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Chesapeake home among first to install wind power

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George Bates works on the second of two wind turbines installed at his Chesapeake home last week to generate electricity. (Steve Earley | The Virginian-Pilot)


The cost
George and Helen Bates installed wind turbines hoping to cut their $300- a-month electric bill by 20 percent. The turbines cost $6,500 each and an additional $2,000 for installation, bringing the total cost to $15,000.

CHESAPEAKE

The crowd gathered around the giant eggbeaters, looking up with reverence.

At least that's what the scene looked like from the country road that runs by George and Helen Bates' house near the Great Dismal Swamp.

On closer inspection, the two 30-foot-tall spinning cylinders were wind turbines that the Bateses hope will cut their electricity bill.

"Put some landscaping around them, and they're going to be beautiful," said a proud George Bates, who'd just raised the turbines to be vertical with his Chevy Silverado, completing

the final installation step known as "the tipping."

As city officials craft zoning regulations to allow for turbines and as regional leaders push for a wind farm off Virginia Beach, the Bateses became one of the first families in the state to take the wind power plunge.

Suffolk has a wind turbine ordinance, and Virginia Beach is working on one. Chesapeake is exploring the idea.

After some initial friction with the city - a letter to his congressman and the City Council smoothed the way - Bates got a permit under the existing "accessory structure" code.

Wednesday's turbine-raising brought out friends, neighbors and people who said they might just get a turbine themselves.

"I'm definitely thinking about it," said the Bateses' neighbor Amos Swogger, "but I'm going to wait to see his electric bill."

The turbines cost $6,500 each, and the couple spent $2,000 on installation, bringing the total cost to about $15,000. George said he figures they'll shave 20 percent off their $300-a-month electric bill, or $60, which roughly translates to 21 years to break even.

"The sound of money, isn't it nice?" said Lou Lloyd-Zannini, who'd driven up from Currituck County, N.C., to watch the turbines go up. The y were quietly whirring in the steady northeast breeze.

"I hope it's the sound of saving money," Helen Bates said, with a serious laugh. But it's not all about the money. The Bateses said they want to be environmentally conscious, too.

George had another motivation. He wanted to be the first in Virginia to have this kind of turbine, called the Windspire.

He and Helen saw it featured on a home improvement TV show last month. He called the next day, and two days later met a representative from Mariah Power, the company based in Reno, Nev., that makes them.

Helen wanted one; George wanted four. They compromised on two.

George, who owns a commercial construction company, poured the concrete pilings that support the turbines and dug a long trench for the electrical wires. As soon as the turbines went up, they were producing power.

"Are you happy now, George?" Helen asked, as they gazed up at the shiny spinning twins.

George said, yes, he was happy. "The main thing is I'm the first one."

Aaron Applegate, (757) 222-5122, aaron.applegate@pilotonline.com



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Payback on WindSpire

It's a great way to produce clean electricity and has a very rapid payback IF it's installed in a windy location. Which is limited to most coastal communities and some inland areas. I'd do it if I had more wind. If I had listened to all the naysayers 5 years ago when I was considering a solar electric system installation, I would have missed out on a great thing. Only 5 years of operation in NJ, and I've gotten my initial investment back, thanks to NJ rebates and now Renewable Energy Credit trades/sales. Now on top of $500/year in direct savings at today's electric rates, and $1500/year + in Renewable Energy Credit income, I have a net zero annual utility bill. Please tell me where I can do better investing in something else.

The government, and therefore we taxpayers, have been subsidizing oil exploration and coal has been removed from state/federal land for zero royalties, so it's cheaper because of amazing tax breaks for decades. Not to mention the communities in complete ruin from coal dust and other hazardous environmental conditions created from coal harvesting. Let's remove tax breaks at all levels and see how "cheap" fossil fuels really are compared to renewables.

Egg beaters

Well, I wonder how the state and the city of Chesapeake will collect taxes and fees on electricity when the public can unplug Dominion Power and everyone has the capability to be self sufficient for their electricity? I would love to be self sufficient for everything. Fuel for my car, natural gas, and electricity. Not that I care about reducing my "foot print" on the environment and all that rubbish, but to save money for myself.

Mariah windspires

Dr. Tabor you rock!
Thank for the view from space.

One thing we can be certain of . . .

Power costs are going to go UP. You can be certain they're not going to go down. We are already seeing the price for gasoline rising again. There's a good chance that in a few years these investments in alternative energy generation are going to start looking very good. Then we'll have to see how the horse and buggy/kerosene lighting crowd react.

You have a point there

If the climate change scammers succeed in getting this Cap & Trade thing through, they may well succeed in driving power costs high enough to make wind power feasible.

But that will only be because conventional forms of power generation will be driven so high that they will become equally unaffordable.

The result, of course will be wealthy frauds like AlGore cashing in on a lower standard of living for all average Americans, while China and India keep right on using cheap power to grow their industry at our expense.

But at least we will be able to feel noble, as we freeze in the dark.

Give it a chance !!

To the members of the “Flat Earth Society” who are posting here, the first consumer tape recorders sold for around $5,000 and the first dvd recorders around $2,300. Use common sense; the cost of these things will drop appreciably as the region progresses. The exception being Chesapeake, who still studying the problem of letting horseless buggies drive on the dirt roads

It's their money..

and they are free to spend it any way they see fit. It's debatable that they'll ever break even, their present $300 monthly bill will no doubt go up in time, so whatever savings they realize will still mean that their break even point keeps getting pushed farther and farther into the future. Plus, they don't know yet what any repair costs may be if these things should require them. But, good for them, let them have at it!

The payback time is longet than stated

By buying the 'beaters, the money is spent now so it cannot be invested in an income producing manner. Thus he is losing in investment income about the same amount he is saving, unless maintenance is required in which probable case he is even worse off.

Invest the money now and spend it when technology provides better solutions.

Obviously, the guy didn't

Obviously, the guy didn't have a financial hardship when deciding on this venture. He's making an effort to reduce his footprint and reliance on the grid. Why not applaud him for his efforts. If I could afford it, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Sometimes it's about critical mass and less about the almighty dollar.

ROI for homeowners for wind power will never match

Hyperion Power Module. $25M for the unit powering 10k households = $250 for 7-10 years worth of power. Now that's affordable power!
Research the units construction and safety before replying please.

Not very practical

The average home owner would not be able to do what George Bates did; dig, prepare, and pour the concrete foundations, dig the trenches for the wiring, and raise the windspires. The average home owner would probably have to add another $10,000 to the cost for having a contractor come in and do all that work, and now you have a $25,000 investment to save $60 a month. If the objective of the was to be the first to have windspires in your neighborhood, why the info about their $300 a month electric bill and paltry savings expected? I'd like to be the first on my block to own a new Rolls Royce Phantom, but, much like the windspires, it just isn't practical. And unless jwb is privy to a technology breakthrough on storing electricity, when the wind doesn't blow, the electricity doesn't flow. George Bates will confirm that.

Bravo for a job well done! Read the article!

Most of the comments from Poster, do not seem to get it. Like the guy said, "it is NOT all about the money. He stated he is the first, and this is the essence of the article. Eventually others will get the idea and hopefully the idea will get generated.(no pun intended) Once that happens, these windmills will get advanced in technology and will start the saving of electricity and gas at a even greater level and cost could go way down for the equipment and installation.
As far as the poster that made the comment that the wind does not always blow and the sun does not always shine, is ignorant to the technology.

Bravo for a job well done.

As has been said,

just investing that money would have given a better net return over time.

Maybe it's just me, but since I'm only paying around half that much in electricity, I wonder if there wouldn't have been other ways of saving that money, by making the house more energy efficient.

Well, anyhow, have fun with the eggbeaters.

I ran into the same obstacle

I ran into the same obstacle when I investigated solar panels. It would take 640 sq/ft of solar panels to generate 50% of my electrical usage at an installed cost of $44,000. Keep in mind I also would still be paying Dominion Power the other 50% at their current rates.

There is no rational justification in spending this amount of money unless one is well off financially and wants to impress their neighbors.

Everyone is looking at the return on investment

with todays electricity rates, but after commodities take off again electricity rates will skyrocket, increasing the return on investment.

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Everyone knows that the energy of the future lies wihin the oceans currents. Thats right ocean currents they never stop flowing!

Faster Ways to Save

I changed out my old electric A/C - natural gas heat system with a Hybrid heatpump/gas heat system. It was about $8900 including using a electronic controlled louver system to control 3 zones in what was a single zone house. This has reduced my electricity consumption an average of 350KW (18% reduction) a month and my natural gas usage by 24 CCF/month (57% reductio). All told I am saving over $100/month on utilities based on paying by the budget plan. My payback period is significantly shorter than this system for about the same results.

A swing... and a miss?

I wanted so badly to think this was a good idea. It would help promote alternative energy to homeowners. But, from this article at least, NO ONE is going to spend $15K to save $60 or so a month? That price is un-attainable for the average homeowner, esp.. with property dropping in value everyday. I agree with mopar, there are several ways to easily cut 20% off of an electric bill. With no where near the cost? And if you want to drop some money like that, let me be the first to suggest geo-thermal. I do believe that will save well over 20% on your bill and you still helping the environment by using LESS electric. Even installing a simple solar powered system to run just the geo-thermal unit would be a better investment. I hope to see better reporting then this when it comes to motivating people to be energy conscious. This article did just the opposite!

Its worse than that

$15,000 invested at 6% interest would yield $62.50 a month. So, the $60 in electricity saved is canceled out completely and he is paying $2.50 a month to hear the things whir.

wow

tell us please---

who is paying 6%?

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