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Kyle Tucker

Need a daily Hokie football fix? Virginian-Pilot writer Kyle Tucker, in his sixth season on the Virginia Tech beat, is your man in Blacksburg. Read stories from Kyle on the college football channel.

ECU Week, Volume 2 (Pointy Fingers edition) ...

Ah, vitriol! And here I thought the Hokies were going to get through an entire season without someone needing to be fired or have their scholarship pulled or just their general dignity stripped of them to appease the angry mob.

Just ... wow. I knew my take on offensive coordinator Bryan Stinespring last night would stir the pot a bit but, boy, some of you folks REALLY don’t like the guy. And as it turns out, now some of you really don’t like me much, either.

On both counts I say only: Fair enough. Hate who you will. Don’t, however, question my journalistic integrity. Don’t tell me I’m on the VT payroll. Don’t speculate that I fear for my job or my access to the team if I don’t act like a Frank Beamer puppet.

Don’t. Not because it hurts my feelings. It doesn’t. I sleep great even with an in-box full of hate mail. But don’t say such silly things because they just aren’t true.

I’m not afraid of backlash from Beamer if I’m critical of his team. I’ve been critical many times in the past and he hasn’t clubbed me with a crow bar or barred me from interviewing anyone. He and a few of his assistant coaches have had quite a few choice words with me before. We’ve agreed to disagree on some things. Here’s a little secret: We’ve even screamed at each other.

But at the end of the day, both sides recognize and respect that we’re each just trying to our jobs. And Beamer knows that mine is to tell the truth as best I understand it. Last year, that truth was that the offense was outright impotent for almost the entire first nine games or so. And I wrote that. I went to great lengths to find the stats to confirm for you, the interested and frustrated reader, that no team had won more with less offense over the previous three seasons.

I am nobody’s puppet, folks. Just ask my boss, who would frequently like to bludgeon me for zigging when I should have zagged because I just happen to like zigging better.

So if I tell you that I don’t think this season’s shortcomings should be hung exclusively on offensive coordinator Bryan Stinespring, I’m saying so because I believe it. I think he has called some pretty excellent games this season (along with a fair number of calls that I’m sure he wants to have back). Even the guy who runs the Web site whose sole purpose is to get Stinespring fired wrote multiple posts earlier this season about what a nice job Stiney was doing and that a positive trend was developing.

But now that same guy is publicly insulting me for being some sort of Hokies PR flack. Uh, no. Even the biggest cynic was willing to admit Stinespring stepped up his game this season and the offense was getting better and players were executing better. Great? No. But better. I keep hearing how all this program needs is a top-50 offense and after six games, Tech was climbing toward that. It was a top-25 rushing team and a top-30 scoring offense.

So now, after two tough games, two crushing defeats for the Hokies ... Stiney is back to being an idiot and totally at fault for everything that has ever gone wrong for Virginia Tech in the last eight years? Come on. Step back. Take a breath.

And to those of you who took offense over my comments about defensive coordinator Bud Foster ... relax. I wasn’t saying, ‘Blame Bud.’ Hardly. As so many of you have pointed out, Tech owes a great many (most) of its wins over the past five seasons to Mr. Foster and his perpetually top-10 defense.

So maybe in my haste, I wrote it wrong last night. The point I was trying to illustrate is that no one ever says, ‘Whoa, Bud is slipping. What’s his problem?’ EVERYONE is saying, ‘If his defense is struggling, he must have less talent than in the past. It must be the players’ failure to execute.’ And Foster has essentially said as much. What I don’t get, though, is why that’s a viable excuse for Foster and not for Stinespring?

Maybe it’s just TRUE in both cases. Everyone within the program talked about the horrible strikeouts in offensive line recruiting several years ago, which led to porous units up front the past three seasons. Is it a coincidence, then, that the offense struggled mightily in those years? But it couldn’t be the players, right?. And if Stinespring said so, he’d just be “throwing them under the bus.” But if Foster says so, it’s just true and the players need to step up.

Does nobody see the double standard in that? My point last night is that I think fans are letting the past few years color their perceptions of today. And the fact is, things change. This year is not the same as any of the previous three (or five).

This year, the Hokies have won most of their games as a team. They’ve lost all three of their games as a team. There have been great successes and great failures in all three phases of the game.

So maybe it’s possible that, despite all the hype – admittedly perpetuated in part by people like me – this was always just a team that was going to lose two or three games. No shame in that. No blame in that.

Ah, but we need goats, don’t we? Maybe someone wants to send this guy below some hate mail? No? Well, that’s good to hear. It wouldn’t surprise me. With some of the fire that comes spewing out of folks after a loss, no wonder this kid didn’t want to leave his house ...

RB RYAN WILLIAMS

ON HIS NIGHT AFTER THE FUMBLE AND THE LOSS AGAINST UNC ON THURSDAY: “I didn’t go to sleep until about 8 that (next) morning. I stayed up all night. Couldn’t sleep. I stayed in my room in the dark. That play just ran through my head over and over again. When I say over and over again, I mean over and over again. If I wasn’t tired, I probably still would be up thinking about the play.”

ON WHETHER HE’S OVER IT NOW: “Yeah, I’ve got to be. I’m a guy who doesn’t like dwelling on things about that past. If I keep dwelling on it, my future, the future for this team and me helping this team won’t probably be very good. I can’t have something negative lingering, sitting on my mind.”

ON THE TEAM’S MOOD GOING FORWARD: “The same mood for every game. We’ve got to come in and play our ‘A’ game. Some games, we’re going to play our ‘A’ game. Some games we don’t execute like we want to, and that’s where those losses come from. If we would’ve executed every play the way we needed to and come up with our ‘A’ game, we would be undefeated by now. But things happen. We just need to come out and execute.”

ON WHEN HE WOKE UP FRIDAY IF HE DIDN’T FALL ASLEEP UNTIL 8 A.M.: “Ten thirty. I just woke up. That play, that was the first thing I thought about. It still makes me sick to my stomach. But the difference now is that I’ve come to terms with it. That’s the difference now. Before, I didn’t come to terms with it. Just being able to say, ‘Yeah, I fumbled. I fumbled and that might have cost us the game.’ That’s what I’ve been able to come to terms with. I couldn’t do it before. I hate fumbling. I only fumbled once or twice in high school and I played all four years. I hate fumbling, but things happen and you’ve just got to keep going.”

ON WHAT RB COACH BILLY HITE HAS SAID TO HIM: “He pulled me to the side and he told me he already thinks that I’m a great player and that everyone he’s coached and been considered great here has fumbled. I guess arguably the best running back, Kevin Jones, put the ball on the ground multiple times. I want to be considered one of the great running backs here. Things happen. So (Hite) told me don’t get myself down about it, that I wasn’t the reason that cost the game, even though personally I think so. He said ... there were multiple times we should’ve put points on the board and we didn’t. He just said keep my head up and you’ve got to keep going.”

ON WHETHER HE’LL BE HIGHLY MOTIVATED THE REST OF THE WAY: “I’m just going to be the same old guy. That fumble doesn’t motivate me to run even better or run even harder or do things any differently. I’m going to come out against ECU the same guy I’ve previously been. I’m going to try to make plays.”

ON WHAT HE DID FRIDAY TO FORGET ABOUT IT: “I just chilled. That’s all I do anyway. I just chill in my room and watch TV. It was probably about Saturday, Sunday when I started talking to people. I was really down on myself. I didn’t even go to class Friday. I stayed in my room. I couldn’t stomach looking at people’s face, the same people who look at me every day and tell me how proud they are of me and tell me I’m their favorite player on the team ... that they look up to me. To look in their face and know I may have disappointed them in some way, I just couldn’t do it. I went out Saturday ... and it made me feel a lot better, that a lot of people were still in my corner. They just basically told me that regardless of what happened ... one mistake don’t compare to my whole season. I was still apologizing to people that were coming up to me. They gave me a hug, gave me support. I was apologizing to them because I still feel bad about it. That’s something that probably won’t ever leave my mind, but it’s got to.”

*** And here’s the Big Whistle ...

HEAD COACH FRANK BEAMER

OPENING REMARKS ON EAST CAROLINA: “I’m really impressed with this East Carolina football team. It all starts out with their quarterback, Pinkney. He’s a dynamic player. Their running backs are really coming along, and I think this wide receiver, Harris, is really a special player. ... Defensively, they’ve got eight seniors. They’ve got experience. They’re very strong up front. They’ve got a kicker that kicks it a mile. ... This is a very good football team.”

ON THE TEAM’S MENTALITY AFTER CONSECUTIVE LOSSES, INCLUDING A HEARTBREAKER AT HOME: “We certainly had a tough loss, but I think what we’re playing for is pride in each other, pride in our football team, and just going out and trying to get a win. That’s what we need to think about right now. We’ve got a good group of players here. We’ve got good kids, got good leadership. It was just a tough loss and you’ve got to go on to next week. We’re playing for the pride of each other and all the work that we’ve put into this thing and we just need to work to get a win right now.”

ON HOW HARD RB RYAN WILLIAMS TOOK HIS FUMBLE AT THE END OF THAT GAME: “He knows he’s got everybody’s support. He’s a tough guy and he’ll come through it. In athletics, you’re out there and you’ve just got to realize there’s some bad with some good. And there’s going to be a lot of good from that guy. There already has been in the short time he’s been here, and there’s going to be a lot more good before he leaves here.”

ON HEAVY FAN CRITICISM OF OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR BRYAN STINESPRING AFTER THE LOSS: “Well, I appreciate people’s interest and people’s passion for our program. I don’t think now is the time. Anything along those lines is not helping us beat East Carolina, and that’s all I’m concerned about right now is beating East Carolina. That’s going to take a major, major effort.”

ON HIS MESSAGE TO THE TEAM DURING THEIR MEETING AFTER THE LOSS: “I told them that we were in the exact same position last year as far as record: just lost two conference games. We kept working, stuck together and we ended up the season feeling good about ourselves. That’s what needs to take place now. I talked about some tough losses back in 1998. We lost three games that were just tough, tough losses. That’s life. You get disappointment in life and you’ve got to come back from it. ... We always came back (in ’98). That’s just part of football. You’re going to have disappointment. How you come back from it is what’s important. That’s where we are right now.”

ON WHETHER THIS ONE WAS HARD TO SHAKE OFF FOR HIM PERSONALLY: “Well, you’ve got to move forward. We’ve got such a tough opponent coming up that it doesn’t take you long to figure you better forget about North Carolina and start getting ready for East Carolina. This crowd, they can play. ... This is a football team that beat us last year and we need to play a great football game at their place to have a chance to win it.”

ON LYNDELL GIBSON STARTING TAKING JAKE JOHNSON’S STARTING SPOT AT LINEBACKER: “I think Lyndell’s got some real talent, just a natural nose for the football. He’s very quick, stocky. Jake’s going to continue to play. Both of them are just young. We’re you’re young, sometimes it’s inconsistent. But both of them are going to play and Lyndell, I like his possibilities.”

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The reason we believe Foster

The reason we believe Foster when he says the players should step up is because he has proven time and again that he can produce elite defenses. The guy is hands down one of the best DCs in the country. He is arguably THE best.

On the other hand, Stiney has never put together an offense that performed well for an entire season. The only constant since he's taken over has been him. Why is it that players can never seem to execute under him? Why isn't Bud plagued by this same problem?

TT

althokie, I disagree that Taylor's problem is that he isn't good in the clutch. In fact, this year, he has been great in the clutch. The problem is, he's been underwhelming outside of two minute situations, especially in the first half.

Its hard to tell if the following is accurate given the nature of TV camera coverage of receivers, but it appears we have a weird conundrum with our receivers.

I love our starting receivers because they always catch the ball. On the other hand, they seem to rarely be open during their normal routes, and usually require TT to dance in the backfield for 9 seconds while they play flag football.

Conversely, we have talented receivers behind them that drop the damn ball.

Kyle Tucker, by the numbers

Look, Kylet, you said it yourself..

http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/2008/11/numbers

"* If Tech aspires to win a national title – and I assume it does, what with the empty glass case reserved for the trophy and all – the Hokies will have to improve drastically on offense. While each of the last five national champions had top-10 defense’s like Tech’s … LSU’s 2003 team had the lowest offensive rankings among the champs – at No. 31. The average offensive ranking for the last five national titlists has been 18.2. That’s a long climb from where Tech sits, down at 109th (or 100th last year, or 99th the year before)."

No one has done more with less offense than Virginia Tech.

You have a selective memory, man.

ECU

Can we get some info on ECU instead of this stiney crap... it'll eventually blow over like everything else. We're one day away from playing ECU and yet there has been hardly any info posted about them outside of what Beamer's politically correct assessment of them.

Stiny is doing better but it is still not good enough.

Kyle:

I agree that Stiny's offense is better this year. But think about it...
VT has an experienced five star QB. Superman at running back. An experienced and athletic O Line. Fine receivers. With all the tools and talent at his disposal, Stiny's offense should be DOMINATING. The OL is too good to be missing so many blocks and they still cant pick up a blitz. That is coaching. Something is seriously wrong.

But Kyle, I love your work and will always be a loyal reader even when I disagree with you.

Come on!

You're right.....some years it's due to a lack of talent. But Stiney has been here EIGHT seasons. And he hasn't put together even ONE top 25 offense. He's only finished in the top 50 once.

Virginia Tech consistently finishes in the top 50 in recruiting according to most recruiting services right? So then why is it so hard for our offense to crack the top 50? Was the lack of talent responsible for every single season of sub-par offensive output?

Bud Foster, on a "down year" has us in the top 30 still!

Sheesh!

Sheesh! Anyone who thinks you're in the tank for Stiney hasn't read you for very long. I appreciate your neutral opinion as you provide us with all the interview transcripts. I haven't been happy about our offense over the past several years and I'm happy to see some of the improvements this year. I'm not sure that Stiney is the right guy but I think your analysis is correct. I think this is just a huge knee-jerk reaction by fans who don't know how to deal with the two losses and dropping from national title-contender to bowl contender. It's put me in a pretty crabby mood as well but I try to keep the vitrol to a minimum! Keep up the good work.

Love your BLOG Kyle, but.....

You sound a little like Coach Beamer in this latest edition. Don't get me wrong, I love your journalism and read it every chance I get. I don't think for one second that you're on the VT payroll but the latest edition has you sounding a little on the defensive (much like the Big Whistle has the last 2 years when he's been called out for the lack of offensive production).
There's no doubt that the offense has gotten better this year but it's still way beyond what most programs would consider acceptable. Top 70's is hardly anything to write home about. And if we're honest, Stiney has called 1, maybe 2 decent (not great - decent) games this year. The difference between this year and previous is that the talent on the offensive side of the ball is much better than in years past and talent level has masked the vanilla play calling to a certain extent. Ryan Williams is an exceptional talent and TT was playing out of his mind but he's out of the zone now. Since RW was sick and TT is no longer playing lights out, the offense once again sticks out like a sore thumb.
After 8 years of below mediocre playcalling, it's no wonder that the fans are looking for a scap

Defensive Pass

BTW, Foster gets a pass due to his track record (keeping the team alive) and getting the most out of players such as Grimm. Glad to see him sit J. Johnson for not following the assignments again.

Truth about VT Offense

Currently, VT is ranked 75th in Total Offense. If you were to exclude the BC game, we would probably rank around 85 to 90. This is where we ended up last year, the year before, etc.......
The problem is not Stinespring - a true fan (I go back to M. DeShazio) would recognize we haven't had a good QB since B. Randall - Kyle has detailed Taylor's bad habits. Michael Vick was a anamoly - we'll never get another one like that. (For example - see Marcus Vick, Tyrod Taylor)
The problem is the overall philosophy with "athletic QB's" - they aren't reliable in crunch time. Need a accurate pass - not here. Need a to throw the ball away to avoid sack - not here.
For years, we never had decent WR's or TE's. If we did, we wasted their ability - see Eddie Royal or Greg Boone. Now, we have awesome WR's, but an average QB (at best).
Bottom line, Beamer needs to make a decision about what type of offense he wants to run: Pro, Spread or "Athletic". It affects the entire team.

"Stiney"

Oh, come now, Kyle -- you've always been a shill for the Hokies and for "Stiney." ... It's OK. We're used to it. You're as big a fan as the rest of us here in Hokie Nation. I think these folks are being too hard on your pal, "Stiney." Give the man a break.

But in the end

For those that need a scapegoat, you are right, they will do whatever it takes to get them through the day. I actually don't know if it would be the best idea to fire Stiney. I don't know what good would come from it considering this is the way Beamer wants the offense run and no matter what puppet is there, the offense will look similar. So what good is it to fire a guy who offers continuity? And perhaps you are right, perhaps it is the o-line. But who is responsible for the recruiting misses? And who is responsible for their performance? Ultimately, Stiney. And if he doesn't have the guys he needs, get rid of whoever you need to and get someone who can get the job done.

I don't think three loses is a big deal. Not once every 5 years or whatever. But I do go back to this, who have we beaten recently that is worth holding a cup of water to? No one. That's the biggest problem this team has - they will not win the big one with the coaching mentality currently in Bburg. Period.

You're a good journalist

I don't always agree with you. HOWEVER, those who would say that you are a Beamer hack who is fearful of losing his job - they lack information and perspective. I appreciate your stats and for some reason, you've gone away from those recently (after the GT and UNC losses). Get back to the stats. The point isn't that we need a scapegoat. In fact, most fans willingly oblige you and will admit that this isn't Foster's best efforts and he doesn't have the talent. But, on the other hand - the probmlem is that this IS (statistically) Stiney's best effort and he does in fact have the players. In fact, he has a RIDICULOUSLY talented QB and (probably) the best running back to ever step foot on VT's campus. And yet, this is the best. We've been waiting to see what the offense's ceiling is under Stiney and this is it huh? Well, for me at least, this isn't good enough. But as I said, I know that in the end, this is Beamer's offense so, Stiney would be a scapegoat if he was fired.

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