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Va. House panel OKs repeal of gun-purchase limit

Posted to: News Politics State Government Virginia

By Michael Sluss

RICHMOND

The most gun-friendly committee in the General Assembly struck a blow Friday against Virginia's most recognized gun-control law.

The House Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee endorsed legislation that would repeal Virginia's one- gun-a -month law, setting up a vote in the full House of Delegates next week. The measure is likely to pass in the GOP-controlled House.

The committee's 15-6 vote came on the same day that the full House passed legislation that would allow Virginians with concealed-carry permits to have concealed handguns in establishments that serve alcohol, as long as they don't drink.

A Senate panel endorsed similar legislation earlier this week.

Gov. Bob McDonnell indicated during his election campaign that he would sign legislation allowing concealed weapons in restaurants and bars. He also said he favored repeal of the one- gun-a-month law, a signature initiative of former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder that McDonnell supported as a legislator in 1993.

The House committee endorsed the repeal despite objections from opponents who complained that the legislation was rammed through a subcommittee and the committee with little public notice.

Supporters of HB49 said the state's limit on handgun purchases has lost its effectiveness after lawmakers carved out an array of exceptions over the years, including an exception for gun owners with concealed-carry permits. The bill has backing from the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights groups.

"It may have had a purpose in 1993 when it was passed," said the bill's sponsor, Del. Scott Lingamfelter, R-Prince William County. "But if it did, the rationale for this statute has been neutered by all the exemptions that now exist."

Lingamfelter also argued that the evolution of instant electronic background checks has rendered the state law unnecessary and provided a safeguard against gun purchases by criminals.

"In reality, one gun a month, as it is euphemistically referred to, does not stop crime," Lingamfelter said. "Criminals who are inclined to break the law don't obey this one."

All of the committee's Republican members who were present supported Lingamfelter's bill, as did Democrats Jim Shuler of Blacksburg and Lynwood Lewis of Accomack County. Shuler said he agreed with Lingamfelter's assertion that the one-gun-a-month law has become unnecessary.

Opponents of the bill said scrapping the law would, among other things, open the door for straw purchases of guns that would be resold to criminals and others who want to avoid electronic background checks.

"If someone walks into a store and buys 10 brand-new Glocks, they're not putting them into their own pocket for their own protection," said Andrew Goddard, a gun-control activist whose son was wounded in the 2007 shootings at Virginia Tech. "They're buying 10 new Glocks because they're trying to sell them to somebody."

Goddard said lawmakers have created multiple avenues for gun buyers to avoid background checks. He cited a bill (HB69) the committee endorsed Friday that would exempt firearms and ammunition made and sold within Virginia from federal firearms laws.

Goddard and other opponents of the bill said they hope to enlist Wilder's help in defeating Lingamfelter's bill if it reaches the Senate. Wilder did not respond to a phone message left at his office. But the former governor has been critical of elected officials in both parties who have advocated repealing the limit on handgun purchases.

Opponents of Lingamfelter's bill also questioned the way the House committee handled the legislation. The bill was heard at a hastily called subcommittee meeting Thursday before going to the full committee Friday morning. But no docket for Friday's committee meeting was published in advance, leaving the public in the dark about what legislation would be heard.

House Majority Leader Morgan Griffith, R-Salem, defended the committee's handling of the bill but acknowledged that "sometimes things don't work as smoothly as they ought to."

"This bill is not one that was filed at the last minute and should be a surprise," said Griffith, noting that Lingamfelter's bill was filed Dec. 21. "The citizens of the commonwealth have had lots of time to look at this bill and discuss it."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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I didn't call anyone a racist

I didn't call anyone a racist, nor do I use the words "gun nut" unless I'm quoting someone esle.
I have no probelm with the right to bear arms. I do have a problem with guns in my face. I have a probelm with people who think that just because you have a CCP that you are "the safest of citizens", as one gun advocate put it. I have a problem with being able to buy more than 1 gun a month because I see it is a threat to the very economy of our Commonwealth. I do not want Virginia to be know as a gun state. I could go on, but there isn't enough space.
The only info I can find about the "average NRA member" is put out by the NRA, and the little that I did find is that few black are members. I was hoping someone could tell us the truth abouit their memebership instead of NRA's hipe.
Please remember my right.....Freedom of Speech.

21st century

Instant background checks have made this law unnecessary. As for straw purchases, they are illegal already. We don't need more gun control laws. We need to enforce the laws we already have.

Does anybody really think that a person with a gun who is about to walk into a school and murder people, is going to stop and change his mind about murder because it's illegal to carry the gun into the school.

By definition, criminals do not obey the law. If guns are outlawed, then the only people who will have guns are the people who do not obey the law. All of the law-abiding citizens will be disarmed.

Fear of lawfully armed citizens is the number 1 deterent of violent crime.

"the black thing"

For many white americans "the black thing" is THE reason why they want so many guns. The fear the South is going to rise again, is till alive and well in America. That same mentality is passed on to their children, and the cycle continues.

Do you know the "average NRA member"?

"the slander thing"

I realize the Pilot would rather I didn't respond to you personally; I've been warned about it, in fact, but this posting requires comment. I just can't sit here and have you slander a whole group of people by calling them racists.

It would be refreshing if you could find a way of debating your point of view on its merits instead if just insulting people with whom you disagree. I appreciate that there are people who hate firearms. I know there are some who would relish the idea of the Second Amendment being repealed. I respect their position. I just happen to disagree with them and say so without calling them "anti-gun nuts," say their fear of firearms has some kind of Freudian connection or that they are afraid of white people with guns, all of which would be the equivalent of the things many anti-gun folks say on the Pilot's comments sections.

Incidentally, I would as you the same queston you posed: do you know the average NRA member? Based on your comments, I highly doubt it.

culture of fear

There is such a culture of fear going on that it borders on lunacy. If you feel you need an armory in your garage, then maybe you need to examine what exactly your afraid of. Don't worry, the black guy in the White House isn't coming for your precious guns. The NRA has brainwashed these folks into actually thinking that arming every American to the teeth will actaully make us a safer society. It's pathetic.

Why do you always bring up

Why do you always bring up the black thing? I know change can be hard but should we not get past that? Are you at risk of not being so cool if there was not a race issue for you to bring up? No class

the reason is simple

To some people left of center any criticism of President Obama can only be because of his race. It's much easier to dismiss criticism that way rather than debate the actual issues.

I was just as critical of President Clinton in the earlier years of his administration - before reality forced him back toward the center - and the last time I checked he's a Southern white guy. I also bought all of my firearms when white guys were in the White House. I even bought more than one in a month one time - gasp! None of them has been used in a crime, none of them has shot anything other than paper or steel targets and I can account for all of them.

Illegal In Other States Drive 95 Through NC-VA and Get It All

Soon they will advertising along Interstate 95 just like JRs in North Carolina. "Last Stop For Cheap Guns-No Limit" or "Bubba's Discount Guns and Beer". Just think, you can travel through North Carolina and pickup your cigarettes and fireworks then stop in Virginia and get your guns and ammo. Should change the slogan "Virginia is for Lovers" to "Virginia is for Rednecks".......

Ridiculus

Your comment just shows how ignorant you are. According to you every citizen who legally owns a firearm is a "redneck". I beg to differ with you as I'm a law abiding, gun toting, concealed weapons permitted, US citizen that's proud of my right to bear arms and protect myself and probably you also from the criminals out there.

no thank you

If in part you carry a gun because you want to protect others then let me say....no thank you! I don't want your protection. Why? Because I have better sense then to go to a restaurant/club/bar where I feel unsafe. You might want to give it a try!

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