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Study into HRBT flooding prompts monitoring changes

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RICHMOND

When flooding shut down the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel on July 2, the caretakers of local tunnels conducted fewer inspections and placed less emphasis on maintenance than their counterparts in other states, a report released Wednesday concluded.

The study is the result of an investigation by a panel of outside experts into the flooding, which went undetected for about nine hours, closing the tunnel and snarling traffic throughout the region.

While a burst water main was the source of the flooding, Virginia Department of Transportation officials said human errors led to the slow response. They said they've adopted several of the report's recommendations in an effort to prevent future mistakes.

Problems at the HRBT began when a water pipe burst on the night of July 1. Over several hours, more than a million gallons of water filled a section of a 7-foot-high chamber beneath the roadway. As rush-hour traffic was building the next morning, water was detected at the lowest point of the westbound traffic lane. Eleven minutes later, traffic stopped.

VDOT Commissioner David Ekern said if the pipe burst were to happen today, new detection equipment and better procedures for the staff would prevent a problem from being ignored.

Among the changes: Shift supervisors are now required to walk through the structures twice each shift to check with "human eyes" rather than rely solely on sensors, he said. The state will periodically hire independent inspectors to examine tunnel systems.

Officials also plan to spend nearly $50 million through 2012 to make improvements at the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel, $8 million each at the Monitor-Merrimac and Midtown tunnels, and $5 million at the Downtown Tunnel. Already this year, they have moved forward with plans to install new water-flow sensors that can alert staff to water-main breaks.

On tap for next year are closed-circuit television cameras to be placed inside the tunnels to help staff better monitor conditions.

However, they are still wrestling with whether to have maintenance workers stationed in tunnels round-the-clock, which was a deficiency identified in the panel's report.

"We haven't made that conclusion yet," said Dennis Heuer, VDOT's Hampton Roads district administrator. "We have monetary constraints. We have people constraints."

Under current practices, technicians are on call but not present in tunnels at all hours.

All of the changes since July, Ekern hopes, will "translate directly into driver confidence, community confidence."

"I've got a high degree of confidence in my management staff and in the workers that are there every day doing the job," he said. "They're doing the best they can with the tools they got."

The review panel was appointed by Ekern in the wake of public outcry over the flooding. Among its 11 members are state officials and tunnel operators from Maryland and New York.

Seven VDOT employees have been disciplined as a result of the flooding, said state officials, who have declined to discuss what happened to them. At least one employee has been fired, according to a source close to VDOT.

Fixing the bridge-tunnels wasn't the only topic discussed at Wednesday's Commonwealth Transportation Board meeting.

Members were told that nearly $894 million more will need to be cut out of the state's six-year road-building program because of declining revenues, much of which come from taxes on gasoline and automobile sales.

The cuts to be approved this morning are in addition to $3.7 billion in earlier reductions.

Julian Walker, (804) 697-1564, julian.walker@pilotonline.com

Bill Bartel, (757) 446-2398, bill.bartel@pilotonline.com

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HRBT Changes

Well now, The Commissioner says the "the Supervisor will make a walk through inspection twice on every shift,to have eyes on a potential problem" one person was fired and seven others received written notices.
Commissioner,do you have any idea what goes on in the Control Rooms of those tunnels? Leave your office in Richmond, and come and work in one of the Control Rooms for a week or so. Some people who were promoted to the position of Supervisor, are dumber then a box of rocks,and don't know anything about supervising or working people,much less knowing what to do in case of an Emergency. The people under them are often or not,more qualified,and have been during the job for a longer period of time. No one in VDOT gets promoted based on qualifications,but quotas. You yourself, should get too know the tunnels,go under the roadway and let Maintaintence show you what they do, then you would have a better understanding of what goes on. I always hated working for a boss who was dumber then me,telling me how to do my job.Your problems with HRBT are with some people not knowing their jobs, as well as old equipment which should have been replaced yrs ago.

Your trust is misplaced

"I've got a high degree of confidence in my management staff and in the workers that are there every day doing the job," he said. "They're doing the best they can with the tools they got." VDOT Commissioner David Ekern

Not complete confidence, just "high" degree of confidence. That's troubling.

Blaming resource scarcity when human error is at fault is failure to acknowledge the original problem.

This on going danger will eventually cost us the lives of you or your neighbor.

Dag nabit, build a bridge over the HRBT!

Semantics and real engineering

The difference between 'high degree of confidence' and 'complete confidence' is strictly one of semantics. It is just a use of different terminology. Saying that it is 'troubling' is nit-picking about what words a person uses in regular conversation, which I don't doubt is the case here.

How many times do civil engineers have to explain that building a bridge between the Southside and the Peninsula is extremely unfeasable given the local conditions before people will understand what they mean? Such a bridge would have to be high enough that aircraft carriers can go under it, making it very vulnerable to high winds. Building the bridge embankments alone would be a colossal task with nothing but sand to build them on. It would require a major amount of concrete and rock, along with deep driven piles. With all that in mind, tunnels are the best solution for this location.

HRBT

Dodah has a point and something he would understand. A comparison in evolution in traffic management would be like going from washing clothes on rocks to industrial washing machines.

Problem

The biggest problem is the tunnel closures.

As long as the tunnel is open all day, the traffic isn't that bad. It doesn't matter how much you widen the tunnel or monitor it. The tunnel will still close for wrecks, breakdowns, loose grates, fuel spills (yesterday), overheight trucks, and floods.

I agree 100% with the poster that suggest we invest in technology to get the disabled vehicles out immediately.

We have more problems with

We have more problems with people that can't maintain 55 through the tunnel. People get scared and slow down, 300 cars back they have to stop. That is why as soon as you get out of the tunnel you can speed right back up.

VDOT

As usual, VDOT gives a good front. Talk is cheap and nothing covered here is only talk with no certifiable way of compliance. Dump VDOT! :-D

one more question

Pssst. Did they by chance ask the experts of these other tunnels how they cleared out deadbeat drivers who cannot seem to under stand “e” on the gas gauge actually means something, or the group of rim riders who tires always go flat in the tunnel. It took 50 years to figure out how to monitor a tunnel. So let’s also figure out how to get stupid drivers who clog up traffic out quicker. I suggest NASCAR hook and go. So how much did we pay the experts to come up with the obvious the VDOT experts and 50 years could not. Just like the overhead signage and smart traffic project and what could be posted. We again were not the first but again we took a piece of stone and made a crude wheel. I think we get the hand me downs from other states then whenever something happens we then to have a study to pass the buck.

VDOT/HRBT

Let the CBBT commission run the HRBT, they seem to operate there bridge tunnel effectively without these incompetent episodes. VDOT after decades of poor performance has lost the public trust. As the state struggles with funds, a good start would be doing away with VDOT and using private contractors for all projects.

Let the CBBT commission run the HRBT

I guess you could do a whole lot more at HRBT if they charged $12 for each round trip like CBBT. Which way do you want it $12 or free? Remember to be careful of what you ask for.... you might get it!

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