The Virginian-Pilot
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VIRGINIA BEACH
City Manager Jim Spore's memos to the City Council are usually written in the traditional tone of the detached civil servant.
So heads turned earlier this month when he unloaded on proposed guidelines for regulating electronic signs, commonly called LEDs.
Spore, who wants them banned outright, wrote: "Is the chaotic, cluttered roadside lined with electronic advertisements all screaming for public attention what we want to achieve? Do we reasonably need to know where the CVS is located or do we need to bombarded with the fact that Coke is on sale that day or Pringles are 2 for $1.89?"
But the decision is not his. It's the City Council's, and today members will be briefed on proposed rules for the proliferating and unregulated signs.
In a city with a legacy of aggressive sign enforcement, from the ban on billboards to resort-area sign regulations of the 1990s, LEDs are an emotional topic.
Some council members fear allowing them would return Virginia Beach to its gaudy past.
"We've done so much and come so far I'd hate to see us backslide," Councilwoman Barbara Henley said.
Others, such as Councilman Glenn Davis, praised the signs and questioned a ban given that the city and some schools have their own LED signs.
As for Spore's influence?
"His comments got my attention," Mayor Will Sessoms said.
As technology has improved, the cost of LED - light-emitting diode - signs has come down, making them attractive to more businesses, schools and churches. Depending on complexity, they cost from $10,000 to $100,000 but can save money in other ways.
"They last so long and save so much in electricity, and that helps defray the cost," said Herb Wallace, sales manager at Artlite, a Chesapeake sign company.
About 100 LEDs have gone up across Virginia Beach, planners estimate, and requests for more are pouring in. In South Hampton Roads, only Norfolk bans them, although there have been several exceptions, including the large sign at Nauticus.
The Beach debate erupted in August when Wave Church on North Great Neck Road got City Council approval for a large LED sign. Neighbors, citing aesthetics and safety concerns, were outraged.
"It's cheapened the neighborhood because what you have is not a tasteful church sign," said resident Keith Canty, who argued against the sign.
After that, the city stopped approving LEDs in order to come up with rules. About 20 sign applications have been put on hold since September, frustrating applicants and sign business owners.
The leading proposal the City Council will hear today would restrict LED signs to single-color text on a black background. Pictures and videos would be prohibited.
"You couldn't have an oil can with flapping wings," said David Redmond, a planning commission member who helped draft the proposal.
The rules also would mandate the time between changing messages to at least one minute. Many signs change every few seconds.
"What we tried to do was strike the proper balance between the needs of businesses to get information out and the public need to preserve aesthetics and public safety on some very busy roadways," he said.
On a recent day, the $85,000 LED sign in front of the Thalia Lynn Baptist Church on Virginia Beach Boulevard, one of the city's biggest and most elaborate, flashed "What's Love Got to Do With It?" in green letters over a background of pink and red hearts. A few seconds later, a bird with a pink heart in its beak flapped its wings as puffy clouds whizzed by.
On the other end of the spectrum is the LED sign requested by Nimmo United Methodist Church. The sign would display two rows of text 5-1/2 inches tall or one row 12 inches tall, said Gregory Reinhart, who heads the church's administrative board. The message would change once a day, he said, to advertise things such as potlucks and fundraisers.
"We are looking to grow and expand our church," he said. "We are looking to get our message out that we are here."
Nimmo United, built in 1791, is facing a separate hurdle because it's in a historic district. LED signs would be banned in the city's 14 historic districts under the current proposal.
Sign company owners and businesses will be closely watching how the City Council signals its intentions.
"It's a shame if they pass a restrictive ordinance," Wallace said. "It's such a great medium. I don't think you can stop it."
Aaron Applegate, (757) 222-5122, aaron.applegate@pilotonline.com

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I don't get it
By default, they are allowed. You don't like them? Pass a zoning law.
It seems incredibly simple to me.
Regulating Signs??
My God!!
Only in Virginia Beach!
Where every council meeting is a parade..and every vote a cha-ching in the pockets of someone in favor!
*Sigh* Strip mall upon strip mall..with the occasional "Jesus Saves" signs...followed by "luxurious townhome" developments and all that wonderful traffic on 264/64...replete with educational cuts and students in 25 year old huts!
"His comments got my attention," Mayor Will Sessoms said.
Amazing. Why dont't the comments of the citizens you were elected to support get your attention?
Tax revenue and landscaping = 0 business
So let me get this straight. The city wants to regulated businesses even more who what to advertize to bring in more business; therefore, more TAX REVENUE to the city. We have already required landscaping to the extent that you cannot see businesses from the road. The existing signs are gopher height and cannot be bigger than a 3x5 note card. Hell the illegal signs they put up in the median are bigger and more visible then the legal signs. A light in the forest of trees would be nice. The city wants tax revenue, more business make business visible to help people find them. Mayor and city council as Regan Stated “Tear down the walls hiding our businesses” There has got to be a way to do this with good taste. If you love trees and landscaping go find a forest to play in. You want a business go to the city.
these lighted signs should
these lighted signs should ABSOLUTELY be regulated. How many of you have drived down to the beach at night only to be literally blinded by the LED sign at the convention center. I lived on 20th and parks when that sign was put up and it actually hurt my eyes everynight on the way home from work. I had to block the light in order to be able to see where i was driving. Some of them are not so bad, like tho one at Green Run High school which is orange lettering on a black background, or even the one at the Roving Auto on Rosemon Rd. that is in full color and has pictures on it. I think the brightness of the signs should definitly be regulate. But other than that, they are fine.
cut the lights, bring back good ole fashioned signs
Lights are obnoxious. The old fashioned signs used to be part of the beachy character of the area. Plus it allowed patrons to actually locate shops who are hard to find because they aren't allowed to post up a sign. I like character, but let's leave the lights to Vegas shall we.
No LED Signs!!
The City of Virginia Beach banned signs many years ago that cluttered our streetsides and open areas near major highways and neighborhoods. Many businesses pled that they needed these signs for business, well guess what ? The signs went bye bye and the businesses are still as usual! The thought of basically reversing something that has proven itself to be non essential to businesses and that the people wanted to "beautify our city for tourism" is no other than stupid!! The trend is LED and electronic signs! many get hung up there!! The issue is we do not want to clutter our streetsides again nor do we want to give in to the new generation of electronic clutter!! IE "Welcome to Virginia Beach, The city of LED sign essential businesses advertisements!! Come on get real!" Everyone who is going to patronize a business will irregardless if they have a LED sign dancing out front of their business or not!! THE BUSINESS WILL SPEAK FOR ITSELF! and so will Virginia Beach, I just hope they look at what they are deciding on instead of who is presenting the request as was not done in the case of WAVE CHURCH!! Shame on City Council, They opened a bag of worms with that one!
Ban?
I thought the city passed a law that limited signs. There were a few large bill boards that were granted a grandfather clause, but no new business signs nor were any to be higher than (I believe it was 12 feet.)
The Road info/direction and amber alert are not business related and therefore do not fall into this catagory.
Why not?
If LED signs really are a distraction to driving, then they ALL ought to be banned - even the government ones. If government is allowed to use this technology, then so should private businesses.
As to the 'tackiness' factor, tacky is in the eye of the beholder. I find LED signs a lot less tacky than those old signs that have to have the letters swapped out one at a time. Nobody is suggesting turning VB into Vegas-lite. It seems to me that reasonable regulation of these signs can benefit businesses and government, which after all, depends on tax revenue from businesses to exist.
Stop the distractions
Yes, we need to stop the distractions. Especially the Amber Alerts, the traffic updates, and other messages.
If the signs are a distraction, then ALL of them should be banned, including government signs. Or are we on our way to a state controlled media?