning a bill that would define a restaurant as a business that makes 60 percent of its money from the sale of meals - not including alcohol.

Establishments meeting that criterion, not including private clubs, would have to be smoke-free.

Anti-smoking activists and many House Republicans show no desire to compromise, however.

"We would rather walk away than agree to bad public policy," said Grzesiek of the American Heart Association.

Warren Fiske, (804) 697-1565, warren.fiske@pilotonline.com

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You want to blame the smoker, but

"mg30737 on Sun, 01/25/2009 at 11:29 pm.
Sitting near a smoker in a restaurant , is like sitting next to someone passing gas while you are trying to eat . The only difference is the smoker doesn't have to smoke , unless it is a drug and they can't help it."

Why would you go to a restaurant/bar that allows smoking when there are so many out there that don't?
I think everyone is overlooking their options and choices on where they eat.

The freedom of choice.

I do not smoke. I do not frequent ANY establishment which allows smoking in any area of the place. That is my choice. People who do smoke should have places they can go and enjoy it, as long as it is legal to do so. It is the consumer's choice where they go and who gets their money. The market will determine who survives, the smoking establishment or the non-smoking.

why not exercise your options

If the restaurant/bar you visit has smokers then talk to the owner and tell them you don't like it and want them to stop allowing smokers. If that doesn't work, find another restaurant/bar, there are many out there that don't allow smokers.

I think restaurants should charge a fat tax to all overweight or obese customers. They are a burden to our health costs and affect all of us who keep ourselves in shape.

Gertz Point

Your comment that, "The government needs to work on more important issues" is baffling. What is MORE important that the health and well being of citizens? Smoker's, please get some help to quit your expensive, filthy habit. Take some personal responsibility for your health and those around you. Quit contributing your hard earned money to the producers of a product they know kills and maims. We non smokers are quickly losing patience with your selfish addiction.

people smoke in restaurants/bars because

People smoke in restaurants/bars because the owner allows it so don't just blame the smoker blame that restaurnat/bar owner. That's what this is all about in the first place.
It should be up to the restaurant/bar owner to allow or dis-allowing smoking. Folks, it really is that simple. The government needs to work on more important issues.

Socialism

Yet another effort for the government to intrude on our rights. I do not smoke and I hate second hand smoke. the people that smoke in restaurants are rude and inconsiderate. That being said the government should have no right to tell a private establishment what it can and cannot do. If you do not like the smoke in a restaurant tell the management and stop doing business with them. There is nothing to stop a restaurant from prohibiting smoking right now. I would think with the majority of people now being non smokers that wouldbe a good marketing advantage.

We do not need any more government intrusion in our lives!

rights, indeed

Actually, gabrielle, I was referring to richardy64072's remark that people who complain ought to be silenced. I believe his eloquent statement was to "shut the h up." It appears he doesn't believe people with a differing opinion have a right to take part in the debate. The fact of the matter is, I don't believe in smoking bans because I, too, agree that restaurant owners ought to have the right to choose whether to allow smoking on their property. However, I respect the opinions of those with whom I disagree, more so their right to have them. richardy64072, on the other hand, wants to stifle debate. Throwing a temper tantrum is no way to persuade people to your way of thinking, the latter being necessary in a democracy.

Incidentally, the First Amendment affirms rights to speech, religion, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Smoking or allowing smoking aren't mentioned. Not saying smolers' rights don't exist, only that the First Amendment doesn't cover them.

The fight against Freedom

A smoking ban in Virginia restaurants, no matter how vile smoking is, is a direct violation of the smoker's and store owner's freedoms. Now, last time I checked, the government's job was to protect the rights of the people and not baby sit them.

Sitting near a smoker....

Sitting near a smoker in a restaurant , is like sitting next to someone passing gas while you are trying to eat . The only difference is the smoker doesn't have to smoke , unless it is a drug and they can't help it.
Smokers should be required to wear head gear that captures all the smoke they create and absorb every micron into their body for the full flavor and satisfaction of a good cigarette .

Rights

"""Somehow I think people's First Amendment rights to free speech trump yours to smoke."""

Be that as it may, CS, somehow I think people's private property rights trump the "right" of anyone other than the owner to smokefree dining.

Look at is as the owner exerting his Fisrt Amendment rights.

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