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Because of fees, concert ticket prices are just the start

Posted to: Entertainment Music Spotlight

Greetings, concertgoers, and welcome to today’s edition of “Guess the Ticket Price.”

For those who have not played before, it works like this: We put the base price of a concert on the screen, then contestants guess how much the ticket will cost after taxes and fees.

Ready? First up is Coldplay, May 20 at the Verizon Wireless Virginia Beach Amphitheater . Let’s pretend we’re not rich – that’s the easy part, huh? – and we don’t want to pay $97.50 to be up front. So, what’s the final cost for a $35 lawn seat?

Forty-five dollars?

Oops, so sorry ma’am, you’ll have to watch the clips on YouTube.

Fifty-five? Well, let’s put the breakdown up on the board: $35 for the ticket, $6 (per ticket) for parking, $3.50 for a ticket tax – and after that it gets a little squishy.

If you buy online or over the phone, Live Nation – the amphitheater operator and concert promoter – charges a ticket fee of $13.85. That brings your cost to $58.35. If you want to get your ticket at Blockbuster, add $2.50 more and your total’s up to $60.85.

You can avoid those charges by driving to the box office, but they’ll still get you with a $5 box office fee, kind of like if your bank charged you for going inside the branch. Still, that’s the cheapest way to get the $35 ticket – $49.50.

Now, add-on ticket fees are nothing new – at the first-ever concert, there was probably a caveman charging his friends a “convenience fee” for saving them seats on a log. But with the country’s two largest concert businesses – Ticketmaster and Live Nation – having proposed a merger, Congress and everybody else might be scrutinizing the charges again.

Critics of Ticketmaster have latched on to the sale of Bruce Springsteen tickets in February, when buyers first got an error message on their computer screens, then saw an ad for TicketsNow offering seats for hundreds of dollars more than face value. TicketsNow, it turns out, is a reseller owned by Ticketmaster.

“That’s an example of how their greed is catching up to them,” said Ma’rie Hodges, spokeswoman for , Seven Venues, which includes Scope Arena, Chrysler Hall, Harrison Opera House and four other Norfolk buildings.

When Olivia Newton-John came to Norfolk last month, Hodges said, the city contacted Ticketmaster and instructed the company not to let any sales roll over into TicketsNow.

There’s almost no way to avoid paying at least a minimal fee or two – even if it’s just the 50-cent facility fee at Scope Arena – for any major event. But Hodges and almost everyone else in the business say that if you want to spend as little on fees as possible, drive to the box office in person. And bring cash for Seven Venues, because paying with a credit card prompts a fee.

But before taking up pitchforks and storming the Ticketmaster and Live Nation offices, listen to what the ticket seller does for nTelos Wireless Pavilion in Portsmouth. Ken MacDonald is president of IMG, which is like a “mini-mini-mini Live Nation” that runs the venue.

When IMG chose a ticketing company, it looked at the sprawl of Hampton Roads and took into account that Hampton Roads is one of the largest markets in the country for “cash ticket-buyers.” IMG wanted lots of outlets, spread all over the region, where people could buy tickets in person.

IMG preferred quality ticket stock – the actual paper that tickets are printed on – and a company that could provide data as to where buyers live, and where and when they purchase tickets. A Ticketmaster ticket, MacDonald said, is tough to counterfeit: If you hold a lighter to it, it burns a unique way; if you photocopy it, the fake won’t have the same markings as the original.

Plus, he said, some ticket companies want the venue to buy the machines and software, whereas Ticket­master provides them.

But again, a face-value ticket for Celtic Woman on June 7 at nTelos goes for $27. On top of that, there’s a $6.65 “convenience fee” that goes to Ticketmaster, a $4 facility fee ($3 for the venue, $1 for parking) and a $3.50 processing charge.

John Vlautin, spokesman for Live Nation in Los Angeles, points out that the concert producer and newly minted ticketing agency doesn’t just sit back and pocket those fees. Live Nation employs about 365 people – box office staff, stagehands, food service, security – to put on the typical show at the Virginia Beach amphitheater, Vlautin said.

“The fees are just an extension of the ticket price. Fans would rather just see a $60 ticket, but the push-pull here is the artist doesn’t want to be seen as charging $60.”

Lon Wagner, (757) 446-2341, lon.wagner@pilotonline.com

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Concert tix

What a timely article! I just emailed Live Nation and told them (for what it's worth) that I was not buying any more tickets online until they lowered their fees. I meant it. Everyone should do the same. They need to cater to the times just like everyone else is having to do. Otherwise...empty seats!

Amazing!

Do the artist that play a Live Nation venue take into consideration that a ticket posted at $35 becomes over $60? I mean that is a huge difference for their fans. I went to Ntelos Pavilion to purchase tickets for ZZ Top and it was $2 above the actual ticket price. I was actually shocked at that! I felt really good leaving there...sort of like someone was not stabbing me in the back but had my back! I went to Billy Joel at the Va Beach Amphitheater and the only way I could get a seat was to pay $300 for the orchestra section I charged it and sucked it up because I am a huge fan. I had 2 extra tickets that I had purchased for my neighbor and they were not able to come. I put them on eBay for less then what I paid and sold them. When I got to the venue the guy that was going to buy them was friends with the marketing director (long haired guy) that told him they had dumped some tickets and the buyer bought seats 3 rows in front of mine for $99 leaving me holding mine. I said bye to VBA that day. I will never go back.

Fleecing of America

Regular concert goers have been complaining about this for years. Go on any group web site blog; i.e.Allmanbrothers.com, and there are thousands of posts regarding the same thing from all over the country. The Bruce Springsteen issue just brought it to the media attention because Springsteen(God Bless him)told Ticketmaster to shove it, and because a lot of mainstream people (i.e. local NJ politicians, movers and shakers)also got shut out from buying tickets. Since then Ticketmaster has tried to put on a show about how it wasn't intentional, and that all scalpers should die, even their own TicketsNow, but it's all PR for the media. The fact of the matter is that as long as we (Concert goers) continue to pay these outrageous fees or buy tickets from scalpers the fees and scalpers will exist. Simple supply and demand.

greedy bast...... boycott

buy the album or video at planet music , stay home and watch it on the bigscreen boycott these places and drive the prices down oh also in your article you forgot to mention once your inside these events they ream you for concessions like $5 for 20oz water ,

Ticket price inflation

Which is exactly why I stopped going to these venues. It's called price gouging and greed will catch up to these places. Music is in my blood but I refuse to be taken to the cleaners just to try and enjoy a concert. Better to rent a DVD , stay home and avoid the crowds.

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