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HRT’s next stop: a new home in Norfolk

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Posted in partnership with Inside Business, the Hampton Roads Business Journal.
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By Philip Newswanger | Inside Business

Hampton Roads Transit is on the move.

In another two years, the regional transportation authority will have a contemporary complex on 11 acres on 18th Street in Norfolk.

The whole project will cost $69 million, most of it financed by federal and state funds, including grants, and some local funding.

In addition, $14 million will come as a result of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

HRT is developing the three-building complex connected by pedestrian bridges with Concorde Eastridge, a Northern Virginia developer, under the Public-Private Education and Infrastructure Act, known as PPEA. The law permits government, or government agencies like HRT, to partner with private developers.

HRT operates five other facilities, including its headquarters in Hampton.

HRT has already demolished its vehicle maintenance facility on Armistead Avenue, which is nearly a century old. A facility at the former Ford plant is the temporary home for HRT’s vehicle maintenance plant. HRT transferred about 500 employees, mostly bus drivers and mechanics, to the Ford facility, beginning in October.

Design of the new facility will be ready for the city’s review by next March, according to Sibyl Pappas, a project manager for Patton Harris Rust & Associates, who has worked on the plans for the new facility since 2004 as an outside consultant.

But the plans won’t include a retail component of 58,000 square feet at ground level, most of it facing Monticello Avenue between 14th and 15th streets, as originally proposed.

Nor will they include seven residential towers, four stories high, for a total of 210 apartments, which were part of the original plans.

Pappas said the long-term plan is to have a complex like the one across from it on Monticello, a mix of condominiums, apartments and parking garages, developed by Bristol Development.

For now, the mixed use component is on hold, due to tight credit and soft demand for this type of urban product.

“Everything is going to 18th Street,” said HRT spokesman Tom Holden.

Pappas said the developer is very focused and very much wants the project to go forward.

Phase two calls for construction of a 36,000-square-foot administrative building.

“There was a period when they were considering a green roof,” Holden said.

HRT and the developer expect the administrative building to meet enough of the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design checklist to receive a gold rating. The certification is given by the U.S. Green Building Council to properties that meet environmental and sustainable standards.

“This is a really important project for HRT,” Holden said. “It is long overdue. The old maintenance facility outlived its usefulness. It’s from another generation.

“Portions of it date back to the turn of the century. Nothing about it was modern – it still had trolley tracks going into the bays.”

The new complex will feature a 63,000-square-foot vehicle maintenance facility with 20 bus bays, a central parts store room, major and minor rebuilds, a mechanics training area and a 16,000-square- foot room for dispatch.

A separate 15,000-square-foot facility is slated for bus washings, bus fueling, bus retrieval, building and grounds.

The administrative facility will house administration service planning, scheduling and marketing communications departments.

The main offices will be connected to a single-level, elevated parking deck, by an access ramp and pedestrian bridge. Buses will park underneath the main parking deck.

Planning for the new complex began in 2002. HRT and the developer had planned to begin demolition and construction next year. But money from the ARRA helped jumpstart the project ahead of schedule.Hampton Roads Transit is on the move.

In another two years, the regional transportation authority will have a contemporary complex on 11 acres on 18th Street in Norfolk.

The whole project will cost $69 million, most of it financed by federal and state funds, including grants, and some local funding.

In addition, $14 million will come as a result of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

HRT is developing the three-building complex connected by pedestrian bridges with Concorde Eastridge, a Northern Virginia developer, under the Public-Private Education and Infrastructure Act, known as PPEA. The law permits government, or government agencies like HRT, to partner with private developers.

HRT operates five other facilities, including its headquarters in Hampton.

HRT has already demolished its vehicle maintenance facility on Armistead Avenue, which is nearly a century old. A facility at the former Ford plant is the temporary home for HRT’s vehicle maintenance plant. HRT transferred about 500 employees, mostly bus drivers and mechanics, to the Ford facility, beginning in October.

Design of the new facility will be ready for the city’s review by next March, according to Sibyl Pappas, a project manager for Patton Harris Rust & Associates, who has worked on the plans for the new facility since 2004 as an outside consultant.

But the plans won’t include a retail component of 58,000 square feet at ground level, most of it facing Monticello Avenue between 14th and 15th streets, as originally proposed.

Nor will they include seven residential towers, four stories high, for a total of 210 apartments, which were part of the original plans.

Pappas said the long-term plan is to have a complex like the one across from it on Monticello, a mix of condominiums, apartments and parking garages, developed by Bristol Development.

For now, the mixed use component is on hold, due to tight credit and soft demand for this type of urban product.

“Everything is going to 18th Street,” said HRT spokesman Tom Holden.

Pappas said the developer is very focused and very much wants the project to go forward.

Phase two calls for construction of a 36,000-square-foot administrative building.

“There was a period when they were considering a green roof,” Holden said.

HRT and the developer expect the administrative building to meet enough of the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design checklist to receive a gold rating. The certification is given by the U.S. Green Building Council to properties that meet environmental and sustainable standards.

“This is a really important project for HRT,” Holden said. “It is long overdue. The old maintenance facility outlived its usefulness. It’s from another generation.

“Portions of it date back to the turn of the century. Nothing about it was modern – it still had trolley tracks going into the bays.”

The new complex will feature a 63,000-square-foot vehicle maintenance facility with 20 bus bays, a central parts store room, major and minor rebuilds, a mechanics training area and a 16,000-square- foot room for dispatch.

A separate 15,000-square-foot facility is slated for bus washings, bus fueling, bus retrieval, building and grounds.

The administrative facility will house administration service planning, scheduling and marketing communications departments.

The main offices will be connected to a single-level, elevated parking deck, by an access ramp and pedestrian bridge. Buses will park underneath the main parking deck.

Planning for the new complex began in 2002. HRT and the developer had planned to begin demolition and construction next year. But money from the ARRA helped jumpstart the project ahead of schedule.

 



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TOD myth is exposed - new economy? No ROI to taxpayers.

Gosh, that must touted mythical TOD (Transit Oriented Development) HRT has been pitchinf to justify its light rail boondoggles is now shown for the myth it really was - and in this case HRT is not willing to stick with their own TOD plans! Gosh, if tens of millions of state, local, and federal taxes are available to be used to subsidize the planned HRT TOD project (LEADS "green" roof and all)- and HRT can't make it happen with all that FREE tax money thrown into the "deal", just imagine how unlikely it is that any PRIVATE developers will be able to find the hundreds of millions needed to build the promised TOD in VA Beach, along the old Norfolk Southern right of way. The light rail TOD ROI myth is being exposed for the sham it is - right here in River City folks!

What?

Do you even read the stories? Or know anything about the project or city or anything remotely relating to this? If you did, you would have known that this is in no way, shape, or form a Transit-Oriented-Development. At most, it is merely a mixed-use development. The light rail is not running even remotely close to this location, therefore it holds no bearing on light rail TOD. Finally, if TOD were a "myth," why would Virginia Beach be looking to redevelop Newtown Road into a TOD around Norfolk's Light Rail station. It would be nice if we could make decision around here based on thought, reason, and knowledge instead of blind, ignorant misconceptions about Norfolk, HRT, mass transit, or TODs.

Apples and Oranges

Of course, no trains will run in Virginia Beach until at least 2015. It's now 2009.

To believe the blathering of Reid Greenmun, Vice Chairman/Transportation Chairman of the extremist VBTA, you have to believe 2009 and 2015 money markets are one in the same. No one would try to argue 2003 and 2009 were.

Duplicate Information

Is it due to just poor reporting, inept editing, or is the pilot now controlled by HRT?

HRT is a gigantic money pit.

It does not make a cent.

On the contrary, it is a huge sucking hole that swallows millions of local, state, and federal dollars under the pretext that it provides an essential service that couldn't be provided more efficiently by any other means.

...

Are you saying that the city streets, highways, airports, or any other mode of transportation makes money? When was the last time we read about the profits of VDOT?

$68 MILLION

would provide an awful lot of bus service, maybe cut ride times significantly and help increase rider ship and lower fares. I feel sure the new HRT HQ will do a lot to help alleviate traffic problems.

Did you just feel...

the slight tug of your wallet being pulled out of your pocket? Yes indeed, your pocket has been picked again. Anytime a "Public/Private" development project takes place it means another politician is feeding your tax dollars to their friends and family. The promise is always the same, "this project will return millions of dollars in tax revenue to the cities coffers" and the outcome is always the same, not a penny in additional revenue is ever seen. Of course the "private" developer always gets their profits up front.

wrong

the developer doesn't get his money until his part of the deal has been built.

stay at the ford plant

I don't understand why the facility couldn't be moved entirely to the Ford Plant. It seems that it's perfectly suited to house all of HRT's operations and cost a lot less than building a new structure.

Because

It's not around downtown norfolk. And since HRT is controlled by the norfolk machine, ie: fraim and company (including the VB mayor), they would not allow HRT to move.

Nothing to do with smart business, only ego.

What a great idea!

But this is our tax money controlled by the government. It would never even be considered.

I'm SO glad

it was able meet enough of the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design checklist to receive a gold rating by the U.S. Green Building Council.

I was worried there for a moment. We certainly don't want a bus maintenance facility that doesn't please THEM!

The U.S. Green Building Council?

Now we have to pass muster with THEM for construction of our buildings?

Hey now thats what everyone

Hey now thats what everyone wants an apartment right above the bus garage. Rev her up again lets see if she'll go to the red line.

do your homework

the apartments aren't over the bus anything. they are around the office portion of the development.

Excuse me?

"But the plans won’t include a retail component of 58,000 square feet at ground level, most of it facing Monticello Avenue between 14th and 15th streets, as originally proposed.

Nor will they include seven residential towers, four stories high, for a total of 210 apartments, which were part of the original plans."

Why would the plans for a bus maintenacne facility include a retail component and apartments?

I know HRT is the puppet of developers, with transit oriented development, but really....apartments?.....retail? Taxpayers beware, the developers hands are in your pocket again!

Mixed Use

"Why would the plans for a bus maintenance facility include a retail component and apartments?"

As it says in the article twice:

"For now, the mixed use component is on hold, due to tight credit and soft demand for this type of urban product.

The way to get PPEA passed through local councils is to include the "mixed use" portion of the proposal.

If those specific proffers were not offered by the developer, it would be next to impossible to get any infrastructure built. Most are dropping their profs anyway and just building the other components of what is approved on their build out.

Hope that helps to explain why the housing units are gone.

What about the availability of our tax money

The economy is too soft for the private portion of the project but of course the bus system would come to a complete halt if we don't spend $69 million of our tax money. Gosh, I'm getting tired of this stuff. Why can't we tell these guys they have to tighten their belts, too???!!!

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