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Virginia Beach needs to engage residents on light rail

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Virginia Beach has a chance to do it right this time. Its deal to buy the 10.6-mile rail line between Norfolk and the resort area allows the city to begin planning the transportation and redevelopment policies necessary for it to prosper for the next few decades.

Light rail will take years to build, and it will be expensive. But as Mayor Will Sessoms said, it is "the backbone of our future business growth."

Sessoms' announcement Thursday capped a decade of sometimes acrimonious discussions between Virginia Beach and Norfolk Southern Corp. over the 66-foot-wide right of way, which runs from Newtown Road, past Town Center and Hilltop to Birdneck Road.

The city assessed the property at $7.3 million; the rail company said it was worth $40 million or more. Negotiations stalled until Sessoms called rail company executives shortly after his election in November and pushed for a deal.

The city will pay $10 million - more than it wanted but likely less than the cost of condemnation. The state's share is $20 million. Hampton Roads Transit agreed to pay $5 million, and $5 million will come from easement payments.

Had the sale not been sealed, the property might have been tied up in court for years. Or Norfolk Southern might have sold pieces of the land to private companies or individuals, making it difficult for the city to control this critical east-west corridor.

Sessoms deserves much credit for this important first step, one that Norfolk didn't accomplish until 2005, after it had decided to build the line and seek permits. Now the mayor and Beach City Council must make up for the Beach's failure to lead in the last citywide light rail discussion, in 1999.

Even before the permitting process begins and the environmental impact study is complete, they must engage residents in discussions about this new transportation option. How might a bus feeder system be structured to ensure that people use it? Where should parking lots be built to accommodate the most riders? How can Virginia Beach learn from Norfolk's mistakes?

Rather than shut down skeptics, city leaders must start laying out the case for, as Sessoms put it, "weaning ourselves off the stranglehold of automobiles."

Ten years ago, when Virginia Beach voters defeated light rail by a 55-45 percent margin, naysayers were the only ones campaigning. Council members sat mum on the sidelines, ensuring a win for the doubting and suspicious.

If council members sit this one out, as Councilman Harry Diezel seemed to suggest Thursday - "I'm taking a wait-and-see approach" - the city and the region will be stuck with a transportation system designed for the 1960s, when land was plentiful and fuel cheap. That model already is outdated and inefficient, as well as ill-equipped to serve the needs of Hampton Roads for the next 40 years.

Sessoms has been criticized for backtracking on his campaign statement to take the light rail issue to the voters again. But state Sen. Ken Stolle, who helped get the state money for the right of way, was correct that it's the council's responsibility to decide. Rather than abdicate that duty, city leaders need to develop a public participation process while the studies are under way and funding sources are being investigated.

Bring in experts from cities that built light rail lines to discuss how they're working and what they wish they'd done differently. Devise a plan similar to the multiyear process that led to the convention center.

It took Norfolk 13 years to get its project under way, starting with a 1995 study.

Virginia Beach's work must begin now.

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lightrail

bus systems are inadequate on their own. this area has poor urban design because of all the waterways and housing developments that use cul de sacs and sprawl outward that will make it even worse to setup a adequate bus system for the area. buses still have to maintain the rules of the road and are subject to the same traffic problems of cars. if you have a bunch of neighborhoods that have no outlets and all the cars in the morning use the same road to go get out of a certain area it is less efficient then a urban grid where you have multiple ways of going there and the buss will be stuck in traffic just like every other person. unlike a grid where at least the city can have several buses nearby that the rider can walk to if the one is stuck in traffic.
as for the Virginia Beach oceanfront light rail. considering how much traffic 44 has each day and that the bus route to and from Norfolk/oceanfront on Virginia beach blvd is one of the most well rode bus route in this area makes it a pretty good nominee for a light rail route. it once made a lot of money as a toll rode why wouldn't it make it own money back as a light rail. remember that most cities started with just one simple r

and if you are really cynical

Okay, okay if you really want to get cynical there is one other developmental agenda the hotel consortium could be pursuing...

The only potentially developable land left that would be serviced by light rail is Oceana.

So the hooked up politicians are pushing this agenda, but have yet to say how they would get rail to outlying areas such as......oh let's say General Booth and Princess Anne, hmmmm, okay then how about N. Great Neck and Shore drive...hmmmm not there either, well maybe Lynnhaven and Holland Road???? any chance???? So if the rail really cannot feasibly go to any of these areas then to whose benefit is this rail being built?

In this case it would mean Beach politicians know exactly when they are going to force the navy out, in regards to ridding VA Beach of Oceana, and they aren’t clueing in their constituents.

Plain and simple this is either one more boon to corporate hotel developers, so they can convert block after block of near ocean front property and turn it to yet more (much needed) concrete wasteland with low paying, seasonal jobs. Or it is a hope to get rid of one of the most economically stabilizing forces in Virginia Beach.....The United State

Welcome to Virginia Beach,

Welcome to Virginia Beach, owned and operated by the hotel developers, and 6 dollar an housekeeping jobs and all the cheap tips you can hussle.

Dear Tourist: Imagine, direct transportation from...from...uh well, anyway once you drive all the way to VA Beach you can park at the outlying lot, (only 12 miles away) LTR your way to the oceanfront, please don't bring luggage(as a matter of fact there is a $500 per bag charge) we have blocks and blocks of walking, shopping, and cite seeing amongst the cement and stucco canyon walls.

The only place the rail runs in Virginia Beach is straight to the Oceanfront.....since we all know VA Beach doesn't really want the patronage of other citizens from the local area....after all the rest of us are just riff raff. Most be the disappearing oceanfront and the new "walking" retail environment that this rail is really pandering to. Sheesh folks just because you are paying doesn't mean you start thinking about light rail as something to benefit the actual citizens. Silly kids, taxpayer money is for the oceanfront development czar.

re: hwatkins

Don't start bothering the TLP/VBTA with reality: they have no concept of it.

Point is, it's their auto-centric "suburban living" (as Reid put it in another thread) model that got this country in the mess it is today. People went out and got subprime and interest only loans to buy into the delusion that they sell. The housing market tanked, the banks are teetering on insolvency, while the auto-centric mindset meant we never built the mass transit we need. They screwed everything up.

Naysayers, meet reality

Reid, Doc Tabor, etc:

Light Rail is a reality. It will be running soon and stop at the VB/Norfolk line.

To believe that this will not be extended is ridiculous. The real question is will it be done sooner (read: cheaper in this construction market) or later?

61% of Beach voters reject Sessoms - no mandate

Developer Mike Barrett salivates over the hope that he can line his pockets as a result of transit-oriented development (TOD). He shamelessly helped run SPSA into the ground and he has the nerve to attack me for pointing out the truth in the biased Pilot editorial? How sad. Mike likes to cling to his talking point that because his business pals spent over $600K to buy the mayor's seat in VA Beach somehow that election means voters in Virginia Beach voted to have light rail constructed down the old NS right of way. That's ridiculous! Mike doesn’t like referenda because his pet projects are rejected when voters are asked direct questions on specific projects that Mike and his business friends want. Mike ignores that Scott Taylor ran for mayor and made Light Rail a center piece of his campaign. Fact, more citizens voted for John Moss than Scott Taylor. Using Mike’s logic, there shouldn’t be any Light Rail because John Moss “won” over Scott Taylor. Obviously Mike doesn’t want the taxpayers to have any voice in how our money is going to be spent. Considering his role in the AIG-like SPSA disaster, what intelligent taxpayer would listen to Mike Barrett?

Is a promise still a promise if given by a politician?

The fact of the matter is that Mayor Will Sessoms promised the people of Virginia Beach a referendum on light rail. Therefore if there is no referendum then it can be quite clear that the new Mayor, Mr. Sessoms, has a problem with the truth and you better hang on to your wallets boys and girls. Oops, too late!

What?

This editorial is sad. I support light rail but frankly the editorial didn't bring anything new to the table.

I believe the voters should have a vote in this issue after all, they are the folks who will fund and be the ridership if it is going to be successful. It isn't 1998 anymore... Council should trust the voters and put it to a final vote after they buy this 40 million dollar path.

Wait! Who Won?

Reid's histrionics are more than I can take. To read his post, you would have thought John Moss, the prime antagonist of Light Rail, had just won the election for Mayor. Wait! What do the facts tell us? Moss, the only opponent of LRT among the four candidates, polled less than 16% of the vote for Mayor. Fact is, the citizens/voters want light rail, and despite the inevitable campaign of fear, intimidation, and threat already being waged by the VBTA and their libertarian allies, light rail will prevail because it is the way to create sustainable growth in a city that will fail if it does not change its emphasis on suburban sprawl. What are these fear mongers afraid of? Light rail is simply a mode of transport; it is not a disease nor a virus. Many communities around the country have prospered with light rail as one form of transportation. So you think roads are free? Think again, and stop with the scare tactics. It makes you look silly.

Making it to hard

If they really wanted the parcel they could've just taxed it at the $40mil NS says it's worth, save the extra tax revenue and buy it outright, or maybe NS would be more willing to sell it if it's taxes increased by a factor of 17!

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