The Virginian-Pilot
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RICHMOND
The governor and his senior staff took a pay cut. State employees are facing layoffs and furloughs. But there's one group of people in Richmond whose salaries don't appear to be in danger: state legislators.
While there's been some informal discussion of reducing salaries for General Assembly members, several legislators said they don't expect that to make it into the final budget, which could be approved as early as this weekend.
Currently, state senators earn $18,000 and House members earn $17,640. They receive additional money, called a per diem, for meals and lodging as well as money to cover their office expenses.
Neither chamber has had a pay increase in about two decades, so asking legislators to take a pay cut is a thorny issue.
Anything other than a deep reduction would be more of a symbolic gesture than a substantial savings.
The 5 percent pay cut that Gov. Bob McDonnell and his senior staff took in response to the ongoing economic downturn is expected to save roughly $135,000. For legislators, a $1,000 pay cut - about 5.5 percent of their salaries - would generate $140,000 annually.
Both sums are minimal compared to the $4.2 billion shortfall in Virginia's two-year budget.
Still, said Sen. Jeff McWaters, a Virginia Beach Republican, a pay cut would send "an important signal."
"Americans are without jobs," said McWaters, one of the wealthiest members of the legislature. "Their pay is being frozen and sometimes reduced. We should feel the exact same thing."
Sen. Ralph Northam, D-Norfolk, has a different view.
The two months legislators spend in Richmond each winter keeps them away from their families and cuts into their earnings, he explained.
"The salary and per diem is reasonable," Northam said. "I don't see any need to cut it further."
Senate Majority Leader Richard Saslaw, D-Fairfax, said he is willing to take a pay cut, but some legislators might not be able to afford one.
McDonnell has proposed up to 10 furlough days for state workers to save nearly $181 million. The Senate plan includes up to 6 unpaid days that would save about $108 million, while the House budget has none.
McDonnell also recommended that legislators forgo the $200 per day they receive for meetings attended when the General Assembly isn't in session.
During the legislative session, the per diems are $135 in the House and $169 in the Senate to cover meal and lodging expenses. House officials have been critical of their Senate counterparts for not cutting their figure; so too has the fiscal conservative group Americans for Prosperity.
When compared to other states, Virginia lawmakers aren't at the top or bottom of the legislative pay scale. Compensation models differ, but judged on an annual basis, California ranks first at $95,291 and New Hampshire last, at $200 for a two-year term, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
California's legislature is considered full time, while Virginia's and New Hampshire's are part time.
And compared to Virginia's state workers, lawmakers rank near the bottom - the minimum salary on the state pay scale is $15,371.
"If these legislators worked on an hourly basis, they'd get paid a whole lot more. The governor, too," said Sara R. Wilson of the Department of Human Resource Management. "People would be shocked at how little they get paid for how many hours they work."
Julian Walker, (804) 697-1564, julian.walker@pilotonline.com

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Follow the money
Principals, Sheriffs, Judges, etc., making 150 - 200k. THAT is where the gov should take budget cuts. Chop 20% from the budgets in those areas, penalize city governments that don't get rid of these excessive salaries and perks. And don't tell me about the "Whoa is me" lament about how hard their job is. Ask folks on the street about what hard jobs are. I think some of the posters here are not focusing on the large dollars...don't get sidetracked. Take out the high earners, bring them back to earth and then we will start seeing savings.
Cut auto and travel expenses for the gov't., take strong steps, look at cities/states that have cut expenses and follow their actions. There is just too much politicking and too little substantive action. We can't vote them out...they are like penguins, one down and thousands behind them.
Reality check
People say the legislators should take a paycut. I say that in order to be knowledgeable about the real world, they should forego their outside work, and live on the legislative salary only. Then they might realize what their constituents are going through.
Asking Legislators..
..to take a pay cut is a thorny issue".
Well, genius, thanks for that update!
The combined savings from the Gov. and staff and legislators equals a total of $275,000 dollars! There's at least some PreK schools or meals that could be given with that money!
"Sen. Ralph Northam, D-Norfolk,
The two months legislators spend in Richmond each winter keeps them away from their families and cuts into their earnings, he explained"
Equal to "It's the economy stupid" "Its "Public Service"!
Did the Senator go to school in Norfolk? I guess the SOL's in those days didn't teach what "public" and "service" means! If public service demands time away from your family and it's rough on you?..QUIT!
Even $135 per diem
is too much. $4050 a month to rent and eat? excuse me, but that is excessive. Time for them to stay in some dorm rooms or school hotels instead of stealing from us.
They really are full of themselves, aren't they.
He can always quit
"Sen. Ralph Northam, D-Norfolk, has a different view.
The two months legislators spend in Richmond each winter keeps them away from their families and cuts into their earnings, he explained."
No one says he has to be a State Senator - he can always stay home and make his money.....in fact, his district should be sure he doesn't get voted in next time so he can stay home with his family and make his almighty dollar.
we need to cut their pay
or better yet, just get rid of them and put people in there who will help fix problems and not create them! Sure am glad that at least I have my weapons, at least for now....lol.
I think this just about...
says it all:
quote= Still, said Sen. Jeff McWaters, a Virginia Beach Republican, a pay cut would send "an important signal."
"Americans are without jobs," said McWaters, one of the wealthiest members of the legislature. "Their pay is being frozen and sometimes reduced. We should feel the exact same thing."
Sen. Ralph Northam, D-Norfolk, has a different view.
The two months legislators spend in Richmond each winter keeps them away from their families and cuts into their earnings, he explained.
"The salary and per diem is reasonable," Northam said. "I don't see any need to cut it further." =quote
The Democrat isn't going to sacrifice for the people's sake, but the Republican has no problem with it.
Open your eyes
These fat cat dems nor republican don't care anyting about us. They took those positions strictly for the power and benefits. If the pay and benefits were so bad they wouldn't run for office
No need to complain !!!
We are the idiots that keep putting them in office. If you don't agree with what they are doing, vote them out of office and put someone in there that will do what the people want.
We complain now but when election time comes around we hold the purse strings. Just don't vote for them even if you have to write in someones name on the ballot.
This issue starts at the top
This issue starts at the top and rolls down. It is not right to layoff/furlough the workers at the bottom of the ladder and the upper level staff remain unaffected. The Governor is commended for taking a pay cut, now the ball should roll down hill to include Senators, Delgates, department heads, upper level supervisors, and so on.