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N.C. Republicans endorse bill to lift ORV limits

Posted to: News North Carolina

By Connie Sage

The executive committee of the North Carolina Republican Party on Sunday unanimously endorsed a resolution supporting legislation that would restore public access to Cape Hatteras beaches under the Interim Management Plan.

The resolution backs legislation introduced by Rep. Walter B. Jones, R-N.C., in January that would reinstate the Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreation Area plan "until the National Park Service establishes a long-term management plan."

"It's good news for the people here," said Peregrine "Perry" White, vice chair of the Dare County GOP.

Republican leaders statewide pledged to support the bill.

Some 1,700 people attended the state GOP convention over the weekend in Raleigh, where they elected former Raleigh Mayor Tom Fetzer chairman. More than 250 members of the group's executive committee met Sunday.

The so-called off-road vehicle, or ORV, issue prohibits access to areas of beaches on Hatteras and Ocracoke islands to protect turtle and shorebird nesting and pre-nesting areas.

It has pitted environmentalists against local residents and businesses that say they are being hurt economically by the closures.

In July 2007, the National Park Service adopted an interim plan to protect national resources while providing public access to the beaches

After environmental groups filed suit in U.S. District Court, in April 2008 the interim plan was modified, resulting in the closures.

According to the Park Service, the temporary closures are necessary to protect threatened and endangered species, including piping plovers, American oystercatchers, colonial water birds and sea turtles. Posted areas are closed to vehicles, pedestrians and pets.

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Impressive

Obviously the Federal Court (the ones that decide what is the law)disagree with you Wheat! I am sure that wall to wall trucks is just fine and a little bit of garbage never did any harm.

Lawrence

there's a big difference between a judge signing off on an out of court settlement and the judge actually ruling on a case. Boyle did the former, not the latter. And one day Boyle will answer in court to his decision to give the plaintiffs standing because NPS never violated the law and the claim of the interim strategy not going far enough to protect wildlife was pure conjecture and not based on "injury in fact" ; something the Supreme Court requires. Check Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, 504 U.S. 555 (1992)There's not much point in going through the details as you obviously wont be bothered to check the facts. By the way, it's the job of a federal judge to interpret the law, not write it. There's this thing called the Constitution that prevents that. You may have heard of it. As to your assertions regarding trash and "wall to wall" trucks, you must be thinking of somewhere else as that is not the case here. I have at my disposal thousands of photos that will assert my authority on this issue.

I checked my facts Wheat

Your ranting is at best self serving. Obviously even Congress doesn't agree with you nor do the Federal Courts. Check the current NPS directory, it is easy to find and it doesn't include the word recreation in the areas title. the word appears only in the allowed activities part. I used to go to Hatteras Island quite often however it has become wall to wall vehicles with big tires and loud exhausts. The litter is disgusting. If you think this is good for such a pristine environment you are kidding yourself. This issue has been left unaddressed for a long time and now it is time to pay up. Sort of like the waterman in the Chesapeake Bay that can no longer crab.

sorry lawrence

But at a REG-NEG meeting the Seashore Supt along with the DOI lawyer told us that the legal name actually included Recreational Area (RA)and that they had to use the full name in any legal documents and dealings. They further indicated that RA was dropped in informal non-legal reference to the Seashore as an admin expediancy so all Seashores were referred to the same. Cape Hatteras is the only Seashore with RA in its name.

Hopefully you have looked further down to some other info I have provided for your reading pleasure attached to another of your posts.

You are dead wrong on the RA issue.

C'mon Lawrence, I'm not ranting.

I'm just telling you the truth! 16USC459 was passed by congress and signed into law by the president. The NPS directory is moot. You need to look into the law that created and named the seashore to include the NPS codified federal regulations. Once you've done that you'll understand what congress meant when they said "The authorization of activities shall be conducted in the light of the high public value and integrity of the National Park System and shall not be exercised in derogation of the values and purposes for which these various areas have been established, except as may have been or shall be directly and specifically provided by Congress." What this means is that NPS cannot legally derogate from the recreational mission of the seashore without direct and specific authorization from congress...which they do not have.
So no, you haven't checked either the facts or the law relevant to the seashore and the issues at hand. Fair warning: I do know the issues and the law..want to play again?

Please gentlemen, resorting

Please gentlemen, resorting to name-calling only invalidates every issue you express. I realize it's difficult to debate the concerns that one holds so passionatly, only to feel insulted when those same concerns are trivialized. The residents of Hatteras Island are not only fighting for their beaches, they are fighting for their lives. Their business' are failing, families are being torn apart as loved ones must leave to find work elsewhere, and many are working 2-3 jobs just to feed their families. They sacrifice day and night, because family, community, and the heritage they cherish do dearly, are the things they hold closest in their hearts. I realize it's a difficult concept to grasp for outsiders, but perhaps it's these strong ties that makes Hattreras, truly Hatteras. We remind you of a time when you DID know your nextdoor neighbor's name, your school teacher sat in the same church as you, and proof of ID was never asked for when writing a check. They've been lied to, and no one seems to care. They trusted people, and that trust has been ripped away. A man's word, or handshake, is now as worthless as the paper it's written on. The Beliefs that our Country was built on, m

More incorrect information

The National Park Service directory lists Hatteras as "Cape Hatteras National Seashore". There is no reference to recreation in the name although provisions allow for recreational activities. These activities do not take priority over the natural welfare of the area and are regulated as needed by the NPS.

Lawrence, last time I checked,

Congress writes the law and NPS is obligated to follow it. Title 16 USC 459 states " said area shall be, and is, established, dedicated, and set apart as a national seashore recreational area for the benefit and enjoyment of the people and shall be known as the Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area..” In fact, as late as 1972 the NPS brochure about the area included the full and legal name of the seashore. In fact, recreation was determined to be the dominant activity at the seashore which is born out by a host of documents relevant to the establishment of this area, congressional intent and the understanding of same by NPS which for decades directed their activities and created the seashore we fight to regain. Bottom line is that the seashore was acquired and developed for primarily recreational purpose, not for wildlife. The consent decree and current NPS management practice are illegal because they blatantly violate a host of federal laws. NEPA, FAPA and the Organic Act to name a few, but not all.

and lawrence

Go here and read the very first para. It might open your blinder limited eyes and your hearsay limited ears. Note it's from an NPS site.

http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/unrau-williss/adhi4l.htm

also lawrence

Here for your further homework assignment is a link to the early history of the Seashore, again produced by NPS.

Don't fall asleep over it

http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/caha/caha_ah.pdf

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