The Virginian-Pilot
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As the U.S. Senate completes its first week of debate on a massive health care overhaul bill, Virginia's two senators have been silent.
Sens. Mark Warner and Jim Webb, both Democrats, have said they want comprehensive health care reform that would cut costs and ensure quality care for more people. But they have yet to say what changes are needed in the 2,000-plus-page bill, called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, to win their support.
In rejecting requests for interviews with Webb and Warner this week, their spokespersons said the senators aren't ready to join in the floor debate just yet.
But that could change soon.
Warner has been working with 11 other freshman senators on a package of amendments that might be introduced next week. The proposals include improved collection of information about health care treatments, outcomes and pricing so that they can be studied and compared, said Kevin Hall, Warner's communications director.
The goal would be a transparent system in which costs, treatments and outcomes for patients could be compared across the nation in real time, he said.
It would be a step toward "a health care system that is based more on outcomes than on fees for service," Hall said.
The Senate bill, HR3590, already has provisions that call for supporting research into the outcome of medical treatments, but the 12 senators' proposal would push that goal harder, including a provision to empower the secretary of Health and Human Services to take action, Hall said.
"You can't do it overnight," he said. "The amendments get us focused more quickly on the efforts to change the current model where the health providers are paid by volume rather than outcome."
Meanwhile, Webb is considering proposing amendments that would shift more of the cost of health care from consumers to highly profitable health care insurers, said Jessica Smith, the senator's communications director.
The details are still being discussed, Smith said. "There's so much that goes into this. It's fiscally a very populist view."
Both lawmakers voted Nov. 21 with their fellow Democrats to bring the bill to the floor for debate and an eventual vote, but neither endorsed it as a final product. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who crafted the legislation by merging two other Senate bills, has said the debate will take weeks, including weekends.
The bill, which is similar to a health care measure passed by the House last month, would require most Americans to have health insurance and require all but smaller employers to offer coverage.
Low- and some middle-income Americans would be eligible for federal assistance to pay for all or part of their health insurance. The legislation would establish state-level insurance exchanges or marketplaces where consumers without insurance could choose from an array of plans.
Among those choices would be a government or public insurance plan. However, each state could choose not to offer the public option if it provides health insurance as complete as what the legislation requires.
As in the House-approved bill, the Senate proposal would prohibit insurance companies from denying coverage because of a pre-existing condition or dropping a customer who becomes ill.
The Senate plan would cost about $984 billion over 10 years and would be financed with a new tax on high-cost insurance policies and new fees on certain industries, and through cost savings in Medicare and Medicaid. It would reduce the federal deficit by $130 billion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
Webb and Warner favor requiring most Americans to have health insurance by mandating it for those who can afford it and providing it for those who cannot.
They also aren't opposed to requiring larger businesses to offer health care coverage. But they are concerned about the possible economic hardships on smaller businesses, Hall and Smith said.
Under the Senate bill, businesses with more than 50 employees would be required to offer health insurance or pay a $750 penalty for each worker who gets a tax credit for using a health insurance exchange. Smaller employers would not have to pay the penalty.
In the past, Warner has said he doesn't like the public insurance option and would favor a private, nonprofit cooperative.
Webb has said he supports a government insurance plan as a way to provide competition and lower health care costs. Smith said the senator isn't necessarily wedded to the government plan if another acceptable method for lowering costs can be found.
The two legislators are reluctant to take rigid positions on specific aspects of the bill because the legislation is likely to change as it is debated, their spokespersons said.
"I can't point to three items in the bill that are deal-breakers," Hall said. "There are trade-offs."
Both senators say that their final votes on the bill, which the Democratic leadership will need to pass the legislation, will be driven by basic principles.
"As Sen. Webb has said all along," Smith said, "the bottom line is to achieve a more cost-effective health care system that increases accessibility, affordability and quality of care."
Warner has said controlling the fast-rising cost of medical care is critical to reviving the national economy.
"I will only support a final bill," he said last month, "if I am convinced it will lower the deficit, drive down health care costs over the long term, and improve the value and quality of the health care Virginians receive."
Bill Bartel, (757) 446-2398, bill.bartel@pilotonline.com

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To Simultaneously Reduce Taxes and Health Care Costs
President Obama to a joint session of Congress September 10, 2009: (To our seniors)… “don’t pay attention to those scary stories…. these same folks….just this year, supported a budget that would have essentially turned Medicare into a privatized voucher program. That will never happen on my watch.”
This simple statement belies the Obama/Democrat pay to play health care scam. These people couldn’t care less about the 20 million “uninsured” Americans (who currently are getting their health care for free). Instead, they just want to create another giant bureaucracy from which they and their lawyer pals can skim. Another giant bureaucracy from which they can draw votes and political power.
To simplify the 2000 page health care bill. And to reduce health care costs, simply provide current Medicare and Medicaid recipients with vouchers and let them buy, with these vouchers, whatever health insurance seems to fit their needs. And, simultaneously, end all Blue Cross/Blue Shield tax-exempt status. And issue a federal mandate that allows patients to cross state lines to buy whatever health insurance they wish.
To Heath Care Costs
To simplify the 2000 page health care bill. And to reduce health care costs, simply provide current Medicare and Medicaid recipients with vouchers and let them buy, with these vouchers, whatever health insurance seems to fit their needs. And, simultaneously, end all Blue Cross/Blue Shield tax-exempt status. And issue a federal mandate that allows patients to cross state lines to buy whatever health insurance they wish.
In other words, break up those cozy, lawyer dominated BC/BS (in state) monopolies that drive costs so high. Like the scam that Kathleen Sebelius ran, with her lawyer pals in Kansas, for so many years. Ditto for the Medicare and Medicaid plans and the armies of lawyers and administrators involved therein.
Wake up America! Simpler is better. Just remove the lawyers and the bureaucrats. And open the bidding. And bingo, the health care costs for patients and taxpayers, alike, will plummet. And our economy will recover. But do it the Democrats’ way and our national economic downhill spiral will tragically accelerate.
The saga continues
See what dumb and dumber do next to ensure they get voted out in the next election cycle.
Health Care Reform
"Sens. Mark Warner and Jim Webb, both Democrats, have said they want comprehensive health care reform..." Even though I don't want it nor do I think we need it! I'm not voting for either of these party puppets when their time comes. "Tax and spend, tax and spend..."
Not taking a stand
These two never take a stand except that they want to be reelected. The only replies from their offices are the same trite party lines we can get in any interview from other non-thinking politicians. Warner, from this article, wants the feds to know everything about our individual healthcare. It'll make it easier to ration and easier to control us.
Webb doesn't have a clue, except he is familiar with fiction writing, so that the published savings estimates are easy for him to agree with. This is another in a long line of unconstitutional bills that the last few Congresses and administrations have been pushing. The more we trade our liberty for security, the less of either we will have (A Franklin paraphrase.)
It always trickles down to us
Webb says he wants to shift more of the cost of reform to healthcare companies. Are the companies just going to absorb it? You’re in for a rude awakening if you think so.
public option
has anyone heard of public housing, public schools, public assistance??? they're all potholes full of wasteful spending and endless opportunities for people wanting hand-outs to committ fraud... who in their right mind would want a public option... what a shame!
MOST AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA...
The one thing congress has working for them is most Americans have never been to Europe or anywhere abroad to actually see what the clinics and hospitals are like. Let me tell you folks, its not a pretty sight. There is a reason people come to the U.S. for medical treatment. If it was that good in other countries, they would go there. What part of this does people not get?
I loved this one...
Got this in an e-mail: Let me get this straight.
Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose Chairman says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress which hasn't read it,
signed by a President who smokes,
funded by a Treasury Chief who did not pay his taxes,
overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese,
and financed by a country that is nearly broke.
What could possibly go wrong?
I’m just wondering if this is the “Hope and Change” we were promised ?!?
Just a Laugh...
Differnt Concerns are Enlightening
The difference in approach and emphasis says much about these two individuals. Warner's desire to monitor outcomes and costs reflects his background as a businessman. While this information is important, it will most likely lead to further micromanagement and interference by insurance companies, HMOs and government in restricting your Dr's treatment options by dictating them according to statistics which our biology and medical needs do not generally conform to.
Webb, on the other hand, chooses to focus on shifting costs from consumers to the insurance companies which have most profited at our expense by limiting and denying treatments. Webb consistently shows himself to be a true populist who toes no one's line and acts in the interest of those he represents.