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Chesapeake church's influence, membership grows

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CHESAPEAKE

Nearly 18 years ago, Bob Groves delivered his first Sunday sermon to the dozen or so members of Faith Alive Ministries.

The altar was a folding chair. On the other six days of the week, the sanctuary was a car-sales office.

Not many car-sales offices could hold Faith Alive now. Groves reminisced about those early days at the Feb. 1 grand opening of a packed, 1,550-seat sanctuary with a soaring roof and three massive video screens. So many people flocked to the $11 million, 46,000-square-foot addition that flagmen had to direct traffic in and out.

The nondenominational, evangelical church in Deep Creek has become an influential group within Chesapeake, growing to about 2,000 members and winning the attention of top city and regional leaders.

Chesapeake Mayor Alan Krasnoff, who joined more than a year ago, took the stage Feb. 1 to describe how welcoming the church had been to him and his wife. "You are indeed my extended family, Faith Alive," Krasnoff told the crowd. Of Groves, the mayor said: "I truly love this man. He allows me in his house to have ice cream, to share Starbucks."

U.S. Rep. Randy Forbes sat in the audience for the 9 a.m. service. Del. John Cosgrove was there at 11.

Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson, visiting Faith Alive for the first time, closed the ceremony. "You're going to have to get a bigger church," he told the congregation. "People are going to be flooding in here."

Krasnoff and Groves have become friends. The pastor served as one of several spiritual mentors on Krasnoff's mayoral campaign last year. After a minor inspection issue threatened to delay the new sanctuary's opening, the mayor spoke up at a December meeting packed with top city officials.

At the Feb. 1 service, Groves called building the new Shell Road sanctuary "the biggest stretch, the biggest trial, and the biggest learning curve I've experienced as a pastor." Among the challenges: building a city-required turn lane that created tension with a neighboring church worried about having its space pinched. To make way for the widened road, another neighbor's longtime brick fence was destroyed - and is now sitting, in pieces, across from the church.

Groves said Faith Alive has worked hard to be a good neighbor as it has grown to meet its increasing membership.

The church has had 30 to 40 new guests each weekend since the building opened, Groves said. The expansion also has about $1 million worth of audiovisual equipment, which Groves hopes to use to get into television. It's all about reaching more of the community's lost souls, he said.

"This building is not the goal," Groves said. "This building is a boat to fish in... a hospital for the hurting. We have not arrived."

The service on Feb. 1 began like a rock concert. Worship Director Jason Jackson, a spiky-haired 27-year-old who used to tour with Christian recording artists, sang for 35 minutes backed by a 70-person choir and a band of two guitars, two keyboards and a bongo drummer. "The congregation seems to live up to its name," Forbes said. "It's very lively."

Wednesday's youth service is even edgier. Beforehand, teens played Nintendo GameCube, skateboarded outside, and ate pizza and candy. The service mixed rock music with youth Pastor Steve Bellavia's sermon about dating and finding the right person.

Longtime Faith Alive members say they would not be surprised if the church gains thousands more members. They credit Groves for attracting people with sermons that are easy to relate to.

Raised in the Kempsville borough of Virginia Beach, Groves said he got into drugs and alcohol at age 13. He never finished college. "I was as lost as lost can be," he told his ministry.

In 1984, he said, he survived a frightening solo car crash off Providence Road. "I should have died in a car wreck," he said. "I got out without a scratch. But I realized the road I was on was going to kill me."

After starting as a guest speaker for the church's original 11 members, he began as Faith Alive's pastor on June 2, 1991, he said.

"The church I grew up in couldn't handle me when I was lost," Groves said. "I didn't want to pastor a church that couldn't handle lost people."

And, by setting an informal tone, he wanted to reach people who didn't go to church. Most members refer to him simply as Pastor Bob or PB. "A lot of people feel like they don't belong in church," Groves said. "They've got to get a dress or a suit. That's not who we are."

As the members grew to about 100, the church's sanctuary moved from the Chesapeake car-sales office to a garage in the same building, and then to a 220-seat sanctuary on Canal Road. In 1994, Groves left his power plant operations job at Virginia Power to go full-time at Faith Alive.

With Faith Alive's continued growth, church leaders wanted to build on 20 acres off Shell Road. At the time, the city was searching for alternatives to connect busy Cedar Road with U.S. 17. At least one option would have run through the church's site. Plans for a new route were stalled in 1999, and Faith Alive won city approval for a 500-seat sanctuary, which opened in 2001.

"I just spoke, and it's just grown," Groves said. "There's been no mechanism. There's nothing magic about it. We just do what we do, and people come here."

Eventually, Groves began running three Sunday services there as attendance swelled. By 2006, the church membership topped 1,000.

One new member was Krasnoff. He joined after his wife, Phyllis, started attending services. "The minute I heard the music, I thought, 'I have to tell Alan,' " Phyllis said. "It just hit me. It felt like home." Alan Krasnoff ended up seeing a concert for himself. He now goes there every Wednesday night for Bible study. Groves said he helped advise Krasnoff when the councilman was thinking about running for mayor last year. The pastor also sat by Krasnoff's side at a Chesapeake restaurant in May as he awaited voting results at an election-night party.

The church began construction on its newest sanctuary in 2007.

In November, leaders of the Rehoboth AME Church called the city with concerns about a new turn lane into Faith Alive. Church representatives felt better about the project after a discussion with Chesapeake officials, according to city documents.

The fence that neighbor John P. Flemming IV built 24 years ago was removed so the road could be widened. Chesapeake's city attorney said it appears that the fence was built within the city right-of-way. Flemming wants Chesapeake to pay to put back his fence.

Another hurdle came when a city inspector had issues with the church's stove because it didn't have a commercial hood. The oven was removed, and the issue was solved.

But Krasnoff spoke up about what happened at a Dec. 17 meeting attended by top city officials, saying that the inspector "wanted to shut them down for two weeks" when the opening was supposed to happen within days, according to meeting minutes.

The head of the city's neighborhood services department began an informal inquiry into what the inspector told officials leading the church project. Nothing came of it.

Krasnoff said no one at the church came to him, and that he heard about the situation from the pulpit. He said he would have spoken up for any group that had issues with the city development review process, and didn't know about the informal inquiry that followed his remarks.

Groves said he never asked for Krasnoff's help during the building process.

"I haven't played those cards yet," Groves said.

With its growing popularity, the church might have to expand again at some point.

Groves said the new sanctuary could be enlarged to 3,200 seats with another six weeks of construction. He also imagines another Faith Alive in southern Chesapeake, and one in the Harbour View community in northern Suffolk. "Right now, those are just ideas tucked in my heart," Groves said. "We're not done. We've got a lot to do."

Mike Saewitz, (757) 222-5207, mike.saewitz@pilotonline.com

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Another Response to edisinger

Ur comments r not true.U must not have thoroughly read the posts.As for the cult statement: here’s a couple of the definitions of cult from dictionary.com:“1.a particular system of religious worship;2.an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers;3.the object of such devotion;4.a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.;5.the members of such a religion or sect”—now if u’re referring to 1 of these definitions-then I guess we are a cult who venerates and loves Jesus.However, if u’re referring to this definition: “a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader,” then I believe u have been mistaken.

A Cult? Really....

As I sit hear reading all these comments I can't help but to laugh at the ones that refer to us as a cult. Apparently you have never picked up the Word of God and read it. His word says that we are to be His hands and feet, that which we are! Our pastor has been anointed to preach the gospel. Wait I'm sorry....do you even know what the word anointed means?? He is a teacher to many, he's an excellent leader as well as all of those who lead in this church. To the one who said they were not greeted, we were cold and unwelcoming, well I find that VERY hard to believe, My family and I have attended that church for 6 years now, and NOT ONCE, whether it be a Sunday morning or evening, a Wednesday night, or any event, has there not been a warm hug, a beautiful smile or someone there to welcome those that enter the church doors. For those of you who have commented on the "political status" we have, how about focusing on the fact that we have a political leader, our Mayor, who is a Christ follower, whether he attends our church or not....PRAISE GOD that he seeks God! And as the wife of a cop, I can assure you your tax dollars DO NOT pay for the cop directing traffic in/out of the church park

I have been attending Faith

I have been attending Faith Alive since Aug 2008 with my 2 children ages 10 & 12, & we love this church. Since our 1st visit, we have felt welcome and can't wait to get there every service. We attend on Sunday and also on Wednesday nights. My kids love Wed nights, and make sure their homework is completed, so they can go. They always have friends going with us too.They LOVE it! I pray God continues to grow FAM, so lives will be changed for eternity. Pastor Bob is awesome,and his messages are easily understood. I would encourage anyone looking for a church home to come check out FAM.

Just a reply to ediesinger.....

My friend, to quote you; "Every single person who has posted nice things here about the church has praised the minister,not Jesus." That was because the article was essentially about the church, and not Jesus. There is surely not enough bandwidth here for the members of Faith Alive to fully post our praise, love and devotion to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. PB is just "steering the bus", and we all are on a wonderful ride. Don't think for a second that this church is all about gadgetry and gimmicks. FAM is about reaching souls in a lost and dying world, and leading them to Christ. The true Word of God is spoken here, come see for yourself.

In response to ediesinger

You said in your comment that FAM must be a cult because everyone has talked about going there because of PB, not because of the Word of God. I believe if you'll go back through and reread the posts on here, you will see that whenever PB is mentioned, it's in reference to him speaking the Word of God and how much God has changed lives through the church. Believe me, PB is the FIRST to say that he doesn't have all the answers. I would encourage you to go to our website and watch a sermon online and see for yourself what goes on at FAM. I think you'll come away with a different understanding. God is most certainly alive and well at FAM and you can't walk through the doors without feeling His presence!

Come and visit

I've attended FAM for 2 years. I have a disability and not very much income. It has never cost me to attend this church. Today there is much to be worried about for me and many others. Our economy is failing as well as my health. Attending FAM has helped me to have hope because of the constant message that God is in control. PB teaches from the Bible and tells us how Jesus is the answer to all we need. Christ is the Lord and builder of this church. So if cult in your definition means being Christ followers, well, then we are a cult. If it means we being mislead and/or manipulated by persons of some weird intent, that is false. As in the words of 1 of the songs led by our "spike haired" worship leader, "We are free to run" You are free to come and go, free to believe or to reject and that is the beauty of the message. Christ died and rose again to give us the free gift of eternal life.
I have been greeted every time I set foot in the door and feel lifted to "Heavenly Places" for a while. Thank you FAM! You may go to the alter and give thanks, pray or cry anytime you wish.

Ummm...

If a police officer was to direct traffic in plain clothes using his privately owned vehicle then why have an officer at all. The whole point is to have a COP directing traffic, not some anonymous dude waving a flag.
And you have no idea about the pervasiveness of off duty cops. This is really not topical to Faith Alive at all so feel free to skip over. When I worked as a licensed armed security officer back in the early 90s, I made $5.85 an hour as a supervisor. At the same time, and sometimes at the same places, off duty cops were making nearly $20 an hour. So what did they have to offer that I didn't? More training. Not that their training had much to do with what they were doing. But they had police cars, guns, uniforms, badges that said they were cops. All things that MY TAXES paid for, so that they could compete for my job, making more in their 'second' job than I could make in overtime. Fair? No. That's why I found a more lucrative pursuit.

Let's talk more about this

So, is it the Church that is paying the officers or the city? How is it that the officer can use their city car and uniform if the city is not paying for it? I've seen it as I drove by Calvary on Poplar Hall. I get the same perception as others that the city pays. That perception would not be there if POVs and civilian clothes were worn. I think separation of Church and State come to mind because I don't feel the same way when I see an officer at a store - though I still feel the city is paying them, not the store.

Faith Alive - An excellent Church

My family and I have been attending Faith Alive (FAM) since October 1996. We attended a church 5 miles from our home for 23 years, but felt a need to find a new church home. The first church we visited was FAM (45 mile drive) and we have been there ever since. We felt welcomed and at home immediately. Pastor Bob is excellent both in and out of the pulpit. He preaches the Word so that it is easily understood and the messages he brings are relevant to present day situations. FAM reaches out to the hurting and needy in the community in many ways throughout the year. FAM is very friendly and caring and welcomes everyone. We feel blessed to be a part of the FAM family and highly recommend it to anyone looking for a church.

To JordanDC

You're absolutely right about the officers who direct traffic at churches. But there's even more to it. I'm a local police officer and also a member of Faith Alive. I would gladly direct traffic there for free on my off time (even if it meant missing church! Sorry Bob..) but it's a violation of Federal Law if I do. The Fair Labor Standards Act won't allow public service professionals to donate their time anywhere while acting within the scope of their profession. That includes, fire, rescue and police. I could write an entire book about common misconceptions folks have about public service.

But none of that is even remotely as important as what Pastor Bob and Faith Alive are accomplishing for God in Chesapeake.

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