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Navy eases uniform policy to allow off-base wear

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The Navy's digital blue camouflage is officially ready for prime time. On Friday, Navy officials announced they were dropping the ban on sailors wearing the new Navy Working Uniform off-base.

Since the uniform debuted six months ago, sailors were allowed to wear it only while commuting to and from work - except for emergencies. Routine stops at gas stations and convenience stores were prohibited.

The restrictions were lifted after Navy leaders agreed that the sailors are wearing the uniforms properly. The shift means, among other things, that sailors can grab a meal off-base in their new duds.

The change in policy was a relief for Petty Officer 2nd Class Erica Pearson at Norfolk Naval Station, who had to change clothes each time she ran an errand, including taking her son to and from day care.

"It makes life a lot easier," she said.

- Jaedda Armstrong



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The uniforms are a sign of times

As a retiree, I see things I disagree with. But I remember that when I came in and enthusiastically embraced changes that enhanced my quality of life, there were retirees that thought those were horrible too. But the service continued on.

The uniform was designed by and for the active duty folks for the mission they are doing today. Not for the retirees, not for yesterday's mission. The military is moving toward a more pragmatic uniform. Pockets are for putting things in, not for looks. They are now designed to be easy access. Boots are suede, low maintenance because really, polishing boots to drag through the mud or greasy bilges is only stupid and a waste of time. By not requiring sailors to change before going home, they work until liberty vs. running off to change 15-20 min early.
The other services have trusted and expected their people to behave appropriately and wear the uniform correctly, and they got it. The Navy expected their people not to behave correctly and wear the uniform improperly, and they got it. Everything about this is progress, and yes, retirees and old timers will lament. Today's sailors will have the same complaints about tomorrows. It is t

Uniforms off base

Retired Chief here. I never understood the whole uniform off base controversy to begin with. I didn't wear my uniform at home, therefore it follows that I would have to change into civvies at some time, right? It was just as easy to change on the ship before I left as it was to change at home. That also allowed me to go anywhere I wanted to and do anything I needed to without worrying as to whether or not it was allowed in a working uniform. Problem solved.

Anyway, if the working uniform in question was these hideous looking things, there wouldn't even be a question as whether or not I would change before leaving. I would be racing to get out of them.

Navy?

Just curious but why is the Navy wearing camouflage uniforms? Are they now growing tree's on ships? Camouflage uniforms to match the terrain of the wilderness makes a lot of sense. But why is the navy trying to look like a Marines? Is there a major plan that will have Navy personnel no longer be sailors but now engage in jungle warfare? What a waste!

jwb

Functionality?

So, if you work indoors at a desk or computer or in the galley, wearing camouflage and combat boots helps you do your job? The female sailor checking out medical records at Boone Clinic wears camouflage. Why?

I'm confused

A uniform helps you do your job? How would the new service uniform help me do my job? How does the mess crank t-shirt help the SAILOR in the galley do their job? How did utilities or dungarees help me do my job? Dungaree pants would keep me stay afloat if I fell overboard but......

Sure, may be the SAILOR at Boone Clinic, if all that SAILOR does the entire day is checks out medical records, should be wearing the new service uniform instead. But, chances are, said SAILOR will also be required to clean. Would you rather they waste time changing uniforms?

As for the E7/8/9's, they have earned the right to not have to clean. Several people have a lot of disparaging remarks about today's Chief community. If you have been in the military, you know full well there are things that you earn as you move up the ranks. Before anyone jumps on me, I am not a Khaki, chose the wrong rate for that.

Dirty Work

You never know when a young Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine will be pulled away to mop the floor, take out trash, or plant a flowerbed on any given day. They have to do that because the E-7/8/9 Tier doesn't want to get their hands dirty, too busy with politics.

I have to say that the new

I have to say that the new BDU design is crap. It should have been matched to one of the other services. But, they never asked me so...
The one main reason that sailors are not allowed out on the town in their working uniforms is that the majority of them look like bums. They don't look sharp, that have paint, primer or grease stains all over them. They usually don't even display a demeanor of pride; no cover from car to building, BDU trousers unbloused, wrinkled uniform, etc. Case in point; 6 months ago I saw a young man pull up to 7-11 and get out of his car with a dew-rag on his head......wearing utilities. This isn't the first time I have seen it either. UNSAT Sailor. But those people don't care. But, they are the first to complain about things too.
I know, you say "that's not ME!! Well, one aw crap ruins 10,000 atta-boys. Sorry, that's society.
Then there is the sailor that "stretches" the rules of uniforms out on town. The one that doesn't stick to the "gas, Daycare, Store for Milk" stops. Like the ones I see in the Mall, 7-11 (without gas pumps) getting cigarettes and coffee....just this morning mind you.

Now, for those of you that do wear your uniform with pride out

Navy Uniforms...

Ive been reading about how all of the "old-timers" do not like the new uniforms for the simple fact that they do not look "sharp". This seems very funny to me. When is the last time that anyone joined any of the services to "look sharp". The purpose of the BDU is for functionality, not looks.

This is not a New York Fashion Runway...This is the United States Military...

I agree with an earlier post that questioned the fact that all the services have different "duty" uniforms..what is the point...is this not ONE (singular) United States Military?

Ive been reading about how

Ive been reading about how all of the "old-timers" do not like the new uniforms for the simple fact that they do not look "sharp". This seems very funny to me. When is the last time that anyone joined any of the services to "look sharp".

My point exactly that the newbie "young ones" in today's service with the mindset just like you don't care how they look.

And yes, we are the United States Military, the elite Military of the entire world. We are not some Afgan-looking piece of crap/hat on crooked/pants falling down/needed a shave 3 days ago Military. Be proud or get out and stop sponging the paycheck.

Anyone Remember Zumwalt?

Give it 5 years, they'll be back to lookin' like sailors oughta look. This is the NAVY!!! Not the Army, Not the Marines, hopefully never like the air force.

Issue with the AF?

I am going to assume by that comment and your spelling that your ASVAB score wasn't high enough to be an Airman.

Higher Ups

It all boiled down to this...Those higher up in the food chain, now wearing the SAME uniform as the lower ranks, were finding themselves stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one hand, they wanted the stricter policy, on the other hand, that policy also applied to themselves.
Amazing how quickly things get changed...LOL!

Lost identity since the 70’s

I bet the navy will change out uniforms again in about five years.

The Curent E7/8/9 Community

The reason the Navy decided to let this uniform be worn off base was because the current E-7/8/9 community wouldn't enforce the rule.

Hopefully, we'll see the Chiefs, Senior Chiefs and Master Chiefs come back but like the dinosaurs, not too likely.

On base

Seems to me the Navy needs to worry first about what their sailors look like on the base. I am a Navy wife of 23 years and also grew up with a father that spent 28 years proudly and I am shocked at the way I see some of these kids wearing their uniforms ON the base, let alone off the base. I guess it's ok to wear your pants below your butt as long as you have your shirt tucked in (to hide the underwear) and you have on a belt. Please..you aren't fooling anyone-oh wait, yes I guess you are! I can remember my Dad stopping a young man in the exchange because he wasn't dressed appropriately-this was back when they had to wear a decent shirt and belt even in civilian clothes. So much strife over a new uniform-maybe it will get better because the blouse doesn't have to be tucked in and it's long enough to cover their butt if they want to wear their pants low. Wear it proudly!

A photo of the uniform

A photo of the uniform (perhaps like the one on the front page) with the article would be useful. Instead, the page displays an advertisement from "Chesapeake Homes" for houses $35K off for "government and military people." Generally, when there is a specific discount for Gov't and Military, one can assume the business establishment is somehow taking advantage of people.

Photos available

Ethan,

If you look at the upper left hand corner of this article there is a link to an interactive about the different uniforms the Navy has. It includes photos of the uniform that is the topic of this article. Enjoy.

Olivia Hubert-Allen, Online Producer

Navy Uniforms out in town ???

Navy Uniforms NOW out in town? OMG! Is the world FINALLY coming to an end with this nonsense? USMC/USAF/USCG/USArmy was allowed to wear uniforms out in town...I guess the USN finally decided to join the majority...I have to wonder ... "Did it take an act of Congress" to finally authorize Sailors wear their BDU's out in town?

Another case of Navy-mentality very poor decision making to wait SO long on this.

Great News

As a sailor who wears this uniform on a daily basis, I must admit that this is great news to me. I am very proud to wear this uniform, and felt ashamed that I couldn't even stop at the gas station wearing it. Sure there are many who do not take pride in themselves and their uniforms and shame on them, but for me a great sense of pride comes from the ability to be out and about as a sailor instead of constantly having to change clothes to do simple errands. It definitely makes life a little bit easier regardless of whether we like the uniforms or not. I just hope that this priviledge is not abused.

aw c'mon

The sailors seem to like these new cammies, they love not having to change into & out of dress uniforms or civvies to be "legal" out in the community though their counterparts in the other services have been allowed that freedom for years now, and having their own service identity via cool looking uniforms (not talking about the brown shirt/black trouser undress uniform - that sounds kinda goofy for sailors) contributes to their esprit de corps.
Given the constant deployment of so many of these fine people & the many sacrifices they make both while deployed and at home, I say most anything we can do for them to make their lives easier or more pleasant is worth it.

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