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Phish in court this afternoon to block bootleg merchandise

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Representatives for the jam-band Phish are due in federal court this afternoon to argue that it should be allowed to stop bootleggers from selling T-shirts, jackets, bumper stickers and other merchandise bearing its trademarked name during its upcoming reunion tour.

The band, which raked in $175.5 million in concert revenues before going on hiatus in 2004, has asked a federal judge here to allow its representatives and police to seize any unauthorized merchandise at its three Hampton Coliseum shows, which open the band's nationwide tour, and at venues across the country.

The injunction would stop any bootlegged sales and allowing for the seizure of unauthorized property.

Phish's shows are more of a community event, with dozens of vendors set up outside concert halls hawking everything from clothes to glassware to so-called Phish Food, another in a series of the band's trademarked products. Authorized vendors are licensed by the band.

Phish had ranked in the top 25 of the highest-grossing tour bands for many years until the group disbanded in 2004. One year earlier, the band grossed $37.8 million, coming in 15th on the annual list of top-selling concert tours, according to Pollstar, a concert trade group.

The Hampton shows, beginning today, will be Phish's first since 2004, kicking off its reunion tour.

In the lawsuit, the band could only identify possible bootleggers as John Doe 1 through John Doe 100 because "bootleggers have also been difficult if not impossible to identify ahead of Phish's concert schedule because they are generally nomadic individuals."

The issue isn't necessarily about money, the lawsuit says. The band says the unauthorized merchandise sales "threaten" the band's reputation because it relinquishes control over the quality and appearance of the merchandise, according to the suit.

"Surely such illicit activity cannot be in the public interest," the suit says.

The band say s the unauthorized merchandise is also of inferior quality and that the band's charities, which receive a cut of the authorized sales, lose money from bootleg sales.

Phish has obtained similar restraining orders prior to past tours. The suit says dozens of other bands have, as well, including Marilyn Manson, The Who, Spice Girls and U2. A few federal judges, however, have denied a handful of requests, typically because they come at the 11th hour with little chance of anyone responding.

Some major acts, such as the Grateful Dead, don't bother seeking such injunctions and allow for open-air markets outside shows.

But Phish claims bootleggers have been a "plague" at their shows.

The band has asked the federal judge to order the U.S. Marshals Service and local and state police to seize any unauthorized property within a 20-mile radius of Hampton Coliseum from 10 hours before to six hours after each performance this weekend. The band also asked that the order be extended to each venue it performs at this year.

A spokesman for Hampton Coliseum did not respond to messages Wednesday.

Tim McGlone, (757) 446-2343, tim.mcglone@pilotonline.com

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phish bootleg merchandise

As a fan who has been seeing this band for 15 years, this is nothing new. Phish isn't trying to crack down on the kids selling hemp necklaces, grilled cheeses, patchwork dresses, etc. What they are after is merch that has the Phish logo on it or says the word "phish". Back in college, I sold t-shirts on the lots for years and never had any problems because I never ripped the band off. In fact I became good friends with Phish security and they never hassled me. The bigger picture here is who is selling the bootleg merch. It's not kids on Phish tour trying to make a buck while supporting the band. It's organized crime (mafia) that prints t-shirts for everything from phish shows, to sporting events, to nascar races. These guys are tough, they carry guns, and the offer nothing positive for the scene. They stick out like a sore thumb at shows and they should be easy targets for the cops. Get them off the lot for good!!!

To Chrise208

I hate to break it to you, but these bands were formed by "stupid hippies" and the "stupid hippies" were the only people who bothered to listen and support them in their infancy. If it wasn't for these "stupid hippies" then you wouldn't know or listen to their music. These "stupid hippies" live for scraping up enough cash to make it to the next show, buy a ticket, and listen and support their favorite band. The amount of revenue that Phish gets from the tickets I'm sure is far greater than they loose from "bootlegged" merchandise.

Your comments show just how completely out of touch you are with these bands and what they represent. Both bands OPENLY acknowledge and accredit the use of hallucinogenic substances to their creativity and influences when creating this music.

Just put down the veggie burrito and get a job? In this economy?! Hah!

I'm glad you don't come to shows because you're negativity and animosity would ruin it for the rest of the people just looking to have a few nights of good, victimless, fun.

Regardless, the bootlegged merchandise that is usually for sale is fun! It features different designs and styles than the band offers through their "of

RE: Traveler

For the record I am a huge Phish and Dead fan, but I can not even fathom going to a show anymore because I can't stand you stupid hippies. Traveler said "people out here need money", we'll turbo why don't you put down the bong and veggie burrito and get a job instead of exploiting a bunch musicians. You neo-Hippies are the most selfish, spoiled, ridiculous people I could ever imagine meeting. Kudos to the City of Hampton and the Coliseum for cracking down on the rifraf and cheers to Phish for protecting their interests from someone who actually buys their music.

This should go over about as

This should go over about as well with Phish fans as did Facebook's little fiasco last week with their "Term of Service" changes. Anyone who has ever walked around the parking lot before a Phish show would have to wonder how the police could be asked come in a confiscate bootleg merchandise while practically ignoring the fact nobody has a permit to sell anything at all or a permit to prepare and sell food or that nobody is smoking tobacco out of those glass pipes or that many fans are "drunk in public" or high or tripping on something. Then of course, they would have to ignore all the smoking in the arena itself which is illegal or the ticket scalpers or ... You can go on and on.

The point being this; Be careful what you ask for.

The police are unbelievably tolerant of the goings on at Phish shows but, when asked to enforce the laws, they cannot, should not, be asked or expected to do so selectively. Otherwise, Phish could be perceived as a bunch of hypocrites and that certainly is not the case. Right?

A Twenty Mile radius enforcement Zone? Get real.

At best the police will deal with vendors set up on parking lots nearby.

If this IS about law enforcement and NOT about the money, then Phish should not be outraged if some of their fans start getting arrested for drugs.

If police are going to be called in, why not bring the drug dogs with them and deal with THAT illegal activity as well?

After all. This is only about enforcing the law, and not about using the police to protect a band's financial interests, right?

Klaatu barada nikto

Who?

Never heard of them, don`t know who they are! Don`t care!

Tax dollars should

Our tax dollars should not go toward ensuring more revenues for a band.

You're saying tax dollars should not go toward enforcing the law?

No Way

"The band has asked the federal judge to order the U.S. Marshals Service and local and state police to seize any unauthorized property within a 20-mile radius of Hampton Coliseum from 10 hours before to six hours after each performance this weekend."

Our tax dollars should not go toward ensuring more revenues for a band.

something f-f-f-phishy

Despite the fact that my comments make too much sense
for the posty police, here it is.
Let the Pilotonline comment police be assigned at Phish
shows and I guarantee no Phish bootleg stuff will be sold.
Instead Pilotonline bootleg stuff will be sold. Illegal
proceeds would go to the defense of free speech.
Seriously folks, people selling in the periphery at shows
should just pay a flat fee. Why waste time with this. As
long too as the city gets some in their pockets, the state
taxes so on, kids get to school next day.
Yes sir I have a license to post here. These aint bootleg comments. Look at the quality of these. Thats that fake
stuff down there. I dont do fake...aw man c'mon.

workers

The band hires private investigators and off duty police to do the confiscating then they make you sign cease and dissist papers. They are serious about taking stuff, always have been. It's always a party though so see you at the show!!!

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