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Deal puts smoking ban in restaurants on path to passage

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A statewide ban on smoking in most restaurants and bars cleared a major legislative hurdle Thursday and appears likely to pass the General Assembly this winter.

The measure would outlaw smoking in all restaurants and bars with the exception of eateries that build enclosed areas with separate ventilation systems for smokers. Also exempt would be private clubs.

The bill was approved by a 16-to-6 vote in the House General Laws Committee, longtime cemetery for anti-smoking legislation, only hours after the bill was introduced.

The bill, HB1703, reflects a major compromise between Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, a Democrat who for three years has called for an outright restaurant smoking ban to protect health, and Speaker William Howell, a Republican who had insisted that government allow restaurant owners to decide whether it is in their business interests to let patrons light up.

During the past two years, smoking bans have been approved in the Senate but killed in the House, where Howell and other GOP leaders have blocked their passage.

During a lively two-hour hearing before House panel, many activists for and against smoking rights found plenty to dislike about the bill.

Anti-smoking advocates said the measure has glaring loopholes that would render it ineffective in protecting health. They said a proposed $25 fine for violating the law is hardly ample to compel restaurant owners to build expensive, separately ventilated, enclosed rooms for smoking.

The bill offers no relief for restaurant workers, who could be required against their wishes to work in smoking rooms, prompting the American Cancer Society to oppose it.

"This bill does not protect me," said Alie Jo Kuitek, a Richmond bartender who does not smoke. "Other people who choose to smoke should not impact my decision to lead a healthy lifestyle."

Del. Clarence Phillips, R-Dickenson, denounced the bill as a "farce" designed to remove smoking as an issue this fall when all 140 House seats are up for election.

Several small restaurant owners complained that the high cost of building separately ventilated rooms would force them to ban smoking and cause a steep loss in business.

"Eighty percent of my customers smoke," said Randy Estenson, owner of Poppa's Pub in Virginia Beach. "They can't smoke, they don't come."

They argued the requirement would put them at a competitive disadvantage with chain restaurants that could easily afford to build smoking rooms.

"This is not about public health," said Tom Lisk, a lobbyist for the Virginia Retail Merchants Association. "This is about government injecting itself into competing businesses and determining winners and losers."

The bill was endorsed by the Medical Society of Virginia, the Virginia Nursing Association and a number of local government official from around the state.

"It would allow tremendous strides not only in reducing the number of deaths from secondhand smoke, but also from the diseases and illnesses that come from smoke exposure," said Dr. Sterling Reeves, a past president of the state's medical society.

Twenty-three states have smoking bans. Virginia, whose economy was founded on tobacco, has long resisted following suit. The efforts have been opposed by two powerful interests based in Richmond - Philip Morris USA, the nation's largest cigarette manufacturer and its corporate parent, Altria.

Speaker Howell, during a morning news conference with the governor, would not explain what changed his opposition to a smoking ban.

The issue may have become particularly sensitive to Republicans in fall elections that place the partisan control of the chamber in doubt. Anti-smoking groups said polls indicated 75 percent of Virginians favored a ban.

Howell, asked if politics prompted his change of heart, smiled and said in an exaggerated voice, "No."

The bill - carried by Del. John Cosgrove, R-Chesapeake - will be considered by the full House of Delegates early next week.

A nearly identical measure - SB1105 - has been introduced in the Senate by Sen. Ralph Northam, D-Norfolk.

David Sutton, an Altria spokesman, criticized the agreement as a government infringement on business.

"We continue to believe the business owners of restaurants and bars are most familiar with how to accommodate the needs of their patrons," he said. "They should have the opportunity and flexibility to determine their own smoking policy, and then the public can chose whether or not to frequent places where smoking is permitted."

Kaine, while acknowledging the legislation is far from perfect, called it a "dramatic, dramatic advance for health."

Warren Fiske, (804) 697-1565, warren.fiske@pilotonline.com

Julian Walker, (804) 697-1564, julian.walker@pilotonline.com

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Money is tight for Va Bch

Ban smoking and how will this effect your tourist income??? Can't imagine the moneymongers of the Beach are gonna allow this. Then again they don't think past their noses most days.

Restaurant Smoking Ban

You people are all missing the big picture. This is Big Brother at its worst! Start with smoking, then fast food, then people who are overweight, etc. Get with it!

I am a non-smoker who has heart disease anyway. I don't particularly care to be around smoke, but when I choose to hang with people in a bar that are smoking, I do so.

If you have an issue with smoke, don't patronize or work in a restaurant that allows it! Let the marketplace decide. I am seeing way too many idiots that want the Government to hold their hands and tell them what to do, where to go, what to eat... Europe is moving away from Socialism, but we appear heading quickly in that direction. This is but one more step toward a nany state.

One last point - when you see bills that appear to be looking out for you on the face of it, follow the money. See who will benefit from the passage of the legislation. In Russia, they used to refer to the sheep that follow along as "useful idiots". think about it!

Fraim crawls to his buddy

Fraim couldn't shove this down the throats of those who put him in office, so he goes scuttling off to his buddy Kaine in Richmond to make us eat what he wants. And I'm sick to death of these sanctimonious jerks who consistently complain about smoking, and how it's bad for others than those who smoke, but have no problem riding around in vehicles that pollute MY air 400 times more than a cigarette.

Why not be REALLY good about

Why not be REALLY good about it and just offer a tax incentive to places that offer no smoking. That way the owner at least can weigh the difference and decide from there if it makes good business sence to make a no smoking policy. I mean it is still YOUR business. When will you not be allowed to smoke, fart, burp or be at peace in YOUR car or YOUR home?

yes I have

yes I have been to one around here....one time...it was awful...and I'm not only talking about the smoke. But yes, it was smoke filled, as the one in DC used to be. All I'm saying is, if you want to go somewhere bad enough, be it a smoker or non smoker...you will go. It won't make a difference.I'd be willing to bet the strip joints (like all clubs and restaurants) around here would do just fine.

hey John

You ever been to one around here? The only thing going for them is the smoking. If you could actually see clearly through all the smoke you'd probably leave, lmao. I do know what you mean though. I used to hate going home smelling like an ashtray. Again, I am not for or against smoking. I am just against intrusion. Supply and demand deems that if enough money is lost because you let people smoke than you will halt it yourself or go out of business. But, if you happen to be that one place where a majority of your customers do smoke why should you be forced to make them go outside in 30 degree wheather?

hey jerm

I grew up in the DC area and have frequented this same strip club in Georgtowne for 37 years now. As you may know.....DC is now gone no smoking in all clubs and restaurants. I have went to this particular club twice since it has been non smoking. Both times...as it always has been, We've had to stand in line to get in. There business has not suffered at all because of the new rules.It's been nice walking out of there without a headache and not smelling like an ashtray !!!

Btw

Way to go BOB!!!

This is what I am hearing

You don't want smokers to smoke in restaurants/bars etc. but it's ok to tax them and only them to help government (be is Federal, state or city) fix their budgets???? Tax smokers to help with health care for underprivileged children???? Are you also the kind of people that would not stand next to a garbage man who just saved your life because he smells bad??? Hey just wondering.

What is next

I have not smoked for over 21 years and I tend to be with people who do not smoke. However, I do not agree with this intrusion into the private lives of people. If a person doesn't want to go into a restaurant or bar that permits smoking, that is their choice. In regards to employees, they have the same choice. My wife and I always go to non-smoking sections of restaurants when we go out to eat. Furthermore, I have found more and more restaurants that are voluntarily putting out the smoking lamp due to customer demand. This is nothing more than a group of disgruntled citizen who find smoking offensive and who believe that the police power of the government should be used to enforce their way on everyone else. I suspect that many of these same people are staunchly against religious groups who attempt to use the government to enforce their value system on others. The idea of using the excuse of a health hazard in this incident to get their way is leading down a very slippery slope indeed. What's next, regulating the amount of TV someone can watch because some study says it is unhealthy. There are a number of things that can be proven to be unhealthy or offensive to others. The Genera

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