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Tea partiers turn on each other

Posted to: Nation - World News

By Kenneth P. Vogel

After emerging out of nowhere over the summer as a seemingly potent and growing political force, the tea party movement has become embroiled in internal feuding over philosophy, strategy and money and is at risk of losing its momentum.

The grass-roots activists driving the movement have become increasingly divided on such core questions as whether to focus their efforts on shaping policy debates or elections, work on a local, regional, state or national level or closely align themselves with the Republican Party, POLITICO found in interviews with tea party organizers in Washington and across the country.

Many of these differences date to the movement’s beginnings last winter in an outpouring of anger about the huge increases in government spending enacted by President Barack Obama and the Democratic Congress. But they were overshadowed by the initial explosion of activism that culminated during the congressional town hall meetings in August.

Now the disagreements and the sense of frustration they have engendered could diminish the movement’s potential influence in state and national politics.

“These groups don’t play as well together as they should,” said Kevin Jackson, a St. Louis-based conservative author and activist who has spoken at dozens of tea party-type rallies and is traveling across the South with a convoy sponsored by the national Tea Party Patriots group.

“They’re fractured at the organization level, I think mainly because there are a lot of people who have not had managerial experience who all of a sudden are thrust into the limelight and become intoxicated with it. And when a potential rift comes up, instead of handling it and maybe agreeing to disagree, they splinter and go off on their own.”

The movement is composed of hundreds of independent local groups, many of which are incorporated as nonprofits and have localized names referencing the tea parties, 9/12 or We the People.

Many of their members also belong to national conservative groups, including FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity and Grassfire, while the local groups often affiliate formally or informally with loose-knit umbrella organizations, including the Tea Party Patriots and Tea Party Nation.

The organizational chaos — combined with a widening apathy at the edges of the movement — has produced a growing consensus among local, state and national tea party leaders that for the movement to evolve from the loose conglomeration of fired-up activists who mobilized this summer to register their dissatisfaction with Obama and Congress at town hall protests and marches across the country into a sustainable bloc with the power to shape the GOP and swing elections, it will require the emergence of a national leader, group or structure.

Ned Ryun, president of American Majority, a nonprofit that has conducted organizer-training sessions for many tea party activists, said “the next three to six months” are going to be critical in determining “what’s going to happen with the tea party movement. Are they going to be a bunch of fingers, or are they going to come together to be a fist?”

Yet, while some tout a planned National Tea Party Convention in February (at which former Alaska governor and tea party darling Sarah Palin is listed as the keynote speaker) as a potentially unifying moment and others point to online coordination efforts, there is deep disagreement about what any national organization would look like and who would lead it.

FreedomWorks, Americans for Prosperity, Grassfire, Americans for Limited Government and a host of other groups have helped organize various efforts capitalizing on the energy behind the tea parties, including providing training, online war rooms that help generate phone calls and ready-to-distribute canvassing literature.

But the groups have also jockeyed — mostly behind the scenes — to take credit for leadership of the movement, which — depending on who’s doing the telling — took its name either as an homage to the 1773 Boston tax revolt that played a major role in sparking the American Revolution or from an acronym standing for “taxed enough already.”

Some activists see the turmoil within the movement and the internal clashes as simply a part of maturing.

“Some of these groups may burn out, but this is part of this entrepreneurial process and the competition is good,” said Adam Brandon, vice president of communications for FreedomWorks, a nonprofit chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas.

The group has facilitated some of the efforts demonstrating the potential power of the movement. Those have included the confrontations that erupted at congressional town halls this summer, the massive Sept. 12 “Taxpayer March on Washington” as well as another Washington rally this month and support for conservative third-party candidate Doug Hoffman, who narrowly lost a special congressional election in upstate New York this month despite strong support from many tea party groups and leaders.

Brandon stressed that the strength of the tea party movement is in its grass-roots nature and that FreedomWorks’s goal is to help facilitate the movement, not to control it.

“One thing that’s clear is that anyone who says they own the tea party movement is going to get run over because no one owns the movement,” he said.

Brandon acknowledged the “rivalries and turf battles” now gripping parts of the movement but said “that’s normal because people have different ideas about what they want. That’s what’s happening now, and it’s sometimes a painful process.”

Those fights have been waged over issues that go to the heart of the movement’s purpose and strategy as well as more mundane rivalries and personal feuds.

In Myrtle Beach, S.C., disputes within the local tea party about how much to engage in partisan politics and whether board members were profiting from contracts to print paraphernalia emblazoned with the group’s logo prompted the treasurer to resign and join with defectors from a North Carolina We the People group to form a new organization. “There’s a lot of fighting, and everyone wants to be in charge, and that’s why you have so many splinter groups,” said ex-treasurer Janet Spencer, who charged her adversaries within the tea party with saying “derogatory things about me that were very unprofessional.”

She said her new group, called Patriotic Voices of America/Carolina Patriots, counts about 100 members and will not coordinate with the Myrtle Beach Tea Party, whose treasurer, David Ognek, said the friction is “just group dynamics.”

In Texas, a handful of thriving tea party groups severed their ties from the national Tea Party Patriots group after it ousted, then sued a founding board member who had affiliated with a rival group called the Tea Party Express.

“Our fight is in Congress and not with each other or with these other groups,” said Toby Marie Walker, who was the Texas state coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots and also co-founded the Waco, Texas, tea party.

This Waco group recently drew an estimated 4,000 people to a rally it organized with the Tea Party Express, which travels the country hosting rallies. The month before, it had pulled out of the Tea Party Patriots after the Patriots group accused the Tea Party Express of steering the movement away from nonpartisan issue-based advocacy, embracing extremist rhetoric and raising questions about the Express’s finances.

The Patriots’ attack and lawsuit worried the Waco group’s board, Walker said, because “if you align yourself with someone who is going to be that malicious, then how do we know they won’t turn on us?”

Other local tea party groups, though, cast their lots with the Patriots, heeding the group’s call to disassociate with the Tea Party Express.

In Granbury, Texas, local tea party organizer Josh Sullivan says he believes the movement’s effectiveness is being compromised by extremism.“You have some interesting folks in the Tea Party movement — some of them I can support, but some of them are kind of out there and radical, and I don’t want to associate myself with them,” he said. In Northern Colorado, meanwhile, a handful of active 9/12 groups — named for the Glenn Beck-encouraged effort to stage the Sept. 12 Washington march — are unhappy with the state 9/12 group’s aversion to fundraising and with its focus on national issues and have discussed forming their own rival statewide group.

“People are beginning to become a little bit de-energized — they’re starting to feel like they’re fighting a losing battle, because we send a lot of letters into Washington, D.C., and things like that, and people are saying they’re not listening,” said Brian Britton, who heads the Greeley, Colo., 9/12 group.

That fear is echoed by Glenn Galls, a Hot Springs, Ark., tea party organizer frustrated with the focus of Arkansas’s state-level tea party groups on national races and issues such as cap and trade and health care.

“If the tea party movement is going to continue to thrive and to grow and to have influence,” he said, “it must start coming together and coalescing and finding its purpose in life, because if it doesn’t, the excitement will fade like it does from anything else.”

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New Comment Test

Just wondering why there haven't been any new comments on a hot topic.

Hi Ptown76. I think no one

Hi Ptown76. I think no one has commented today because the those who hold freedom dear are still in a state of shock/mourning after watching the Senate vote last night. The liberals were busy staying up late watching MTV or some other drivel and might not be awake yet!

Don't hit your head

when you fall off your high horse.

Predictable

When you put smart people together, the synergy is like muliplying whole numbers: smart person one = 2, smart person two = 2 & smart person 3 = 2, the sum of the parts is 6 but the synergy is 8. However when you intellecutally challenged people together: person one = 1/2, person two = 1/2 and person three = 1/2. The sum of the parts is 1.5 however when these people synergize the effect is 1/8 or .125, in essence things get worse. We see this effect with the T-Party.

T-Party folks provide many hours of amusement and I would like to find their next gathering so I can ridicule them and ask them questions like "what was the price of oil before we invaded Iraq and what is it today" "who supports our currency" "what was the dollar vs. euro in 2000 and what is it today?".

Tea Partiers

This article proves the tea party movement is a true grass roots movement of people fed up with government taking bigger and bigger chunks of our income and our liberty. Bush started it; Obama accelerated it. If tea partiers were a bunch of dupes being manipulated behind the scenes by some nefarious national network, would they be "turning on" each other at this point? The tea partiers have one thing in common: fury over the growing size, unconstitutional scope, and irresponsible spending of the federal government. Beyond that, the people I've met include Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, independents, fervently religious, fervently irreligious, button-downed and tanned, tattooed and pierced, retired, employed, not working by choice, not working by chance, parents, students, political veterans, political neophytes, and everything in between. Fortunately in Hampton Roads, our differences don't get in the way of the goal: a smaller, more responsible, constitutionally correct federal government.

Ugh, I hate to burst your bubble

but the Teapartiers were organized by a national group. You can thank Tom Gaithens from Freedomworks since it really was his idea. Americans for Prosperity also is in this to the hilt. And you should know that your assertion 'If tea partiers were a bunch of dupes being manipulated behind the scenes by some nefarious national network, would they be "turning on" each other at this point?' defies logic, and you should know better. Especially since you decided to deride another poster by pounding the table as a UVA grad and a member of PBK and Mensa. Logic aside, the facts are not with you.

Let me explain

Let me explain. Assume that a national organization--call it a NO--did dupe the teapartiers into organizing as grassrooters so the NO could use them to thwart the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda. Over the spring and summer, then, the NO easily managed to organize these angry, ignorant, prejudiced people for protests and town halls; to keep these uninformed dupes on a consistent message; and to maintain that pressure well into the fall. Any NO that skillful would be able to squelch the infighting and keep the teapartiers speaking with one voice while the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda still has life. But the Tea Party movement isn't speaking with one voice, because it isn't just one voice. The Tea Party movement is a loose coalition of regional, state, local, and, yes, some national groups that share information and coordinate efforts. But there isn't some nefarious national organization, some Republican version of ACORN, secretly organizing, funding, and directing it all.

Deny all you want, it does not make it true

Freedomworks is behind it. It has been well-documented since last spring really in Februaury). You can call it what you want, but it is not grass roots.

http://www.freedomworks.org/publications/the-taxpayer-tea-party-movement-is-growing

High rage + low I.Q. = Teabaggers

The only surprise is it's happening so quickly. Maybe not.

Chunky, Chunky, Chunky

I am for the Tea Parties. As a member of Mensa, I will put my IQ and academic record (CPA, Major in Accounting, Minor in Economics and MBA in Finance, all from the University of Virginia) against yours any day of the week. My guess is that you were an average student and, if you even went to college, went to Podunk U or a similar place. See those of us who are intelligent are tired of those in Washington like Bush Sr., Clinton, "W" and Obama who are spending this country into insolvency. At least Reagan's spending was for defense which is one of the few areas the Constitution gives the Federal government express powers over. Never mind, I am sure these facts are way beyond your ability to comprehend.

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