The Virginian-Pilot
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VIRGINIA BEACH
Dolores Snowden handed over $7, sat down in front of a computer monitor and chose a game to play.
She clicked a button, and slot machine-style icons - dollar signs, pictures of animals and the ubiquitous BAR symbol - scrolled down the screen. She was in a Virginia Beach strip mall at a place called Cyber Center.
After a few plays, she was up $3.65. Was she gambling?
"No, I'm playing the Internet," said Snowden, a retired Norfolk city worker. "It's just fun. Keeps me from getting Alzheimer's."
Internet gaming businesses are popping up across South Hampton Roads. About 15 have opened in Virginia Beach and Chesapeake, and business licenses for at least a dozen more have been issued, according to records from the cities' commissioners of revenue. The businesses are migrating north from North Carolina after that state's legislature this summer banned them, effective in December. About half of the local licensees are from North Carolina, records show.
The businesses, which fall in a legally murky area of Virginia law, are drawing the attention of law enforcement officials. Gambling is illegal in Virginia, and the debate over Internet gaming centers on what constitutes gambling.
"We're working it to see if there are any violations," incoming Beach Police Chief Jim Cervera said.
The games work like this: A player gives the business money to buy Internet time. That time also has a point or credit value for playing the games. For example, at two businesses visited this week, $5 bought 500 points. The points are used to play games such as "Lot-o-Cash," "Super Lucky Duck," and "Burnin' Hot."
Players can buy more points or cash out when the credit expires. Those who wind up with more points than they started with can make money.
Internet gaming cafes have found some supporters. Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli said in a recent advisory opinion that they're legal. Beach Sheriff Ken Stolle wants to accept donations from the businesses to his charity for disabled hunters, but said he's waiting for a clear legal ruling before working with Internet gamers.
"If I weren't the sheriff, I would accept these charitable donations and not think twice about it," he said, likening the businesses to bingo, which is legal in Virginia. "I don't want the public to feel I sanction the activity when it's not my call."
Ultimately, the final decision on Internet gaming will likely rest with local police, prosecutors and judges.
"I've been consulting with the police department for a couple weeks," Virginia Beach Commonwealth's Attorney Harvey Bryant said. "Just like anything else, we have to wait for them to bring us a case before we charge."
Owners of Internet cafes argue the games are legal because they are actually a sweepstakes, like those offered by fast food restaurants or grocery stores.
"Illusion is everything. The illusion of gambling - that's what makes them fun," said Doug Harris, owner of Cyber Center. "If this was a gambling den, I'd be full of people. Real gamblers know this isn't gambling."
He pointed across the smoky room. Five middle-age women and one man sat staring at computer monitors on Tuesday afternoon.
The main difference between sweepstakes and gambling is that the outcome of sweepstakes is predetermined, business owners said. Aside from entering more often, there's nothing a player can do to improve their odds of winning.
"It's just like the lottery is predetermined, or a sweepstakes at McDonald's or Hardee's," said Richard Chapman, who has business licenses to open five Internet gaming cafes in Virginia Beach and Chesapeake. Chapman helps run similar businesses in North Carolina. "It's a glorified adult Chuck E. Cheese, that's about what it is."
Some lawmakers and officials aren't so sure. And this is where the legal nuances get thick.
To show they're legal, business owners point to a law passed by the General Assembly this summer.
The bill, sponsored by Del. Clay Athey, R-Front Royal, was designed to crack down on slot-machine-style games that had gained popularity at truck stops in western Virginia, Athey said. The bill, HB1010, included a section explaining that the intent was not to ban sweepstakes programs, which the bill defines in detail.
It's this definition that Internet gamers are following to create their businesses.
"They're trying to fit whatever game they have into that criteria," Athey said. "Never underestimate creativity of individuals."
But he said another part of the law might prohibit Internet gaming. It's the section that expands the definition of illegal gambling to include games where a player has the "opportunity to win additional points or other measurable units that are redeemable by the purchaser for money at the location where the product was purchased."
Athey said his bill was meant to prohibit people from making wagers and having the chance to win money at the same location.
"At McDonald's, you pull off a tab and get a free drink. We weren't trying to get at that," he said. "We wanted to make sure you couldn't trade something for cash money. For laymen, what distinguishes gambling is you wager money and get money back."
Attorney General Cuccinelli's advisory opinion followed different legal reasoning. He said the games are legal because there is a way to enter them for free. In Virginia, illegal gambling requires "consideration" or something of value dependent on the result of a game.
"As long as you get an entry into a sweepstakes without a requirement of purchase, it is not gambling," wrote Brian Gottstein, Cuccinelli's spokesman, in an e-mail. "So, for example, you buy a cheeseburger from McDonald's and you get a "Monopoly" game piece - but you can also do the same without purchase by writing to McDonald's or going to their website."
Internet gaming owners said players can enter their sweepstakes for free by mail. Harris, the owner, of Cyber Center, has a different method.
"There you go," he said, throwing down a white plastic card. It came with 100 credits, the equivalent of $1. He offers it to first-time players who ask.
Bryant said the McDonald's analogy might not make sense because, unlike the Internet gaming cafes, the restaurant's primary purpose isn't to run a sweepstakes.
"I have yet to hear someone say, 'Give me 100 Cokes,' and then leave the Cokes on the counter to go play the game," he said.
He cautioned that laws on gambling can be hard to interpret.
"It'll be difficult to make a blanket statement that they're illegal or okay," he said. "Each operation will have to be individually evaluated."
Aaron Applegate, (757) 222-5122. aaron.applegate@pilotonline.com

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I think it is bad to have these period. It is gambling and I think all of it should be shut down. There are to many people who have a gambling addiction just like drugs alcohol and cigarettes. It's a no brainer here. If these places weren't there for people to go to then people wouldn't be doing it. They are popping up everywhere and these businesses are making a killing. People are desperate to fix their financial hardship that they have and are thinking this would be a easy way to win money. I have seen one in Virgina Beach called Bayside Business Center. Went in thinking I could fax something and was told their fax was broke and I was asked do I want to play. I personally would like to see something pass and all the people go to jail for bringing corruption to our cities. Colonial Downs needs to be shut down too. I see no difference in that either. I say if you like to gamble move the heck out of Virginia and move to a state where they have legalized these places. It's just taking state and tax money away from our future here.
According to the article it is illegal because you win money
A section of the law says it is illegal to receive back money. How long will these places last if they cannot return cash.
Oh, please.
It is gambling - pure and simple.
Legalize gambling statewide. That way, payback amounts can be set and controlled. For example, Vegas and AC have at least a 75% payback programmed into slot machines (and most are in the upper 80 to lower 90 percentile range). In other words, you get a little bang for your buck. You're probably not going to get rich, but you may have a few hours of entertainment. Conversely, these fly-by-night gambling parlors have no state controls so who knows what the payback amount is? 40%? 30%?
Monopolists will always supporess competition
The government has a legal monopoly on gambling, called the Lottery.
They're not really opposed to gambling, they're just opposed to you losing to someone else.
Delaware Gambling
I remember when Dover Downs in Delaware started with just video poker years back. It has steadily grown to where DE's Casino's now include live table games. I love it, (and remember, DE has no state taxes). They have seriously cut into Atlantic City's action. Virginia should study how Delaware regulates gaming and allow a Casino in VB, Richmond and Northern Virginia. Despite Pat Ronertson's camp trying to kill the Lottery years back, imagine where VA's education budget would be without it. Three Casino's in the state would help pay for our neglected roads...just saying!
Legalize the danged casinos!
If they were such a curse, the states that have them would shut them down.
Instead, MORE states are opening them. We will soon be surrounded by them.
Put one at Waterside. Put a dock and riverboat at Strawberry Banks. And when Oceana eventually closes, turn it into a world class resort complete with airstrip, hotels, amusement park, and casinos.
DEAL!
I agree but
If NAS Oceana closes a good 25% of VA Beach income will be lost. Casinos are hurting financially presently laying off people left and right. You can buy real estate in Las Vegas presently for 40% less than 5 years ago.
So Casinos are good in good times but a NAS is good all the time.
bible belt
A bible belt state like Virginia will never allow this. The man behind the curtain, Pat Robertson, will weigh in on this matter. He has state legislators working for him at CBN. The current governor is an alumnus of Regent University. He is a big contributor to the Virginia Republicans, who currently control the state Senate and House of Delegates. Since he has many state Senators and Delegates under his employment, he has a tremendous amount of influence when it comes to crafting legislation to support his agenda. The lottery and church bingo are the only forms of gambing that will be permited. Having some cool and swanky casinos here would be out of place anyway. You can't put lipstick on a pig. Words like "cool" and "swanky" should never be in the same sentence as Virginia. Fortunately the whole nation is not like this and the option is there for all of us to relocate to a state that is more to our liking and leave a state like this to the bible belt crowd.
I want to live in a place that believes in freedom and not religious fascism.
Cucci is not a neocon puppet i swear..
Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli says its alright, he must have dealt Pat in on a cut of the action.
PTL
Gambling is not a panacea, and about the last thing we need now.
“The costs of problem and pathological gambling are comparable to the value of the lost output of an additional recession in the economy every four years.”
"In the ... South, where casinos primarily attract a local clientele, gambling causes a net loss to the community. Not only do out-of-state casino operators remove gambling dollars from the local economy, but local employers and taxpayers must foot the bill of increased crime, personal bankruptcy, domestic violence, lost workdays, child abuse and other social costs from problem gamblers."
Source: http://news.illinois.edu/news/04/0308grinols.html
"Today, there are more children experiencing adverse symptoms from gambling than from drugs... and the problem is growing."
"Not counting the cost of prosecution, restitution, or other related costs, incarceration and supervision costs alone for problem gambler criminal incidents could cost Florida residents $6,080,000,000."
Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gamble/procon/horn.html
"Within a year of the casinos' opening, the number of pawnshops in Biloxi doubled. Over the next four years, the number doubled again."
Source: http://www.libraryin