The Virginian-Pilot
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As Hampton Roads' leaders try to fend off plans to move a Norfolk-based aircraft carrier to Mayport, Fla., a top naval officer said the Florida base also has the upper hand to get another prize that Norfolk hoped to share.
Mayport Naval Station "is the primary site we're looking at" for the East Coast homeport of the new littoral combat ships, Adm. Gary Roughead, the chief of naval operations, told a congressional panel.
The vessels, built to operate in shallow coastal waters, can be used for surveillance, mine warfare, and hunting submarines. The Navy is receiving 55 of the ships - 32 to be based on the East Coast and 23 on the West Coast.
The Navy recently sent Congress a strategic plan for homeporting the ships.
Mayport would be the primary location, Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek would be secondary and Norfolk Naval Station would be the third location.
When asked for more details about the plan's recommendation for Hampton Roads on Thursday, the Navy did not provide an immediate response.
Roughead told the military construction subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee on Wednesday that Mayport is getting top consideration because the littoral combat ships will replace frigates being phased out there.
U.S. Rep. Ander Crenshaw, a Republican whose district includes Mayport, predicts the base will get 17 of the new ships by 2020 and 15 more later.
Frank Roberts, director of the Hampton Roads Military and Federal Facilities Alliance, said his group expected some of the ships would be based here.
But U.S. Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., said keeping the new ships at the Florida base is a good idea because it bolsters arguments that the Navy shouldn't spend money refurbishing Mayport to be a nuclear carrier port.
"The littoral combat ships can be maintained using Mayport's existing infrastructure," Webb said in an e-mail.
In his written testimony to the subcommittee, Roughead restated the Navy's desire to relocate a carrier to Florida because a catastrophic event in the Hampton Roads area, such as a hurricane or terrorist attack, could "severely limit East Coast carrier operations, even if the ships themselves are not affected."
Hampton Roads officials have been critical of the Navy for failing to produce concrete analysis that backs up their concerns about safety and security. They argue that, with limited defense dollars, other needs should get higher priority than spending $500 million or more to establish a new nuclear carrier base.
Homeporting the new ships and gaining a nuclear-powered carrier would revive Mayport, a Navy facility that has been downsizing.
The Jacksonville-area base had homeported aircraft carriers since 1952 but lost its last carrier when the conventionally powered John F. Kennedy was decommissioned in 2007. The remaining frigates at the base also are scheduled to be decommissioned.
Bill Bartel, (757) 446-2398, bill.bartel@pilotonline.com

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Interstate 164
To further outline my proposal for Interstate 164 --
The Western Freeway is already VA-164 between I-664 and the US-58 MLK Freeway. The Western Freeway would keep the same number but become I-164, and the I-164 designation would flow over the semi-directional Pinners Point ramps to the Midtown Tunnel approach road, and the I-164 designation would continue through the Midtown Tunnel to the Brambleton Avenue / Hampton Boulevard interchange, at which point the I-164 designation would end. A parallel Midtown Tunnel tube would be built, and the tunnel complex would have one 2-lane tube for each direction of traffic.
This would be in agreement for the federal standards for the numbering of an Interstate highway spur -- with 3 digits, the first digit an odd number, and the base 2 digits that of the main Interstate route. Normally an Interstate spur route connects directly to the main route, as in how I-564 connects to I-64, but there are a few cases in the nation where an Interstate spur route connects to another 3-digit Interstate route (such as I-370 to I-270 in MD).
I-164 would be a spur from I-664 to downtown Norfolk.
Pearl Harbor Canard
<<< 2-Puting all your assets in one place is stratigically suicide. What if all the carriers were in Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941. >>>
That's the point. None of them were at Pearl Harbor or within 200 miles of there !!
On 7 Dec 1941, all 4 carriers in the Pacific theater were deployed at sea, those being Enterprise, Yorktown, Lexington and Saratoga.
here we go again
Here we go again. Every time something comes up about the navy moving ships, all ya'll can do is bring up the traffic the military causes around here and how we could have another Pearl Harber.
As a taxi driver who is on the road daily and who spends more time stuck in the traffic around here than any of you do, moving a carrier to Mayport is not going to improve it around here!Yes, when the ships are out it's a LITTLE bit better, but it still sucks because everyone around here has a ME ME attitude and thinks they are the best driver in the world and shouldn't have to share the road with the rest of us. Maybe if ya'll took cabs or buses or this precious light rail when it opens, the traffic problems would ease up. How many of you get mad for getting a ticket for being alone in the car in the HOV lanes during HOV only hours??? HMMMM?
And as a taxi driver who only works the naval base in Norfolk, I can tell you that in the 21 years I've lived here, out of the 5 carriers we have here, I've only seen no more than 4 of them at the piers on the base ONCE, and that was just a few months back! There is always one in Newport News at the yards (at least1), there is sometimes one at the ya
here we go again
Here we go again. Every time something comes up about the navy moving ships, all ya'll can do is bring up the traffic the military causes around here and how we could have another Pearl Harber.
As a taxi driver who is on the road daily and who spends more time stuck in the traffic around here than any of you do, moving a carrier to Mayport is not going to improve it around here!Yes, when the ships are out it's a LITTLE bit better, but it still sucks because everyone around here has a ME ME attitude and thinks they are the best driver in the world and shouldn't have to share the road with the rest of us. Maybe if ya'll took cabs or buses or this precious light rail when it opens, the traffic problems would ease up. How many of you get mad for getting a ticket for being alone in the car in the HOV lanes during HOV only hours??? HMMMM?
And as a taxi driver who only works the naval base in Norfolk, I can tell you that in the 21 years I've lived here, out of the 5 carriers we have here, I've only seen no more than 4 of them at the piers on the base ONCE, and that was just a few months back! There is always one in Newport News at the yards (at least1), there is sometimes one at the ya
It is rather hard to fathom
It is rather hard to fathom that there are so many selfish people in the Tidewater area who do not want to spread the wealth around and share the hope and change vision of our dear, great, beloved and benevolent president. I did not realize that so many selfish and petty people lived here. Tisk, tisk. Who are we to dare suggest that Mayport should not have its fair share of the government largess that comes with an aircraft carrier?
OKKIDDER
Good comment, thanks! I am retired Navy and feel the same, word for word.
take it all
Send it all to FL. Everything. Then maybe we could get around on our streets once again!
points to concider
1-Political indiscesion and oversight has taken command out of the war fighters and put it in the hands of lawyers. Who is better to run a war.
2-Puting all your assets in one place is stratigically suicide. What if all the carriers were in Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.
3-The Hampton Roads area has never worked with the military commands. They are only interested in money.
The light rail stopped at Sentera complex instead of going throug ODU and starting at NOB. Va Beach incroachment on Oceana. The roads and interstates are not designed for the manning of the installations. There is no cohesion between military and local law enforcement in patroling these areas. There are no incentives for the military to even stay here. The military is blamed for problems when things get hot to take the heat off of the local government. When a local busness does not get a military contract it is the militaries fault. If someone dumped on you would you stay?
carriers
How much fuel do nuclear powered carriers burn? Let's train in the Caribbean under nice warm calm conditions instead of a large ocean with big scary waves. Let's see, a carrier can push 35 knots and be in Florida overnight without breaking a sweat and the jets in an hour. Norfolk has the military presence to protect a large navy, does Florida? Large ships leave port to skirt hurricanes and ride them out, Florida is also a Hurricane target zone not Hampton Roads.
QUALITY OF LIFE IS BETTER IN MAYPORT
The Quality of life is better in Mayport! Taxes are lower. They have a Homestead Exemption (50K) off taxes for owning a home. Traffic is lower. And the people down there do not put out signs with "Sailors stay off my grass". Virginians are arrogant, expect all taxpayers money, expect all ships. I hope 3/4 of the Navy moves down there and maybe Virginians will respect Sailors as they should have all along, and just expect their money and taxes.