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Chesapeake school's expansion imperiled

Posted to: Chesapeake Education News

CHESAPEAKE

Last week, the School Board was tossing around some thoughts about the best way to expand Indian River High School. How big to build it? Should it accommodate 1,750 students, which might create a better learning environment? Or should the school be bigger - 2,100 students, which could save money down the line?

Meanwhile, the discussions taking place just down the road at City Hall could mean those questions have just one answer: No.

City administrators said this week they don't want City Council to approve any extra construction money for schools.

If the council goes along, the whole Indian River project - along with many of the school division 's other major building priorities - could be put on hold.

"We would not be recommending to the council that we provide additional money for construction... and we would expect the schools would plan accordingly," said Deputy City Manager Betty Jean Meyer.

Still, at last week's board meeting, the School Board talked about the pros and cons of both Indian River High plans.

Superintendent W. Randolph Nichols said he'd prefer the smaller of the two expansions - the ideal high school size is around 1,600 students, he said, but external pressures caused school divisions to build bigger. Grassfield High School, for example, holds about 2,400, he said, because council members pushed for a bigger school.

Some, said Board Member Thomas Mercer Sr., "would want us to build (Indian River) bigger because it would maybe put off the radar for some time the other high school" - an eighth public high school in the Elbow Road and Centerville Turnpike area.

And City Manager William Harrell did say he thought a bigger school "makes perfect sense, to take some of the pressure off the eighth high school."

But without the extra funding, the question about size might be little more than a topic of conversation.

In Chesapeake, the City Council has the final say on funding for school division construction plans. But this year, it's being asked to go a step further.

The money that's been set aside to pay for school construction is running low, and earlier this month, Nichols urged board members to go to the council to ask for more.

Otherwise, he said, "all capital projects in the school division will come to a halt."

The school administration has its eye on fiscal year 2014-15, the year the city pays off a major school construction debt. At that point, the city could start directing the $16.5 million it was using to make debt payments toward more new school construction, if council members agreed to it.

But that, city administrators say, would not be a good idea. The city recently laid off 23 employees to save $400,000.

"The economy is still really very challenging, and we are looking at probably additional revenue reductions," Meyer said. "We're not going to make a commitment about that debt until we see what the revenue looks like."

Without that money, the school division could still pay for the smaller Indian River High School expansion, said Assistant Superintendent for Budget and Finance Vicki Lucente. But it would leave them with very little money for anything else, including regular maintenance work such as roof replacements and heating and air conditioning repairs. The technology upgrades the administration hopes to do at four of the city's high schools could also be on the rocks.

School and city officials plan to meet to discuss financing before their final vote on the capital improvement plan, scheduled for Nov. 30.

Alicia Wittmeyer, (757) 222-5216, alicia.wittmeyer@pilotonline.com

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Schools

I too moved to the Greenbrier section of Cheseapeake from Boston. I could have lived anywhere because my husband's job, which was the reason for the relocation, was in Norfolk.

I was advised by both a realtor recommended from a colleague of my husband's and the colleague to search for a home in either Greenbrier or the Kempsville section of VB.

We looked and when we happened on a house that we liked in Greenbrier, the realtor said that the school system was excellent until high school, but don't worry because there will be a new one built by the time our daughter would be that age (she was entering kindergarten).

Well, the realtor has been on the mark. We have had wonderful experiences at both GRP and GRI (even though I don't understand what happened to the GATE program this year; they dismantled the GATE lab and the GATE students are not having the enrichment part of the program as they did last year).

Now this year we find out that there's no way we'll have an 8th HS anywhere in CP and that our district is IRH.......well, after taking a tour at the end of the last school year, I was disgusted by the condition. I could not believe that students could learn anythin

I attended from 1996-2000,

I attended from 1996-2000, and the school was in pretty bad shape then as well. They've since renovated in the last year or two, but I can understand your issues with the school. The building is nearly 40 years old, so there's only so many more cans of point you can slap on it to keep it "modern". They added a new wing right before I attended, but I wonder where else they can expand, unless they add on to the front of the school the way Western Branch did (the two share the same original floor plan, but expanded in different ways).

Numbers in a class

I'm an old guy! We had thirty some students in most of our classes and we did quite well. We a numeric grade we had to compete for and we did alright.
So don't tell me more schools and better paid teahers are the answer.
What was wrong with two or three stories in a buliding to house a learning facility.
OOPS!! I see the error of my way. We are building schools and not learning facilities

Getting it Straight

Families and new businesses go to Chesapeake for 1 reason: SCHOOLS. The quality of education at Chesapeake's Schools is 2nd to none. However, the physical structures of the high schools, except Grassfield and Smith, are a joke! I have spent the last 10 years as both a teacher/parent in Chesapeake. We just moved to San Antonio this year. The school buildings in SA make Grassfied look average. The high school campuses here are jaw dropping! The football stadiums look like college stadiums and have artificial turf. The drawback in San Antonio: the quality of education does not compare to Chesapeake. The general ed curricula in Chesapeake is as rigorous as the "pre-AP" (honors) courses in SA. Once again, the quality of education in Chesapeake is 2nd to none, but the 1st impression newcomers get when observing the school structures is not positive. No growth = no new revenue. No school investment = no growth. Do the math!

IRHS

Got2win1 is right about impressions and growth/loss of revenue. IRHS is "assumed" to be one of the worst schools in Chesapeake, but the education kids get there will stand up to anyone, anywhere. Our two oldest graduated from IR, but we got tired of waiting for a better, more modern school for our youngest. We started looking around in our own backyard and discovered Va. Beach. It's a great place to live. The education is just as outstanding, the facilities are excellent, and our commute is the same. The sad thing for Chesapeake is that when we moved, our wallet came with us. Chesapeake has to get serious about getting their school buildings straight.

taxes and salaries

Tell them like it is. Higher taxes and higher teachers wages that will fix it, right.
Another tax the rich until theren't anymore' or are you one of those "Can't we all get all get along" as long as we agree with you liberals.

IRHS Expansion

Official word is a 2,100 seat expansion ='s redistricting Oscar Smith AND Grt Brdg..Hickory?. Problem: research proves big schools not good for education or low-income kids. Problem: Extra classrooms doesn't mean more gym, cafeteria, library,...it means more stress. Can't grow hallways made for 1,500..where's the other 600 kids goin when the bell rings? Stampede anyone? How 'bout parking? Sports opportunity? People need to look at the facts (if they can get them out of the city). A big school is bad for IR. Poor conditions over years led to student loss. The city's gotta get this school right or lose more families AND ruin an area that's already sliding.

Population Reduction

Since 2005, Indian River High School has lost nearly 200 students. I urge Council and the School Board to keep this in mind as they plan for the future. Unless there is an attendance boundary change, there is definitely no need for the large expansion.

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