Toyota drivers waver on loyalty

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Every time Glenda Simpson gets into her Toyota Camry, she thinks about the steps she should take if the car were to accelerate out of control.

"I just go through it in my mind," said Simpson, 72, "that I would put it in neutral and put on the brake."

Simpson is a Chesapeake resident who has owned five Toyotas and now has an appointment for her dealership to fix the sticky gas pedal that prompted the automaker to recall her 2008 Camry and several other models. The repair, however, won't mend her damaged confidence in the company.

"It really bothers me, because we have loved our Toyotas," Simpson said. "I'm angry at them. I feel like they didn't do everything that they should have done."

Other area Toyota owners share Simpson's sentiments. Some have grown more concerned as the Japanese automaker addresses questions from Congress about the recalls of millions of vehicles and other potential safety issues.

Problems continue to surface, including Toyota's recall of the Prius' braking system and its new investigation of the Corolla's steering system. This week, a Senate committee asked Toyota executives about independent research into the accelerator problem that indicates it could stem from electronic systems. Toyota officials said they stand by their contention that it is a mechanical, not electronic, issue.

Ann Byrum's feelings about driving her 2010 Camry have escalated from nervousness to fear, the Edenton, N.C., resident said. She bought her car in July from Checkered Flag Toyota in Virginia Beach and plans to take it to the dealership Monday to fix the gas pedal and floor mats, which the automaker also has cited as a source of problems in some vehicles.

"This may not be the real repair," Byrum said, considering the electronic findings. "I'm thinking of trading it out to get another car. I want something I can have confidence in and not be afraid of, even though it's going to cost me money."

As worried as she is, Byrum acknowledged that she has experienced no problem with her Camry.

"I'm just afraid I'm going to get in mine and it's going to run away with me," she said.

That's what Beaulah Moore said happened to her on Dec. 29, 2008, as she was headed to a water aerobics class at the Greenbrier YMCA in Chesapeake in her 2007 Camry. When she put her foot on the brake before shifting into park, the car lunged forward and drove straight into the YMCA building's brick wall, Moore recalled Thursday.

She wasn't hurt but has frightening flashbacks, imagining that she could have hit a child in the parking lot, she said. Two weeks ago, Priority Toyota fixed her gas pedal, though she hadn't yet received a recall notice from Toyota, she said.

Moore said she still believes Toyota builds good vehicles but cannot shake a bit of unease when she gets in her car.

"I feel OK," she said, "but not as OK as I could feel."

Some drivers with cars on Toyota's recall list have yet to receive notification to get the repair because the company is rolling out its notices in phases, said Steve Snyder, senior vice president of the Checkered Flag dealerships. Checkered Flag's technicians are fixing about 200 of the recalled vehicles a day by putting a steel bar inside the pedal. Based on comments from Toyota executives, Snyder said, he has no reason to believe the problem is an electronic one.

Checkered Flag has received calls from worried Toyota owners, he said. He encouraged concerned drivers to call their dealership to get information about their vehicles.

"I would say, 'If you feel unsafe in the car, bring it in,' " he said. "Let us address it."

The intensive publicity about Toyota's problems has heightened some owners' sensitivity, he said. He compared it to the barrage of news coverage of swine flu, which caused anyone with a fever to suspect they had the illness, he said.

"A lot of people start having the symptoms," Snyder said.

In this case, though, the pain for Toyota might last beyond the symptoms. Glenda Simpson and her husband have considered buying a new vehicle - not necessarily a Toyota, she said.

"I was thinking we might get a Honda this time."

Carolyn Shapiro, (757) 446-2270, carolyn.shapiro@pilotonline.com

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It's not just Toyota.

For whatever reasons, over the years, ALL the car manufacturers have been replacing mechanical parts with electronic parts. No more linkage for carburetors, or steering, or gas pedals, or brakes. EVERYTHING is morphing into electronics and mini-computers. Electronics are fine...I love my Dell and Vaio. BUT...if they crash or malfunction, they just go to a repair shop. If the electronics in your car malfunction, you just might end up dead, along with some other innocent people.

I challenge our rulers to force the car manufacturers to provide fail-safe mechanisms, and manual overrides, for all critical functions in their vehicles. If they can't, then go back to proven mechanical systems.

BTW, why doesn't somebody ask why we keep putting CTS gas pedals in cars, when they're the source of the acceleration problem. Only the Denso is safe in the Toyota. Funny I never see that in print.

Due to pollution standards

Replacing things such as a mechanical throttle valve control with a computer controlled device was required in order to reach the new government pollution standards. Among other things, it allows the computer to regulate engine deceleration and prevent unburned gas from going into the atmosphere.

here we go...

Yup, here we go.... Media driven hysteria, over reaction and Toyota bashing will hurt Toyota sales which will lead to decreased production wich will lead to plant slow downs or shut downs which will lead to Thousands of AMERICAN jobs lost. And then...........the Politicians and the Media that caused the hysteria will scream that big bad Toyota is putting Americans out of work.

Ya'll can figure this one out, I'm going out for a ride in my Toyota.

That's the funny part

Yea, that's the funny part about nationalist hype. You can get your Toyota "import" what was built in Kentucky or your Chevy Aveo "domestic" made in Korea.

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Been driving Toyotas since January of ’99. I’ve had five during that time. When I want another new car or truck it’ll be a Toyota.

i'd buy one

i currently own two vehicles...a 1996 camry with over 200k miles on it and a 2002 ford focus with 56k miles on it. not one rotable part has been changed on the toy.the ford meanwhile has more time going up and down than back and forth.starting problems,dashbord lights intermitent,pwr door locks replaced twice.pwr window motor replaced twice.i will not be afraid to purchase another toy.

Your anecdote

Your anecdote doesn't match the data either. Ford and Toyota are pretty much the same on service issues. The service costs vary by model and not nameplate anyway. The Camry is a significantly more expensive car than a Focus, so you're going to get better parts.

I've also never heard of having to swap out those kind of parts multiple times in any 8 year old car. You might want to take it to someone else, as they're probably missing the real problem.

Reminds me

This reminds of the Ford/Firestone hype but many times bigger. They actually used an anecdote for testimony. That showed without a doubt that this is political and not technical.

Tinfoil hat!

I really don't see how this is political, and the people who are trying to make it out to be are insane. It has a lot more to do with the fact that people don't know anything about how a car works anymore. There's probably a lot of drivers who don't know what the positions on an automatic transmission selector do, other than P-R-D.

Personally, I'd slap a gas-guzzler tax on every non-hybrid gasoline-powered vehicle with an automatic transmission ($6500). I'd also mandate audible warning sensors in those cars to prevent following too closely. If you're too close for your speed, a very loud alarm goes off. Sure, might distract you on your cell phone, but that's the point.

Noticed it Wednesday afternoon on I-64 in Bowers Hill. Camry less than fifteen feet from the car in front of it doing at least 65mph. Behind the Camry was an F-150, probably only about 10 feed back. On a wet highway. Yeah, they're gonna stop in time....

Use of anecdotes

The use of an anecdote to prove a point is scientifically invalid. That makes it political.

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