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Gays in military subject to contradiction

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Debates over allowing gay men and women to serve in the military quickly get complicated.

That's because there are two seemingly contradictory regulations governing gay military service: the policy known as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and the federal law declaring homosexuality incompatible with military service.

Both date to 1993, when President Bill Clinton attempted to end a longtime ban on openly gay members serving in the military.

Clinton's policy prohibits individuals from talking about, and commanders from asking about, sexual orientation. One concrete result: That eliminated a standard question on enlistment forms about a recruit's sexual orientation.

The presidential action galvanized opponents of the change. In late 1993, Congress passed a law requiring the military to discharge any personnel who identify themselves as gay or have engaged in "homosexual acts."

The bill - now Title 10, Section 654 of the U.S. Code - stated that military service is "unique" in its circumstances. It is characterized by its own laws, customs and "restrictions on personal behavior that would not be accepted in civilian society." As such, it must exclude people whose presence threatens morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion.

Making the long standing ban into law raised the stakes. President Barack Obama no longer has Clinton's option of trying to craft a new policy. It will take an act of Congress to overturn the law.

Obama has said he would gladly sign a bill giving gays the right to serve - but it's up to legislators to get it to his desk.

There's movement to do that in the House. U.S. Rep. Ellen Tauscher, a California Democrat, has introduced a bill to repeal the current statute and require the military not to discriminate against homosexuals. Now in subcommittee, the bill has 175 co-sponsors, including U.S. Rep. Bobby Scott, the only legislator from Hampton Roads who lent a name to the effort.

The Senate will likely be a much harder battle. No bills comparable to Tauscher's have been introduced.

Both supporters and opponents of repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" are trying to get their message out.

Last summer, Sgt. Maj. Brian Jones, a retired Army Ranger, testified against the change at a House Armed Services Committee hearing. Jones told legislators that having gay members on a special operations team wouldn't work. Tight-knit, all-male units, which typically work in severe conditions, can't tolerate gay soldiers, he said, recalling times in his own career when he trained in extreme conditions.

"The only way to keep from freezing at night was to get as close as possible for body heat, which means skin to skin. On several occasions, in the close quarters that a team lives, any attraction to same-sex teammates, real or perceived, would be known and would be a problem," Jones told lawmakers. "The presence of openly gay men in these situations would elevate tensions and disrupt unit cohesion and morale."

The 1993 law notes the potential for combat, forcing troops to live and work in primitive conditions, with forced intimacy and little or no privacy - a circumstance that has certainly been borne out during seven years of sustained combat in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Some of the thousands of service members injured in combat are gay, including Marine Staff Sgt. Eric Alva, the first U.S. service member wounded in the invasion of Iraq.

Three years after losing his leg to a land mine - and having President George W. Bush present him with the Purple Heart - Alva publicly acknowledged being gay. He testified at the same hearing Jones did, in support of Tauscher's bill.

Alva's case leads some to say that fears about gay members destroying unit cohesion are overblown.

Others argue that until the law is repealed, the military can't truly crack down on those who abuse colleagues perceived as being gay - and they say that kind of harassment can also threaten a unit's cohesion and morale.

A case in point is the unfolding story about abuse of sailors in a Navy dog-handling unit in Bahrain in 2005 and 2006. The chief of naval operations, Adm. Gary Roughead, has asked for a review of the investigation into an abusive chief petty officer who allegedly terrorized junior sailors assigned to the kennel.

One of the targets of the abuse, Petty Officer 3rd Class Joseph Rocha, said the abuse started when he refused to have sex with a prostitute, spurring some sailors to question his sexuality. Later, after battling post-traumatic stress disorder, Rocha told a superior that he was gay, a statement he knew would cost him his Navy career and appointment to the Naval Academy.

Aaron Belkin, director of The Palm Center, a University of California at Santa Barbara think tank, and a supporter of lifting the ban, said the Bahrain case shows that telling sailors not to harass people they think might be gay or lesbian isn't enough.

"Our research shows you can't get rid of anti-gay abuse as long as the military's official policy is discrimination," Belkin said Friday, shortly after finishing a lecture about gays in the military at the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Pa.

Some legal experts insist that changing the policy doesn't need congressional action.

A policy paper the Palm Center published in July, by University of Florida law Professor Diane H. Mazur, contends that the secretary of defense could cite national security interests to keep on duty gay service members facing discharge.

He could also raise the bar on what it takes to investigate a soldier's or sailor's sexuality. Currently, regulations prohibit looking into the matter unless "credible information from reliable sources" exists.

The defense secretary could also require that no investigations of potentially gay service members occur without his specific approval.

That move would address one of the biggest criticisms of the law - that it is applied arbitrarily and sometimes vindictively, endangering some gays and lesbians while allowing others to serve.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates may be thinking along the same lines. He has said he is disturbed by the prospect of gay service members being blackmailed or outed as revenge.

Kate Wiltrout, (757) 446-2629, kate.wiltrout@pilotonline.com



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Whats the big deal

I was in the Navy 8 years, I am married and straight. I knew gays, they are like everyone else. Gays have always been around, like water and trees. If some dude was checking me out in the shower, it never really botehred me as my mind was on what to do next instead of something so petty. I think we need to worry about winning the wars we're in instead of what people do in their private lives. BTW, Alexander the Great was gay, J Edgar Hoover was a cross dresser. Being gay and miliary function is about as relevant as hair color is to being a good solider/sailor. Lets move on to winning.

can gays be ok for the military?

Ask Ed Schrock.

Gays in military

I see no reason for keeping that misbegotten rule. If a gay person cannot do the job for which he/she is qualified, that should be the only reason for a discharge. I have read many articles of the military raping or mistreating another member, but I do not ever recall a homosexual or lesbian involved. Sexual preference is a very personal matter and is no one's affair. By the way, that sexual preference is generally NOT a way of living by choice, but a matter that one is born that way. Lighten up and let the men and women in the services do their job and keep out of their bedrooms.

Our pride and joy, Israel,

Our pride and joy, Israel, allows gays to serve in the military. If Israel's military is still functioning, then I don't understand the threat of homosexuals infiltrating our military.

Don't ask what smells.

Why do all these guys believe that being gay means you are attractive to them? Living in close quarters, I learned what smelly, unsanitary and egotistical boobs many of you are. I was too tired and disinterested to want any of you. When you staggered back to the ship, drunk and destined for "sick call", after fornicating with prostitutes, who'd crave your diseased flesh? Grow up or join the Taliban.

In my 22 years, i came across a couple gays serving

in the Navy in my division. Both kept it to themselves. Both realized their orientation would not be tolerated or accepted if they openly tried to practice their orientation, especially on other Sailors.
Just like some young wife's hated having young female Sailors being introduced to ships for fear of what might happen, the ships figured it out and moved on. Women and ships DO mix. Until a gay actively pursues a fellow Sailor, I had no problems with them. A suspect gay was one of my best technicians. Really, the policies work. If a "straight" guy goes to far after a gal, there are rules against that, to include discharge. Nothing different with gays practicing their orientation. What does creep into the equation is on ships, when the gay crosses over to far in their openness, then the problems of unit cohesion kick in. The guy I was certain was gay, never openly practiced on the ship and the guys did not feel uncomfortable by having him around. Under Clinton's policies, he stayed in, was highly productive, I had a technician I could rely on, and we had a strong unit. I had options. Keep those options in place.

Military Discrimination

The military discriminates based on weight, height, shape, size, gender, age and IQ. There absolutely nothing wrong with it and it has worked for years. I was on the weight control program for two years because I was within five pounds of my maximum weight. I never went over my max, but endured two years of monthly harassment. I have several friends forced out because of weight. Let the show begin or the circus. Change the way the military does things, it will no longer be all it can be, but a country club for people trying to make their own point and do their own thing.

So you're stating that the

So you're stating that the military should be allowed to discriminate against gays based on the factors you have listed? Let's extrapolate and why not use your argument to argue for the military to discriminate against a person's natural origins, race and/or religion. [sarcasm]We can't trust those who believe in Allah![/sarcasm]

Once any activity goes against good order and dicipline

then yes, disciplinary actions may be warranted. Disciplinary actions range from a simple chat, off the record, to Courts Martial. While to you it might be cute to twist what I say with your question, I do not advocate discrimination against gays, nor does the Navy. What you consider as discriminatory, I consider as impacting unit cohesion. Our opinions no longer mean anything. It is law. If you wish that gays be allow the freedom to openly claim their sexual orientation then convince the Congress to send the bill to the President. Apparently, Clinton's presidential order is not against the law, so it stands. With that law, the standards of conduct is set. All are explained this law, and all may chose to follow it as they see fit. This is a lawful order by the Commander in Chief, as such, I followed it. It empowered me as a supervisor to make decisions based on unit cohesion, vice a draconian edict from years ago. One nice thing, I was able to practice this law, and allowed two guys who I suspected as being gay to continue to work side by side with me. Is that practicing discrimination? Do you get it?

re: gay in the military.

Gay in the military just don't work. I know it is a bit much for them to think about this but common sense should tell them coed is a bad thing in the military. The job and its very nature do not allow it.

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