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Norfolk assessors may look, but not knock - or ask

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Employees of Norfolk's Real Estate Assessor's Office will no longer knock on residents' doors to ask about improvements to their homes.

The City Council directed Real Estate Assessor Deborah Bunn to tell her assessors to view property only from the sidewalks or streets.

Earlier this spring, assessors began fanning out into the city's neighborhoods to better determine home values. If invited inside, they would inspect the interior of homes. If nobody was home and the gate to the backyard was not locked, they would venture onto the property to inspect the home's exterior.

The practice became controversial after media coverage sparked homeowner reaction. Some saw it as a violation of their privacy rights.

A majority of the council, including Mayor Paul Fraim, initially favored continuing the inspections.

However, Fraim announced on Tuesday that he had changed his mind, and most council members agreed.

Fraim said he was convinced by discussions with homeowners in recent weeks.

"People see it as a way for the city to push assessments up, as a way to squeeze every last dollar," he said.

"We haven't done this in a long time, and people say we're doing it in a market that's depressed. That's something that hadn't occurred to me."

Fraim suggested that the council revisit the issue in a couple of years.

Councilman Barclay C. Winn agreed with Fraim but said he did so reluctantly.

"I'd hate it if we get to the point that a city employee can't knock on a door and ask to see improvements," he said.

Countered Councilman W. Randy Wright: "There's nothing in the state code and city code that says we need to go out in this manner. People think we're trying to get an extra pint of blood out of the turnip."

Bunn told the council that Chesapeake and Suffolk assessors do the same kind of inspections yearly. She acknowledged that Norfolk hadn't in decades. "It's the newness factor and the fact that we announced it to the public," she said.

"Other cities do it without making the public announcement we did. No good deed goes unpunished."

Bunn said the door-to-door inspections helped her office to provide more accurate assessments. She said people sometimes make improvements to their homes, especially to the interiors, without getting building permits.

Viewing houses from the streets or sidewalks won't be as informative, but could be beneficial, she said.

"We can get familiar with the dynamics of the neighborhood," she said. If an assessor sees an addition to a house, he or she can take a photo of the property.

The council also instructed Bunn to begin using more timely assessment data beginning next year. Norfolk uses sales data that can be six months older than data used by neighboring cities to establish assessment values for real estate taxes.

Council members said that, in the midst of a slump in housing prices, using older data was forcing some homeowners to pay real estate taxes based on inflated values.

Bunn will meet with the council again June 30 to work out details of the transition to using newer data.

Harry Minium, (757) 446-2371, harry.minium@pilotonline.com

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Illegal Search

If anyone asks to enter my house, for any reason, I want to see their warrant. We have to protect our civil rights!

You may all be missing the fact that

anyone can go on the internet and via satellite look at anyone's home, including the backyard, at any time. I don't like paying inflated taxes any more than the rest of you but I do prefer they have an accurate assessment of my home's value. If they don't get to look and you remove a deck or shed from your back yard, how will they know if they do not look. If there is no fence or sign that states keep out, it is not technically trespassing. If it is someone better turn off the satellites!

Actually, Norfolk's online

Actually, Norfolk's online real estate property assessment database (http://www.norfolk.gov/RealEstate/) does list the year built and property class (like single family, multi-family, etc.). Square footage would be a great addition.

ONLINE ASSESSMENTS- Lawsuit?

You're right, Year Built is listed on Norfolk's site. Also, I can see how a building diagram and/or photos might be used as a tool for theives- that's a very valid point (which Hampton residents may want to investigate because Hampton's site has a photo of their house). That aside, we should still have detailed access to Norfolk's residential property assessment calculations. Their current setup is despicable, and warrants a class-action lawsuit against the city of Norfolk, if you ask me. Think I'm overreacting? I discovered I had been paying over $400 in unjustified taxes because they had a comipletely inflated square footage in their calculation (3000>2650). I actually had to go to the municipal office to request this data, received no apology when I brought it to their attention, and it took them almost a full year to correct their records! In addition, there was no way of finding out how long this had been going on... Ridiculous!

One more thing...

You said you can't find out how long "this had been going on"... You can send a FOIA request for that information as well.

Yes, you're overreacting.

You didn't have to go to any office. If they refused the information over the phone, you should have sent a FOIA(Freedom of Information Act) request via mail or email. There is no reason for a class-action suit. If you think the information should be on the web, and it isn't, just send a FOIA request. They can not ignore it. Hell, send a FOIA request for information on every house in the city and post it on the web yourself. There's nothing stopping you from doing that.

Submitted by bmccormick on

Submitted by bmccormick on Wed, 06/17/2009 at 9:02 am.

I don't understand why Norfolk, one of Virginia's largest cities, cannot update their online assessment database so people can verify the accuracy themselves. The only information you can find on Norfolk's website is the Year Built, Prior Sales Information, and Property Assessment Values. What about the General Assessment Data (yr. built, square footage, type of construction, building diagram, photos, etc)?
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I would agree that year built, square footage and type of construction would be helpful, but I think building diagrams and photos would be a very useful tool for thieves to case the place for a burglary.

thats funny......

that means VB, Hampton, Chesapeake are all sitting ducks! almost ALL info on a home is on their respective city's websites. Some even have the property owner's names.

is it possible....

that this change in date parameters skips right over the bottom of the market and starts capturing price increasess now that the market may have bottomed out? Nah...they ain't that smart.

Norfolk Assessors

The Norfolk Mayor misses the mark when he says people see the home assessor's behavior as a way to "squeeze out every last dollar". We see it as an unlawful violation of the fourth amendment of the the U.S. Constitution which states: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated......"

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