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McDonnell rescinds state police prayer policy

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To the delight of some faith groups and the dismay of other activists, a Virginia State Police directive that instructed chaplains to deliver nonsectarian public prayers when representing the law enforcement agency was rescinded Wednesday at the behest of Gov. Bob McDonnell.

That reversal enables troopers who serve as chaplains - a volunteer aspect of their job - to deliver faith-specific prayers at government-sanctioned public events.

Under the old policy, chaplains were instructed to offer nonsectarian blessings when representing the state at public functions. Some said the policy prevented them from offering prayers that mentioned Jesus Christ. Those restrictions did not apply to private affairs.

The change frees them to "pray according to the dictates of their own conscience, and in accordance with their faith traditions," McDonnell spokesman Tucker Martin wrote in an e-mail.

McDonnell, a Roman Catholic, "does not believe the state should tell chaplains of any faith how to pray," added Martin, who characterized the shift as something that promotes religious freedom.

Social conservatives hailed the directive as a blow for the "religious liberty rights of state police chaplains" which ensures they "can remain true to their faith" in public forums.

The old way represented "an act of discrimination" by former Gov. Timothy M. Kaine's administration, added Victoria Cobb, president of T he Family Foundation of Virginia. Others deemed it an attack on Christianity.

When the previous policy took effect in 2008, state police Superintendent Col. W. Steven Flaherty cited a federal court decision upholding the constitutionality of a government body requiring nonsectarian prayers at official forums. In protest, six of the 17 state police chaplains resigned the religious portion of their duties.

The federal court decision came in a lawsuit brought by Fredericksburg City Councilman Hashmel C. Turner Jr., an ordained minister who objected to a council rule that prayers opening council meetings be free of specific faith references. Turner has said that his legal battle was about preserving his ability to pray "in the name of Jesus."

Kaine supported the position taken by Flaherty, who has been reappointed to his post, the McDonnell administration announced Wednesday. Like McDonnell, Kaine is Roman Catholic.

While some took offense when it was adopted, several legal scholars, including McDonnell, agreed that it was legal.

And though administration officials insist the same is true of this change, at least one legal mind has doubts.

Federal courts have "already ruled basically that what the governor is authorizing is unconstitutional," University of Richmond law professor Carl Tobias said. "What we're going to have is a piece of the litigation and the plaintiffs will win and they'll get attorneys fees as well. I just don't understand why the governor is going to invite this type of litigation, which is going to be very divisive and expensive."

And at least two groups believe that may happen soon.

"The next time a Virginia police officer opens a police-sponsored educational or community event with a sectarian prayer, he or she will be directly violating clearly established law," said Kent Willis, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia. "Unless police officers understand that, they will almost certainly be inviting a lawsuit in the near future."

Likewise, the Rev. Barry W. Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State predicts the change "may very likely spark lawsuits that could cost the taxpayers lots of money. If that happens, McDonnell will be the man to blame."

McDonnell officials insist that the current decision simply restores the rules state police chaplains operated under since the program was established in 1979.

And Martin said Virginia's new rule "puts state police chaplains in the same position as those in the United States military."

However, a Defense Department spokeswoman said that when military chaplains participate in command-sponsored events they are expected to balance their faith with the beliefs of those in attendance, "such that the event is as inclusive as possible."

Alexandria Democratic Del. David Englin, an Air Force veteran, worries that won't happen under McDonnell's rule.

The governor "has chosen a policy that allows agents of the government to foist their religious beliefs on others, satisfying the religious right while turning his back on the diversity and pluralism that has made our country great," said Englin, who is Jewish.

Wednesday's decision was welcomed by Del. Bill Carrico, who in the past tried unsuccessfully to pass legislation to allow chaplains to pray as they see fit.

The move protects "the rights of all to freely worship and express their faith openly," said Carrico, a Grayson County Republican and retired state trooper.

Also elated was trooper Rex Carter of southwest Virginia, one of the chaplains who resigned his religious role after the old policy was implemented.

"I'm very, very excited... we can put everything behind us and move forward," said Carter, who is exploring his options about resuming his chaplain duties.

Julian Walker, (804) 697-1564, julian.walker@pilotonline.com

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Generic prayer

An appropriate prayer by any member of the governmental population would one supposedly given by one of our astronauts (edited for public consumption)
"Oh Lord, don't let me (mess) up! Amen.

freedom

Freedom to pray isn't any less important than any other form of protected speech.

Personally I think it's stupid to spend taxpayer money on clergymen (clergypeople?) and then tell them they can't pray. What a bunch of geniuses we have looking out for us. lol

I'll pray for all you folks that believe the only freedoms that are important are the freedoms you approve of. Hypocites...

The state is not paying the trooper to be clergymen

that is a voluntary part of their job as policemen.

However, the freedom to pray is not at risk.

You can pray all you want anywhere you want.

The question is can you lead a sectarian prayer at a government function as a government official to an essentially captive audience?

And why should we open a government function with a prayer in the first place?

Unitarians are Christians but they do not believe that Jesus is the son of God. Are their beliefs any less important than the freedom of the chaplain?

Government sponsored religious ceremonies are generally not a very good idea.

Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom

Be it enacted by General Assembly that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of Religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge or affect their civil capacities. And though we well know that this Assembly elected by the people for the ordinary purposes of Legislation only, have no power to restrain the acts of succeeding Assemblies constituted with powers equal to our own, and that therefore to declare this act irrevocable would be of no effect in law; yet we are free to declare, and do declare that the rights hereby asserted, are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right.

--Thomas Jefferson

jefferson?

Yeah, Jefferson also believed in like-minded individuals gathering together to make their voices heard by government. But apparently that's also an antiquated concept...

Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson wrote "The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom"

Here is the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Statute_for_Religious_Freedom

religion 101

1. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are called "Abrahamic faiths" since they all worship the same God of Abraham. "Allah" is the Arabic word for God, just as "Dio" is the Italian word, and so on in every language. Jesus, Mary, Moses, Noah, and many other people mentioned in the Bible are also mentioned the the Koran.

2. The Old Testament was written primarily in Hebrew, Aramaic, and other Semitic languages.

3. The New Testament was written in Greek.

4. In 313 AD Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan which made Christianity the official religion of the Romann Empire. Some scholars argue that Christianiy is what brought down the Roman Empire.

5. Roman Catholicism, Lutheranism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Methodists, Baptists, Calvinists, Presbytarianism, etc. are all SECTS or divisions of Christianity.

6. Jesus was born into a Jewish or Hebrew family and looked Middle Eastern having olive skin. He was not pasty white nor was he black. The original Jews back then were not mixed with Europeans like the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe or the American Jews descended from them. Jews back then looked very Middle Eastern and could not be distinguished from other Middle Eastern peopl

One Major Difference.

You said " Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are called "Abrahamic faiths" since they all worship the same God of Abraham. "Allah" is the Arabic word for God, just as "Dio" is the Italian word..."

Allah may be the word for God in Arabic, but who they call god is not the same one I call God. I can firmly say that we all do NOT worship the same God of Abraham. My God does not tell me to go out and kill all the infidels. My God does not stone a woman for showing her face. My God is compassionate beyond belief, and forgiving of all the sins and mistakes we make (as long as we're trying not to make them, and ask for forgiveness). Yes, He has wiped out cities, etc., but only really degenerate and arrogant and god-less towns (Sodom). But He is slow to anger, and quick to forgive... He is love. And He wants to give us every chance to come to Him.

No, I would venture to say that my God is definitely not the same god as Allah.

Yes, He has wiped out

Yes, He has wiped out cities, etc., but only really degenerate and arrogant and god-less towns (Sodom).

I guess it's okay to wipe out cities so long as they're full of godless people. That makes sense.

By the way, your God is the same God as Allah. Read the Old Testament sometime.

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