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Wake's Grobe, 2 ex-Cavs aides cited as Groh successor

Posted to: College Football Sports


By Doug Doughty

Hampton High football coach Mike Smith was hardly shy about broadcasting who he supports as the next head football coach at Virginia.

He called Virginia athletic director Craig Littlepage on Monday to back Wake Forest head coach Jim Grobe and Richmond head coach Mike London as possible successors for Al Groh, fired Sunday after nine years as the Cavaliers' head coach.

"I was calling on behalf of the Virginia High School Coaches' Association," Smith said, adding that there had been no vote of any kind by the group. "I'm the executive director. I make executive decisions, just like Al Groh."

Suggesting London, a former Virginia assistant who took Richmond to the Football Championship Subdivision title in his first year last season, is hardly surprising. He gets mentioned in virtually every conversation about a potential Groh successor.

Grobe, though, is a less obvious name, and he's seen as a less viable candidate because of the $2 million buyout he would have to pay for breaking a 10-year contract extension he signed with Wake in 2007.

"They've got plenty of money," said Smith, aware of a $4.33 million settlement the Cavaliers made with Groh. "They could go halvsies with him. There isn't anybody I know who doesn't hold Jim Grobe in the highest esteem."

Grobe played at Virginia from 1973-74 and has numerous in-state connections.

At this point, though, speculation about names is just that. If U.Va. has a list of names, no one is talking about it.

Sonny Randle, who coached Grobe at Virginia and later hired Grobe at Marshall, said a possible hang-up for anyone considering the job would be the upcoming retirement of U.Va. president John Casteen. Randle, who lives in Staunton and does radio commentary, thinks many coaches would be wary of taking over a program where the identity of the president is unknown.

"Jim Grobe would be a great, great hire for them," Randle said. "He would be the answer. I don't think there's any question about that.... (Fellow analyst) Doc Walker said, 'Nobody in the league can touch him.' "

Randle has said on numerous occasions, however, that he doesn't think Virginia can get Grobe, 57.

Most speculation has centered on London, 49, and 40-year-old Temple University head coach Al Golden, primarily because of their U.Va. ties. Both were on Groh's original U.Va. staff in 2001, Golden as defensive coordinator and London as recruiting coordinator.

London left following the 2004 season to become the Houston Texans' defensive-line coach, only to return 15 months later after the dismissal of the Texans' staff. Golden took the Temple job after the 2005 season and has put together a 19-29 record. However, the Owls won nine games in a row this year after an 0-2 start and are bowl-eligible at 9-3.

Shawn Moore, the ACC Player of the Year for Virginia in 1990, said he would like Virginia to take a look at one of his former teammates, 41-year-old Derek Dooley, the head coach and athletic director at Louisiana Tech.

Dooley, who worked with Nick Saban at LSU and with the Miami Dolphins, took over a Louisiana Tech team that went 3-10 in 2006 and had the Bulldogs in the Independence Bowl two years later. However, Louisiana Tech is 3-8 this season.

Moore would be happy with London, as well.

"He'd be like Jim Tressell," said Moore, referring to Ohio State's coach, who previously had worked at Division I-AA Youngstown State.

The advantage that London and Golden have is that they have recruited in Virginia. Regaining credibility in in-state recruiting is one of the major challenges facing U.Va.'s new coach.

"Every year, if you look at northern Virginia and the Tidewater area, we have some of the top kids in the country playing right here in the state," Moore said. "And if those kids aren't considering Virginia or not taking visits to Virginia, that's got to be corrected."



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Big Splash Needed

No way Littlepage hires an ex-Groh assistant. He must make a big splash. Grobe would be good but you don't often see a coach move within his own conference.

I like Skip Holtz or Tommy Turbeyville, ex-Auburn coach. And London might be a great choice but hiring a FCS coach just isn't a big enough splash for UVA.

Big Splash Needed

It's probably unfortunate, but Littlepage needs to make a big splash with his selection. Former UVA assistants will not make the cut, nor will London as an FCS coach. Turbeyville or Grobe might make it. I like the guy here who suggests Skip Holtz, too.

Skip Holtz?

What about Skip Holtz? Did a good job getting the UCONN football program elevated to FBS before he left for East Carolina. He's done a pretty good job down at ECU since his hire as well. Plus he would already be familiar with the recruiting of this region because of his time at ECU.

I don't think bringing in any former assistants to Al Groh is a good idea. Bring in new blood that has been successful with other programs and ready to move up or take on the challenge of elevating UVA to higher levels within the ACC.

New Coach

Bring in proven winners! I am talking about Bobby Bowden and his three sons, two of which have had plenty of success as head coaches. They would love to work together and THOSE GUYS CAN RECRUIT! I think Bobby still has five good years in him and FSU is foolish to let him go.

D-1AA (FCS) Won't Cut It

Littlepage has GOT to make a big splash. D-1AA or former Groh assistants? I don't think so.

The Boise State Coach or Tommy Turbeyville would achieve that. Wake's coach Grob? Not a bad choice but you don't often see coaches change jobs within the same conference.

My view is purely subjective here

But I know it has no realistic shot in happening...Chris Beatty. Chris Beatty's elevation of winning over academics will never fly at UVA, in fact thats why we'll never get the type of kids he could recruit, in terms of talent. But I have always loved his offense. He could put points on the board much better than Al Groh ever could, and his local touch would still do wonders for bringing in 757 guys and other virginia players. Though Boise State's coach would not be a bad idea, for us. If he can maintain Boise State's place as a power, imagine what he could do with an ACC school which has a BCS advantage.

Al Groh's replacement

The Daily Progress in Charlottesville has already named Boise State's Chris Petersen as Groh's heir apparent. Of course, a lot can happen between now and the final decision by Craig Littlepage, but having Petersen at the helm would bring UVa football into the brighter spotlight so desired by many UVa alums. (Not me BTW) Don't get me wrong, I would like to see a successful football program, but to me the true indicator of a university or college's success is how it is viewed nationally in other standings- academic, student life, value for the $$. And I'm no fair weather fan like quite a few "no-shows" that have abandoned the team this year- I have attended games through both the lean times and the good times and will continue to make the treks to Charlottesville to cheer on the Hoos. Let's all return to C-Ville en masse and support the team next year, regardless of who the coach is and how the team is playing.

Lateral at best...

Jon Oliver, Executive Associate Athletics Director, is a Boise State grad, so there is a logical connection. But, no matter how the faithful view THE University, UVa would be a lateral move at best for Peterson. His salary at BSU is reportedly $900K, which makes him a bargain, but he probably noticed that leaving Boise State didn't work out too well for Dan Hawkins at Colorado. The only reason Hawkins still has a job is that CU cannot come up with the money to buy him out.

Speaking of $, London and Golden, both could be had for considerably less than what Groh was making. Plus, it would not be a hard sell--FCS to BCS or Philadelphia to Charlottesville? Who wouldn't jump? Both recruited well while at UVa. What about London and Ed Ayers (former UVa history prof and Dean, now UR president) as a twofer?

Grobe is a reach. O'Brien set a precedent when he jumped from BC to NCSU; generally that's taboo. Grobe would have been a great hire a few years ago, but he may also be a bit long in the tooth for a rebuilding job of this magnitude. Plus, he's not had such a great year this year. Looking at youth, Dooley has picked a bad year to have a bad year. He's also the AD. Wonder if Littlep

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