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Where U.S. Rep. Glenn Nye eats breakfast Saturday has become a political hot potato.
Virginia Beach Democrats announced this week they pulled back their 2-month-old invitation to Nye to speak at their Saturday morning meeting because of concerns about overflow crowds seeking to grill him about health care.
People not affiliated with the party have spread false information that it was going to be a town hall meeting on health care, Ollie Bates, Virginia Beach Democratic Committee chairman, said in a written statement. The gathering at Mom's Kitchen "was never intended to be such."
At several town hall meetings around the nation, members of Congress have been subject to angry demonstrations related to the health care debate.
"I think they were concerned that the event would turn into something disruptive and not productive," Nye said Wednesday.
When Beach Republicans - frequent critics of Nye - heard about the invitation revocation, they quickly offered the Norfolk Democrat a chance to speak at their breakfast on Saturday.
"We're not in the habit of giving a platform for Democrats at our weekly breakfast," said GOP city chairman Ken Golden, adding that he was offering Nye "as much speaking time as he would like."
Nye declined the Republican offer, said his spokesman, Clark Pettig, but "he appreciates the invitation, and we're looking forward to a time when he can visit with them."
Nye said he doesn't have any open town-hall-style meetings scheduled during Congress' August recess but is meeting regularly with business, community and advocacy organizations. Those sessions either are not open to the public or are not publicized in advance.
In several forums, Nye has been questioned about the health care debate and his views. He shared one Norfolk forum, held by a health insurance underwriters' group Wednesday, with U.S. Rep. Rob Witt-man, a Republican whose district covers much of the Peninsula.
So far, however, no Hampton Roads representative has scheduled a town hall meeting on the issue.
Nye acknowledged that an open meeting has the potential to become disorderly.
"I don't think - to be honest with you - there's a whole lot of value to having a forum where people are just going to shout each other down," he said.
Pettig said Nye instead will spend Saturday morning meeting one-on-one with constituents to talk about health care.
Bill Bartel, (757) 446-2398, bill.bartel@pilotonline.com
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Democrats Afraid to Face Citizens Who Elected Them
No wonder Nye, Webb and Warner are doing their best to duck their constituents. Especially Webb and Warner. They want no public forum in which the angry voters have an opportunity to express themselves with the cameras rolling. Better to hide behind conference calls, emails, sequestered letters and “private meetings”
Listen! Senators Webb and Warner (and Congressman Nye), your fellow citizens are mad as hell about the Democrats’ Pay to Play Fraud. Specifically: health care scam, bailout scam, stimulus package scam, Cap and Trade, take over of GM and Chrysler, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the trashing of the peoples retirement funds, the devastating losses in our colleges and universities endowment funds, the Bush-Clinton-Mena narcotics cabal, the Diebold electronic vote machine fraudulent elections, the phony war on drugs, the phony wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, shipment of entire US manufacturing plants to China, (see what economist Robert Higgs and Ron Paul, MD have to say about these outrageous Chicago/Little Rock/Crawford Pay to Play scams).
No wonder you don’t want open town hall meetings!
Let's parse your issues
....because you are blaming the wrong person, the wrong administration and the wrong party for many of the things you are complaining about. The economic meltdown occurred during the Bush, Jr. administration with a Republican controlled congress. The decision to bail out the financial institutions were made by Paulson and Bernanke, both Bush, Jr. appointees. The housing market debacle which exploded Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae also happened during that period. A lot of money had already been released by the time Obama became President. He couldn't just let that go to waste by halting the Paulson-Bernanke bailout strategy.
I'm not an Obama fan either. I supported Kucinich in the primaries and later, Hillary. I don't trust most Chicago politicians and I can see that Obama seems to be talking from both sides of his mouth a lot of times. I have yet to see him speak with righteous indignation and passion at the disinformation the Republicans are peddling about health care reform. But to be fair to him, it could be that he is simply afraid and rightly so because there are still people out there who simply cannot accept a black President and they are showing up in protests at pre
uhmmm
Now there is an endorsement that anyone with any credibility aught to run from as fast as they can.
A person charged with over-site of a failed enterprise that is totally dependent on taxpayer funds to keep bailing it out from erroneous financial decisions, great endorsement. A person who believes that requiring citizens to fund his development schemes (out of taxpayers' pockets) is his just entitlement because he knows best for everyone. He knows one more cookie cutter wall of concrete, with low paying maid service, retail, and tip based income, is what the oceanfront needs. A person, who fundamentally believes that increased taxes are the answer for everything, even for road projects that wont benefit citizens trying to simply go to work each day, is in your corner....that more than anything else, tells me everything I need to know.
Glenn Nye, if these are the types of people who comprise your constituent base, then I will take great pride in voting for anyone who runs against you in the next election.
Trust Government?
That is an interesting concept as most democrats have had trouble trusting government for the last eight years as the first election was stolen, our nation was attacked, we were hoodwinked into an unnecessary war, a major city drowned and no one in the federal government cared, our candidate the next time was swift boated with hateful and untruthful lies, and a cloud of deceit and divisiveness permeated continued to permeate the administration. So yes, now we are beginning to trust government again. I met with Nye to express my concern about the status quo in health care, and to say that reform is absolutely necessary or small businesses will simply not be able to provide health care to employees in the near future. Nye shares those concerns, and within the context of cost control, protection of MediCare, TriCare, and veterans health care, he expressed a willingness to support reform to the degree that it is paid for and does not increase the deficit. I believe him.
WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
Would you like some whine with your cheese Mike?
Can we trust the government?
"You want us to trust the government?" - Newt Gingrich. Yes, to an extent, while exercising our freedom of information rights and using democratic checks and balances, that is what we usually do and should do. Thomas Paine had the same view because, after all, it is our government. Many Republicans, it seems trust the government only when they are in control of it. They trusted Nixon when he and his HMO pioneer friends like Kaiser thrust us into this patently unfair health care system where insurance companies work hand in glove with hospitals to overcharge patients. I am sure Gingrich and others like him trusted the government of Bush, Jr. when he led us pell-mell into war in Iraq.
Can we trust the government?
"You want us to trust the government?" - Newt Gingrich. Yes, to an extent, while exercising our freedom of information rights and using democratic checks and balances, that is what we usually do and should do. Thomas Paine had the same view because, after all, it is our government. Many Republicans, it seems trust the government only when they are in control of it. They trusted Nixon when he and his HMO pioneer friends like Kaiser thrust us into this patently unfair health care system where insurance companies work hand in glove with hospitals to overcharge patients. Did you know that a simple vitamin injection is considered a surgical procedure and charged as such? When an LPN removes stitches from your wound, that is also charged as "surgery." I am sure Gingrich and others like him trusted the government of Bush, Jr. when he led us pell-mell into war in Iraq which,now as it turns out, without just cause. Or when that administration invaded our communications privacy, made us an international pariah when comes to human rights when it allowed torture and the "rendition" of suspects to countries that allowed torture. When the Bush, Jr. administration initiated the bailout of fail
Has anybody noticed?
......that while fiscal conservatives bash universal health care, the public option and even Medicare and Medicaid, nobody mentions that the private insurance companies are the ones servicing the beneficiaries of Medicaid while the pharmaceutical firms are making a killing out of Medicare prescriptions. Here in Virginia, for example, Optima and Anthem share in servicing Medicaid beneficiaries and they compete actively for them.
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