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Privatizing Virginia's liquor stores will reap more money for the state, increase competition and cut prices, Gov. Bob McDonnell said Monday at a forum at Old Dominion University.
Plus, he said, it won't lead to more drunken driving or binge drinking. "If it was any different, I would not be promoting this at all," McDonnell said.
He didn't get much support - or opposition - from the crowd of roughly 300.
Of nearly 20 speakers, two commented on liquor stores - one in favor of McDonnell's stance, one against.
The meeting, at Webb University Center, was designed to draw ideas from residents on ways to streamline government operations. But for many, it was a chance to lobby the leader of the state on the causes closest to their hearts.
Speakers urged him to abandon his support for offshore drilling in the wake of the BP oil spill (McDonnell said he's still for it) and replace the members of the state parole board.
They also sought his intervention to block an abortion clinic in Virginia Beach and a mental health crisis center in Norfolk.
In a 25-minute overview, the Republican governor laid out the goals of his Commission on Government Reform and Restructuring, including reducing costs, performing tasks more efficiently and increasing transparency.
"I owe it to you as the state's CEO to find ways to spend that money better," he said.
McDonnell focused on his plan to disband the state's 76-year-old monopoly on liquor stores and, instead, sell licenses to private stores to market liquor.
He predicted the state would not lose money in the switch - a contention that some Democrats reject. Profits and taxes from alcohol sales generated more than $322 million for Virginia in fiscal year 2009, according to the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control.
Best of all, McDonnell said, the one-time revenue from license sales would generate $300 million to $500 million for roads projects. "It's a creative way to get more money for transportation," he said.
Virginia now has 332 state-run liquor stores. That, McDonnell said, comes out to 0.6 per 10,000 people, much less than the 3.2 national average.
Even if the number of stores rose to 800, Virginia would remain significantly below the national average, he said. "No one wants to have liquor stores on every corner."
The session was the second of eight town-hall-style meetings that McDonnell has scheduled across the state this month to promote his plans for privatization and get feedback.
It might take the reform panel a few years to finish its work, McDonnell said Monday. But he has said he will issue a final proposal on liquor sales later this year and will then call a special session of the General Assembly to take it up.
Ellis James, an activist in Norfolk, spoke in opposition to McDonnell's ideas on liquor. "I don't think it's a bad thing to have a low number of ABC stores and outlets," James said. "If you have a lot more facilities and stockpiling of alcohol, you're going to have crime go up in the communities."
McDonnell responded: "You might think that would happen, but there is no evidence to suggest that." Studies, he said, have shown no difference in the frequency of binge drinking and drunken driving between states that run liquor stores and those that don't.
James also spoke against privatizing the Virginia Port Authority's terminals. Last year, three companies made offers to lease or operate them. McDonnell said state officials are evaluating the proposals, but he offered no enthusiasm.
"None of the money on the table is in the ballpark, even if we wanted to do it," he said.
Another speaker, Jim Arab of Virginia Beach, cheered McDonnell on. "I'm all for it," Arab said of McDonnell's plans for the liquor stores. "I'm a firm believer in privatization - limiting the size of government."
Arab suggested that McDonnell also privatize the Department of Motor Vehicles and get rid of car inspections unless new studies prove they increase safety on the roads.

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Tsk Tsk.. Bob McDonnell
Liquor tax = 20%
Wine tax = 4%
Level the playing field and make all alcoholic taxation 10 - 15% range. The wealthy are not going to all of a sudden stop drinking wine. The average man spending $20 on a bottle of whiskey gets taxed the same amount as the well to do spending $100 on a bottle of wine.
Chesabeachgirl said, "Privatizing Virginia's liquor stores will reap more money for the state, increase competition and cut prices, Gov. Bob McDonnell said Monday at a forum at Old Dominion University."
It's a one time increase where in the long run it's LESS tax revenue. Increasing availability won't cut prices considering we have less Liquor stores per 10K people than the national average.
7-11 is at every other corner and they are more expensive on average. Sure.. you are paying for convenience, land cost, building cost, more workers as a company whole, and future expansion. Heck, the labor costs alone would put your theory to rest.
I'm amazed some of you are taking Bob McDonnell's word like it is the Gospel of Jesus. Where's the report factoring the lost revenue at state run stores, scarcity of loans available for businesses, and various other variables.
BTW, didn
Did we all forget?
Didn't Gov. McDonnell campaign on oil leases and state bonds to pay for the roads? Oh, must have slipped our mind due to the nations extreme short term memory and/or attention deficit disorder
Hey, look behind you! It's a Unicorn!
What next? Privitize the police why not? Heck, why not let's see if Blackwater (Xe) will do it with their flawless record.
Sell stores to independent owners, not corporate monopolies!!
Independent owners do much better than state or corporate monopolies!
And get two bangs for our tax dollars!!
1-Sell our liquor stores and desired applicable purchasing agreements to independent owners instead of a state or corporate run business!
2-Make a Virginia Business, state employee and contractors "employment law" (Executive Order) that:
a) requires the use of E-Verify for all new hires
b) requires the use of the IMAGE Program if current employees have not been verified worker eligible
c) not having a "Confirmation" from E-Verify or SSNVS proof of legal status will start with fines of at least $100,000 per illegal and at least 10 years in a prison work camp for "additional" illegal workers after a 30-day chance to comply for new hires resulting from illegals leaving
d) illegals will face a minimum of 10 years in a prison work camp, then deportation
Since most employers and illegals are not willing to go to a prison work camp for 10 years, the law will be effective prior to implementation, just as SB 1070 was when an estimated 100,000 illegals left AZ for a sanctuary state, California!
3-Take those state employees and have them check suspected employ
The benefits and savings ...
The savings to Virginians, our schools, welfare programs, and our state overall are enormous!! It also gives a huge boost because it adds a lot of new patrons which helps businesses grow and hire more workers and gives all of them a level playing field for additional work.
Most of the illegal employment is solved without a lot of taxpayer dollars!!
If this were proposed
If this were proposed federal legislation, we'd at least have the Congressional Budget Office or someone in authority providing a ballpark estimate of real financial impact. No one has yet reported any financial analysis of the proposal. It's not that commenters have the ability to do so. However, pontificating without the benefit of someone's analysis is foolhardy.
In all due respect, how do
In all due respect, how do you know? Have you seen the business case? Has the case been reduced to a present value? What are the income streams to the General Fund before and after the sale? Apparently, you must have based your conclusion on solid facts. Please share them with the rest of us. Thank you in advance.
I bet a big stumbling block
I bet a big stumbling block will be how to handle sales to restaurants.
Will they now have an option to buy from who gives them the best price?
Get the PR, make the case
I have to admit that I am philisophocially predisposed to supporting the shift to the private sector, but I am not convinced that we should do this on just moral or anti government reasons. As one poster said..."I feel the state will make more revenue if ABC stores were privatized. There are too many STATE employees draining our budget." How do you know? We have not seen the analysis, and all we get is verbal PR from the mouth of the Governor. Delegate Oder was on Cathy Lewis's show yesterday and did not have a clue about the details. So why are we getting the PR blitz before the analysis is available? Usually, when this is done, it means the PR is not supported by the analysis. So, before all these promises about how good it will be for us the taxpayers, prove it by releasing the analysis. And if $300-500 M is the best, one time infusion for transportation, why bother? That is the proverbial drop in the bucket and is not a solution to the crisis in funding of transportation.
Hard to read
Great job!. You call for this Privatization of liquor sales study to be made public and " let us decide" but you are vehemently opposed to a voting referendum on the light rail. Excellent work Comrade. The confusion keeps these taxpayer dregs stymied and hopefully we can keep this rabble from expressing more of their opinions about how we use their tax money for private profit ventures.
Actually no, you simply
Actually no, you simply can't read. I am not, as you say, ..."vehemently opposed to a voting referendum on the light rail." My strong preference is for City Council to make this decision, and we have pledged to show them the overwhelming support for light rail that exists in Virginia Beach. If Council decides they want to have a referendum, so be it, and all the work we have done to show the breadth and depth of support for increased mobility in this corridor will still be of value.