The Virginian-Pilot
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VIRGINIA BEACH
If you got 'em, better smoke 'em now.
That's what Willie Stewart and Michael Henry were doing Thursday afternoon when they heard the General Assembly had passed a ban on smoking in bars and restaurants. They were in a bar, smoking.
"No way," said Stewart, sitting at Keagans Irish Pub in Town Center, dragging on a Marlboro. "Philip Morris is right around the corner."
"But I agree with it," said friend Michael Henry, pulling on a Camel. "I'm smoking right now because I'm allowed to, but if I couldn't smoke, I'd carry myself outside and smoke."
The bill, passed by the Assembly and awaiting the signature of Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, bans smoking in all bars and restaurants with a few exceptions: those with a separate smoking area with its own ventilation system, those with outdoor patios, and private clubs.
While smokers may grumble about the inconvenience and then step outside, for restaurant owners, it might be costly or near impossible to conform to the law and keep smoking patrons happy.
Susan Collins, owner of The Reef on Shore Drive, said that neither she nor her husband has ever smoked, but many of their patrons do, and she doesn't like the government telling her how to run her business.
"If they can't be around smoking," she said, "they don't come in here - there's plenty of places that have nonsmoking."
In fact, a report produced recently by David S. Hardin, a Longwood University professor, showed that more than 65 percent of the restaurants in South Hampton Roads have already gone smoke-free. More than nine out of 10 Virginians live in a place where most restaurants ban smoking, Hardin found.
The Collinses have recently paid more than $4,000 for better ventilation, but The Reef only holds 80 to 90 people. There's hardly enough room to wall off a smoking section.
They lease the spot for the bar, and Susan Collins said she'll have to talk to the landlord to see if there's room for them to put a gazebo outside for smokers.
Ronnie Boone, who owns Greenie's and the Thirsty Camel in Ocean View, said he's never smoked, either, but it's a freedom-of-choice issue.
"They're telling us everything we can do," Boone said. "What's next? You're not going to be able to sneeze in your car?"
Back at Keagans, restaurant manager Curtis Grondwalski said his restaurant has been pondering for more than a year what to do if there was a ban. It's a tough business decision, he said. He gets comments from smokers telling him how much they like coming there; he gets comments from diners saying they wish he'd go smoke-free.
Grondwalski said the restaurant would consider expanding its outdoor patio or creating a walled-off nonsmoking bar area, if space allows it. He's heard of bars in big cities that park a Winnebago or limo outside for smokers in the wintertime. He's heard of a bar in smoke-free New York that on some nights sells a couple hundred "Nico-tinis" - martinis laced with nicotine tea.
The nice thing about a statewide ban, he said, is that it creates a level playing field and removes the pressure from individual restaurants to make the call.
"I think it's one of those things people will adapt to," Grondwalski said. "They go outside to smoke. They come back inside to talk to girls."
Lon Wagner, (757) 222-5119. lon.wagner@pilotonline.com

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What is needed is a complete ban on fuel burning engines in public places. That would settle this issue 100 percent. Engines and their exhaust create pollutants theat not only create personal health hazards, but also damage the environment.
santa
Perfectly stated!
What is needed is a complete ban on smoking in public places.
What is needed is a complete ban on smoking in public places. That would settle this issue 100 percent. Smoking and passive smoke causes cancer.
Cancer causes health care costs to increase for all citizens. On a positive note, it does help the funeral homes and cemeteries.
Fun for you and me!
If I didn't smoke already, I would start just to light one up in a non-smoking area. Just to piss off people like kate43483.
Luckily, I do smoke already. I have my $25 in hand, ready and waiting. Enjoy! Think I'll use my money to make a statement. What an interesting concept.
Hmmm
"And it's about needing government intervention to protect ALL citizens"
Even the ones that don't care, or want protection?
Nice. Nanny state.
numbers will dip at first....
but then everyone will realize that sitting at home just because they want to smoke gets boring. so they'll suck it up and deal with the ban, or become shut-ins. the whining will stop eventually.
"In fact, a report produced
"In fact, a report produced recently by David S. Hardin, a Longwood University professor, showed that more than 65 percent of the restaurants in South Hampton Roads have already gone smoke-free. More than nine out of 10 Virginians live in a place where most restaurants ban smoking, Hardin found."
Quoted from the article, because you non-smokers don't care to read anything at all. Just push your social agenda without any forethought.
Let me write this out in crayon, maybe you'll be better able to understand:
The market changed VOLUNTARILY. This bill didn't need to be passed. Owners' STILL had the OPTION to allow smoking IF THEY WANTED TO.
So then...
let's infringe on the business owner's right to run their business the way they see fit.
Wonderful.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Benjamin Franklin
rbthompson
You are WRONG! This IS about smoking. And it's about needing government intervention to protect ALL citizens because smoker's care more about their addiction than about other's health and well being.
Smoke Free America
The drag is that smoking is an addiction and not an American right. Smokers may tell me I don't know how it is since I don't smoke, I don't want to know. I get tired of being ask "Smoking or non-Smoking" I would say "Let smoking" you still smell it. Because of your addiction you force non-smokers to smell your habit while the eat. I'm happy that those without an addiction can now sit down to eat in a smoke free place.